What constitutes a full English breakfast?

You can keep your bubble and squeak whatever society you are.

I think sausage, egg, beans and bacon with toast are needed, along with black pudding.

Tomatoes, mushrooms etc add as you like.

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Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK

Hash browns!!! ...maybe maple syrup on pancakes and grits as well ? chips have never been part of anyone's breakfast

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Get chips a lot in London etc.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Yeah, I agree with you about the bubble & squeak.
It has to be fried tomatoes and not plum tomatoes out of a tin, just too messy when it runs into the fried egg!

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Nice chopped up mixed with beans and black pudding

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Hash browns, chips, bubble & squeak and tinned tomatoes have no place in a full English.
The rest is fine, as long as the sausages are used as a breakwater between the eggs and beans.
Brown sauce to finish it off aswell.

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Why do people have a thing with beans and eggs? I love beans and egg on toast..

Read up on English Breakfasts a short while ago whilst lost down an internet rabbit hole. The English Breakfast as we understand only came about around the time of The First World War and has evolved over the intervening years to what we know it as now.

Baked beans only arrived in the UK in 1886, so can’t truly be seen as a traditional part of the dish. Plus they are an American invention.

I find it curious how the dish has managed to reach all parts of the UK, has a standard set of ingredients whilst also having regional differences.

Scotland - Lorne sausage. God they are lush.
North West - Bury Black Pudding. Again, lush. The huge “plate sized” slices are far more appealing than the one’s I used to have in Cardiff (I now live in Manchester).

But for the record….
Two sausages (Pork & Apple), 2 unsmoked rashers of back bacon, baked beans, toms (tinned or grilled fresh), fried egg, black pudding.
Two rounds of bread and butter. (Doorsteps)
Brown sauce. (HP)
Touch of vinegar.
Mayonaisse. (Hellman’s, the rest tastes naff)
Pot of strongly brewed Breakfast tea.

Under no circumstances should any form of potato be part of the meal. If it does, it becomes a fry-up and not a full-English.

And for me, absolutely no mushrooms. But I accept it’s a proper part of the full-English for others.

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Originally Posted by Taffster

Read up on English Breakfasts a short while ago whilst lost down an internet rabbit hole. The English Breakfast as we understand only came about around the time of The First World War and has evolved over the intervening years to what we know it as now.

Baked beans only arrived in the UK in 1886, so can’t truly be seen as a traditional part of the dish. Plus they are an American invention.

I find it curious how the dish has managed to reach all parts of the UK, has a standard set of ingredients whilst also having regional differences.

Scotland - Lorne sausage. God they are lush.
North West - Bury Black Pudding. Again, lush. The huge “plate sized” slices are far more appealing than the one’s I used to have in Cardiff (I now live in Manchester).

But for the record….
Two sausages (Pork & Apple), 2 unsmoked rashers of back bacon, baked beans, toms (tinned or grilled fresh), fried egg, black pudding.
Two rounds of bread and butter. (Doorsteps)
Brown sauce. (HP)
Touch of vinegar.
Mayonaisse. (Hellman’s, the rest tastes naff)
Pot of strongly brewed Breakfast tea.

Under no circumstances should any form of potato be part of the meal. If it does, it becomes a fry-up and not a full-English.

And for me, absolutely no mushrooms. But I accept it’s a proper part of the full-English for others.

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If potatoe makes it a fry up rather than a full English, what does Mayonnaise make it?

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'd rather tinned tomatoes than beans.

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Tinned tomatoes are traditional as there were no tomatoes in the UK for most of the year until relatively recently (in my lifetime). Unless you lived in the manor house and your Gardner grew some in his Victorian Greenhouse.
I can remember at this time of year, just before Easter, looking forward to the boats from The Canary Islands arriving with their gorgeous sun kissed tomatoes.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

And Italy gets a bit of slack when it comes to coffee, in fairness, they get away with a fair bit. A tower called Pisa that's ****ed because it was built poorly and a city that has basically flooded and stinks of shit. Anywhere else they'd be seen as disaster zones. The price of being cool, eh .

