Dick Advocaat - Turns down Cardiff job

Dick Advocaat

My mother-in-laws two favourite things

Wasn't he sacked from Rangers for having a drug problem?

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

I mean they could approach some uk-based managers with their finger on the pulse of championship football who are less likely to die in the post?

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this seems like sounding out an experienced old hand who might be prepared to take over until the end of the season and then walk away .
no up and coming championship manager would sign up for that

No denial of the story from the club yet as far as I'm aware - do we take it that if there's not one by tonight, then it's true?

Ordinarilly, a club would be best advised to ignore such a ridiculous sounding story, but the problem is that, at Vincent Tan's Cardiff City, it sounds nowhere near as absurd as it would if, say, Bristol City were offering Advocaat the manager's job.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

No denial of the story from the club yet as far as I'm aware - do we take it that if there's not one by tonight, then it's true?

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It would be more than a little odd for a 77 year-old Dutchman to confirm the story if it wasn’t true. It seems so random.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

this seems like sounding out an experienced old hand who might be prepared to take over until the end of the season and then walk away .
no up and coming championship manager would sign up for that

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I presume they’ve exhausted the idea of bringing someone decent in to keep us up and stay next season then?

So bring someone in who’s 77, semi retired and chilling in the Caribbean to manage a relegation fight.

Bobby Gould is also available and his wife says he can come

What’s Rinus Michels up to? Big Ron?

If it's true which I doubt, Tan deserves to lose all his money.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

If it's true which I doubt, Tan deserves to lose all his money.

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77, is a tad to old especially considering there’s youngsters like Allardyce available, he’s probably early 70’s
What could possibly go wrong ?

Bacuna plays for him in the Curacao side - maybe it was all a big plan to bring him back to Cardiff!

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

Bacuna plays for him in the Curacao side - maybe it was all a big plan to bring him back to Cardiff!

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Maybe it was Bacuna who stopped this deal happening after telling him what a circus it is here! Who would’ve known the £3m wasn’t a total waste

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Testing the waters of a 77 year old. I don't care whatever way you spin it, this is absolutely mental.

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Nothing really to spin lol. Could just be an agent knowing the club may be looking for a manager and looking to make him an option. Seems to be dismissed pretty quickly.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Exactly. This story is obviously nonsense. It’s a clear conspiracy to discredit Vincent Tan and derail City’s bid to stay in the Championship that is being orchestrated by a random bunch of Dutch and Scottish journalists.

How dare they? Bastards, the lot of them…

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

Nothing really to spin lol. Could just be an agent knowing the club may be looking for a manager and looking to make him an option. Seems to be dismissed pretty quickly.

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He's 77. He doesn't want a full time job, he's said that repeatedly. He got annoyed when he was asked about it. The club clearly sounded him out. There's nothing to dismiss, it happened.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He's 77. He doesn't want a full time job, he's said that repeatedly. He got annoyed when he was asked about it. The club clearly sounded him out. There's nothing to dismiss, it happened.

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By who at the club?

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Claims we've approached him to be manager, and his wife has told him to turn it down.

He's 77, so might be able to win our YPOTY

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Maybe he wants the World not to forget him, a final shout for attention?

I can't see it myself but with Tan we can never be sure.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

This emergence of this story will be more than a little embarrassing for the club's hierarchy, especially given the timing. I wouldn't mind betting we'll see a public denial on the club's website in due course, or maybe Dalman will speak to his friends at Walesonline.

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Why on earth would the club bother to comment publicly and put something on the web site?!

They behaving ridiculously at times but that is just a stupid thing to say.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff

Why on earth would the club bother to comment publicly and put something on the web site?!

They behaving ridiculously at times but that is just a stupid thing to say.

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The problem is they behave so ludicrously at times that, without a denial, people will believe that they approached a seventy seven year old who, it seems, has no desire to return to club management- they wouldn’t believe a story like this if it was about, say, twenty teams in this division, but they would if it was Cardiff.


I think there’s a better than even chance that, whatever division we’re in, we’ll be looking for a new manager again this summer. If it’s believed that we approached a seventy seven year old who was publicly critical of the club, what effect will that have on the type of candidate we attract in a few months time? If there is another side to this story which paints City in a better light, then they need to get it into the public domain somehow.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Maybe he wants the World not to forget him, a final shout for attention?

I can't see it myself but with Tan we can never be sure.

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The world not to forget him..........:shrug:......

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

Maybe it was Bacuna who stopped this deal happening after telling him what a circus it is here! Who would’ve known the £3m wasn’t a total waste

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Bacuna would have done the opposite. given his contract length. Dickie boy would have been signed up until he was 80 knowing our lot.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The problem is they behave so ludicrously at times that, without a denial, people will believe that they approached a seventy seven year old who, it seems, has no desire to return to club management - they wouldn’t believe a story like this if it was about, say, twenty teams in this division, but they would if it was Cardiff.

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The point (which was clearly lost on one particular individual) is that this story could easily be destabilising for the manager and his squad at a critical time if it is true that the hierarchy were recently seeking to replace Riza with Advocaat.

A denial and a vote of confidence in the current manager might help under the circumstances. However, the problem is the story is so bizarre it must surely have a strong element of truth to it. After all, why would a journalist ask a 77 year-old Dutchman about an approach from Cardiff City in the first place, and why would he confirm that had happened if it hadn’t?

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Maybe he wants the World not to forget him, a final shout for attention?

I can't see it myself but with Tan we can never be sure.

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He didn't bring it up for Christ's sake. That meant the journalist had been told by someone else, and the Advocaat got seriously annoyed at the story. Advocaat has won league titles at 3 clubs and the UEFA Cup, he doesn't need Cardiff City to stay relevant.