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There are a lot of genuine previously hard-working people who end up on the streets, through a divorce or drastic sharp change of circumstances, there but for the grace of God go us all!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Ex-soldiers always get to me, how they can end up like that is tragic!
I mostly give some change or food from Greggs or somewhere if I'm near one, I'm not really sure if it's the best thing to do, but it feels better than seeing them freezing and looking starving.
You're probably right, even worse, it's such a slippery slope!Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Linda Thorne , housing chair said a week ago there were ......7 .....rough sleepers on average in CardiffQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
That's on public record
I have no idea what the point of your link is other than to show there were 17 on the 22 of September
Any drop at this time of year is because the council provides money to get the homeless off the streets as they don't want people stepping over them
It's at least 50 a night , the council are always massaging the figures
Spending lots of money on Christmas:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Bad
Spending lots of money on CCFC:
Not bad
I get it now :thumbup:
Do whatever you canQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I just think people who refuse to help in any way then try to weasel their way out of it are tight fisted
Soldiers are like nurses ....we clap and cheer them when we need them but then let them struggle
No you don'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Spending thousands of pounds at Xmas on daft presents ......silly
Going down the football and as you pass a charity bucket for whatever charity is there and chucking in a tenner ........Nice one
This could be a good discussion on the homeless but you got involved and it's going south
Im sure He feels he works harder that the druggies outside the supermarketQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Im amazed by this post, and im not sure if its serious or not, I might be getting wooshed
Both myself and my wife work hard , in April this year she started up her own business, she is doing the same job but working for herself
( as does my oldest daughter who is at Uni, she has to buy her own alcohol and pay for her entertainment, to do that she has 3 part time jobs )
Now we both pay out taxes ( which in turn pays for NHS, benefits and the help people get ) if no-one worked and paid taxes, where does all the money come from ? ? the money tree ? ? ?
Are you serious that we shouldn't be able to go on holidays ? ?? or should feel guilty about it ? ? ?
Im with JRH here, I give no money to the beggars on the street ( who normally spend it on drugs or drink ) if I see youngsters, I might buy a bar of chocolate for them, but thats it
as a side note ( and ive mentioned it before ) I help out at a food bank, also at a charity that refurbs bikes and scooters and the money is used to helped the homeless equip flats they move into, buy a bed etc etc ) I only collect the bikes in my van and occasionally spot them on Facebook market place and go and pick them up, its nothing much, but its good for my Karma
2 weeks ago, I dropped off 200 " selection boxes " ( only the £1.09 type, nothing too extravagant ) to the food bank I help out at, my idea was this week when someone collects a bag of food for 4, they get 4 selection boxes to have a little festive joy
My biggest issue is these folks, most suffer from PTSD and have been cast aside by society, its shocking, Ive mentioned my garage down in Tidworth on here before, its still being paid for and still occasionally used ( according to the housing officer )Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
how we let these poor soldiers fall through the gaps is terrible
A foodbank more local to myself will be getting about £30 worth of food same as they do every other year. The days of me giving that amount in change every month to chancers under the guise of being homeless to spend on crack / heroin are long gone. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
if I am feeling especially festive and jolly and I am behind an elderly person in the queue at the corner shop asking to top up their gas by £20 I might offer to pay for it. Might. Not promising.
Feck me you are a moderatorQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Do you seriously think you work any harder than say dai Jones the cleaner who works nights at the hospital ?
Feck me who are you to say the money you give to the homeless goes on drugs and drink
Jesus christ no wonder the homeless charities struggle to get money at this time of year with you walking the other way
Fecking joke
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Originally Posted by blue matt
I didnt say that thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You know that all the homeless up your way are sky high ?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
OK then you keep dreaming skylark
Loads and loads of reasons why people become homeless ......coming to Cardiff to escape cnuts like you in Merthyr being one of them
Piss off , you are a fecking clownQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
im going to answer thisQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I dont think I worker harder than dai Jones the cleaner who works nights at the hospital , but I do know I work hard, with the money I work hard for, I shouldn't be made to feel guilty if I go on holibobs
I see the homeless and the drug misuse, its not invisible
I walk the other way to the food bank, but im happy with that
I helped one about 20 years ago. Ex squaddie who had been homeless. I was throwing away an old sofa, fridge and TV and the charity who come to our work said theyd take them off me, help this guy get back on his feet. I knew the guy. Same age as me. Never really liked him tbh but help him get back on his feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Fast forward 20 years he was found guilty last week of raping one of his 18 year old daughters friends. No doubt the Sludges of this world will defend him and blame the system but I wish I never helped the kent back on his feet.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/l...n-help-2036096
Shame as he had done a lot for charity but what Ive heard he did that night of the rape was despicable and to make the poor girl testify in court, absolutely sickening.