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That’s why we’re in the building game and getting by through working our stones off instead of having the forethought years ago to build one simple tower that’d eventually start keeling over and over the years making millions out of tourists coming to view it……… I’ve just launched my level :hehe:

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Why do people have a thing with beans and eggs? I love beans and egg on toast..

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I just prefer to keep my wet items apart and choose to mix them if I want to.

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Yeah, I agree with you about the bubble & squeak.
It has to be fried tomatoes and not plum tomatoes out of a tin, just too messy when it runs into the fried egg!

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tinned plum tomatoes on toast is very underrated. Although when i cook something like that or beans on toast I have a hard time justifying to my wife that British cuisine isn't as bad as it is made out to be

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

I just prefer to keep my wet items apart and choose to mix them if I want to.

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Keep wet stuff away from toast and fried bread

Or I am not even coming in the shop

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Originally Posted by Rjk

tinned plum tomatoes on toast is very underrated. Although when i cook something like that or beans on toast I have a hard time justifying to my wife that British cuisine isn't as bad as it is made out to be

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Salt n Pepper on Tom's and eggs

Sorted

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

If potatoe makes it a fry up rather than a full English, what does Mayonnaise make it?

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Perfect.

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

I might want to mix them, but I'd like it to be my choice !!

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Now you are speaking my language

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Originally Posted by Taffster

Perfect.

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You don't like fried mushrooms with your bacon ?

We don't want your sort round here

Mushrooms have no place on a fried breakfast.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

tinned plum tomatoes on toast is very underrated. Although when i cook something like that or beans on toast I have a hard time justifying to my wife that British cuisine isn't as bad as it is made out to be

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:ayatollah::ayatollah::ayatollah:

I've never thought about looking in the supermarkets for tinned plum tomatoes here in China. However, you've given me food for thought now (pun intended). If I can find some tomorrow morning my lunch is sorted! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I'd rather tinned tomatoes than beans.

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Grilled tomatoes instead of the B&S, leave those beans alone!

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

:ayatollah::ayatollah::ayatollah:

I've never thought about looking in the supermarkets for tinned plum tomatoes here in China. However, you've given me food for thought now (pun intended). If I can find some tomorrow morning my lunch is sorted! :thumbup:

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What's wrong with chicken porridge for brekkie?

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Mushrooms have no place on a fried breakfast.

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Or in any other meal or food product!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

What's wrong with chicken porridge for brekkie?

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the mrs makes a beautiful congee, usually with salted duck eggs and pickled vegetables - but sometimes you just want tinned tomatoes on toast

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Why do people have a thing with beans and eggs? I love beans and egg on toast..

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Me too. It's what I had for breakfast on Saturday.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Hash browns, chips, bubble & squeak and tinned tomatoes have no place in a full English.
The rest is fine, as long as the sausages are used as a breakwater between the eggs and beans.
Brown sauce to finish it off aswell.

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Neither do baked beans - as American as you can get.

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Originally Posted by lincoln blue

Tinned tomatoes are traditional as there were no tomatoes in the UK for most of the year until relatively recently (in my lifetime). Unless you lived in the manor house and your Gardner grew some in his Victorian Greenhouse.
I can remember at this time of year, just before Easter, looking forward to the boats from The Canary Islands arriving with their gorgeous sun kissed tomatoes.

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It must've been weird to be young in your time.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Me too. It's what I had for breakfast on Saturday.

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Black pepper all over the top... lovely.

Toast

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Keep wet stuff away from toast and fried bread

Or I am not even coming in the shop

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What about beans on toast? Do you have the beans on the side?

Marmalade

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Marmalade

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You're more like marmite

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Black pepper all over the top... lovely.

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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

What about beans on toast? Do you have the beans on the side?

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2 pieces of toast - 1 on top of the other. You only eat the bottom piece 😊

I will say this

If black pudding is well done , it's a gastronomic pleasure

If it raw and rubbery its a trip to casualty

When I worked for the Civil Service and BT I occasionally had to go to London on courses and business trips and had to stay overnight.

I never had a full English during the working week at home but always had one at the various hotels or B and B' I stayed in as it was always included in the price.

My breakfast was invariably

A bowl of cornflakes

2 rashers of bacon, 2 sausages, baked beans, 2 fried eggs (or 1 fried egg and some scrambled) fried bread, hash browns (or a few chips or some other fried potatoes)

I was never offered bubble and squeak, didn't like fried tomatoes or black pudding (though in later years I have got to like black pudding and don't mind tomatoes).

I then had a slice or two of toast with marmalade.

Washed down with orange juice and tea or coffee.

And there Ladies and Gentlemen is my idea of a full English breakfast.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

When I worked for the Civil Service and BT I occasionally had to go to London on courses and business trips and had to stay overnight.

I never had a full English during the working week at home but always had one at the various hotels or B and B' I stayed in as it was always included in the price.

My breakfast was invariably

A bowl of cornflakes

2 rashers of bacon, 2 sausages, baked beans, 2 fried eggs (or 1 fried egg and some scrambled) fried bread, hash browns (or a few chips or some other fried potatoes)

I was never offered bubble and squeak, didn't like fried tomatoes or black pudding (though in later years I have got to like black pudding and don't mind tomatoes).

I then had a slice or two of toast with marmalade.

Washed down with orange juice and tea or coffee.

And there Ladies and Gentlemen is my idea of a full English breakfast.

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Fried and scrambled eggs?

You have just taken this thread to a whole new level!

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I will say this

If black pudding is well done , it's a gastronomic pleasure

If it raw and rubbery its a trip to casualty

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A veritable metaphor for life, methinks.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

When I worked for the Civil Service and BT I occasionally had to go to London on courses and business trips and had to stay overnight.

I never had a full English during the working week at home but always had one at the various hotels or B and B' I stayed in as it was always included in the price.

My breakfast was invariably

A bowl of cornflakes

2 rashers of bacon, 2 sausages, baked beans, 2 fried eggs (or 1 fried egg and some scrambled) fried bread, hash browns (or a few chips or some other fried potatoes)

I was never offered bubble and squeak, didn't like fried tomatoes or black pudding (though in later years I have got to like black pudding and don't mind tomatoes).

I then had a slice or two of toast with marmalade.

Washed down with orange juice and tea or coffee.

And there Ladies and Gentlemen is my idea of a full English breakfast.

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Are you 34 stone in weight? 3 in one breakfast 🤣

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

When I worked for the Civil Service and BT I occasionally had to go to London on courses and business trips and had to stay overnight.

I never had a full English during the working week at home but always had one at the various hotels or B and B' I stayed in as it was always included in the price.

My breakfast was invariably

A bowl of cornflakes

2 rashers of bacon, 2 sausages, baked beans, 2 fried eggs (or 1 fried egg and some scrambled) fried bread, hash browns (or a few chips or some other fried potatoes)

I was never offered bubble and squeak, didn't like fried tomatoes or black pudding (though in later years I have got to like black pudding and don't mind tomatoes).

I then had a slice or two of toast with marmalade.

Washed down with orange juice and tea or coffee.

And there Ladies and Gentlemen is my idea of a full English breakfast.

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thats a all you can eat breakfast, when we stay at a Prem Inn, thats our breakfast, but we often add a few Danishes in the mix aswell, no need for Lunch then :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

thats a all you can eat breakfast, when we stay at a Prem Inn, thats our breakfast, but we often add a few Danishes in the mix aswell, no need for Lunch then :thumbup:

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Why over fill your stomach just to feel bloated and slobby all day to skip one meal?

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Why over fill your stomach just to feel bloated and slobby all day to skip one meal?

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Value for Money :hehe: that'll teach them to offer " all you can eat " and all that

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

A veritable metaphor for life, methinks.

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