Listen you gimpQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
You shouldn't feel guilty for going on holiday or buying presents for your family
But the point I am trying to make to the feckwit brigade on here , led by Lord trumpet of Merthyr is .....instead of spending 100 quid this Xmas on chocolates for the wife or 300 quid on a family night out
Spent half of that .....you are still OK with the bank manager ......and give a few quid to the homeless !
It's as simple as that . But we get you wobbleheads coming out with all these excuses ......
Here is the scenario .....a bloke in his thirties is homeless in Cardiff...he served in iraq .....developed ptsd .....he drinks to forget .....by sending some money to one of the Cardiff Street charities they could try and get him off the street ......by giving him ten quid for cider you stop him hassling your daughters later on in the afternoon .....not the ideal solution but there you go
But instead of that sod the homeless they are all druggies ff sake
Oh **** off you ****Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Pot meet kettle. I got involved after the name calling started and you and JR got arguing :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Whats someones occuptation got to do with anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Theres workers and shirkers in every occupation. If you ever had a job I have no doubt which category you would fall into.
And so the name calling starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Give it a rest you sapQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
This thread is about the homeless not your one way trip to self realisation
[QUOTE=J R Hartley;5374505]And so the name calling
This was a thread about the homeless
Now it's about scroungers and rapists
You tit
I think someone needs a time out on the naughty step.
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;5374507]Ah bless. Did someone derail your thread like you do to others? Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Yeah liquidate him matt
Go and make a flask of tea, get yourself a blanket and feck off down to Cardiff and do something useful with yourself you lazy oaf.
Do agree .Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
The point of the link is perhaps people like you and Linda shouldn't just shout out numbers that is on the top of their head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Someone on here may know different (?) but Cardiff have a rough sleepers team out nightly engaging with rough sleepers and doing the numbers.
Interesting you don't question homelessness charities so much? I wonder how much their CEOs' and directors are paid in comparison to local authority homelessness staff?
I read this about an hour or so ago and it made me think of about my cousin who's a year or two younger than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
He's been a Heroin addict since he was kicked out of school in he 80s
My old man just called me up to tell me that my cousin died of an overdose this morning....really weird timing.
His parents tried everything with him to help even raising his twins who were born addicted.
I'm sad for my cousin who was essentially a nice lad who fell in with a bad crowd very young.
I'm absolutely gutted for my uncle who gave so much and my other cousins his Brothers.
I wish there was a way to rid the earth of such poison.
I'd say you did a great job of sending this one south. Battling about 15 different posters saying the same thing over and over, this is probably what Tuerto meant the other day when saying it's what ruins the board. Everyone else is wrong and you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I'm not sure why you mentioned my name in reply to someone else earlier. As far as I'm aware up until that point I'd replied decently on here.
I'm not gonna repeat myself, you already know you don't work, you've said it yourself as you look after your mum, me repeating myself adds to ruining the board : thumbup:
I've got a mate who does that with free money, free board and lodge, he hated work, he absolutely loves life as a carer and hasn't got a care in the World. He's a nice bloke but he has always been lazy bustard.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Yes, that's true. There's a site that lists a lot of useful information on the Cardiff & Vale University Health Board Support For The Homeless page here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
It's interesting you raise the point about CEOs. It's something I have a real problem with many charities and third sector social enterprises tbh. I'm not going to get into that on here but I worked on some projects with Crisis in London and I've had a lot of direct contact and experience with one of the Social Housing organisations in Grangetown. There's way too much of a private corporate structure and feel to their management practices that makes me feel uncomfortable especially when they're dependent on volunteers and low paid workers.
Terrible excuse not to work in my opinion. People that have to look after family aren't anything special,.it is something we should do, and with the other time you have spare get a part time job and don't spend it on your own leisure, like millions of others have to do, families up and down the country battle poverty working dead end minimum wage jobs and still have epder family members to look after whilst holding together a family. Then there are the ones that are "ful time carers" don't do a jot else apart from spending their spare time on hobbies. Can work won't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Tis a shame.
Sorry to hear that Wash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
This is such a huge generalisation and pretty offensive tbh. I'm not going to bother with this thread as it's already turned into a sh*t show so I'm out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Calling bolllocks on this as soon as I read that you've got a mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
You think being a full time carer is for lazy baastards?
Fair play, you're a deluded cuunt.
A smart man who followed the thread would get it :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
You really are a fecking assholeQuote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
My old dear , before she died last May was seriously ill but the NHS simply didn't have space for her so she died at home
We as a family didn't really have a choice in the matter
It's feckin exhausting looking after a loved one and I got ....feck all for it .....no benefits, no hand outs , no scrounging
Now if you or any of the gobshites want to discuss caring , scrounging or anything else pm me and I will see you down the ground
I will not be kicking your arse , I will be educating your ignorance
That's really sad dude , take careQuote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew