my life is 100% back to normal, apart from wearing a mask in shops and StarbucksQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I have said for ages, society will not be too bothered / scared by unto 200 deaths a day, but at how long can that go on for ? ?
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my life is 100% back to normal, apart from wearing a mask in shops and StarbucksQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I have said for ages, society will not be too bothered / scared by unto 200 deaths a day, but at how long can that go on for ? ?
Yeah I’m living as normal too really other than mask on the tube/bus and not back to the office yet. Just hoping schools going back doesn’t have too bad of an affect and the cases start to drop at some point.
I don't know about vaccine supply in NZ/Oz but I think Ceredigion has one of the lowest rates of vaccine uptake in Wales and also had one of the best local versions of test and trace.
If there is a new virus pandemic then obviously best thing to do is have as few cases as possible until research is done and ideally vaccine developed.
We've been reminded of basic good health tips during this that are worth keeping hold of and government should seriously consider making immediate access to SSP (and higher payments) a permanent thing even if it's just to protect work productivity.
At the moment we're enjoying the outside anyway. Real test comes in winter time to see if people still opening windows on buses and wearing masks or whether 2018 flu death figures are an aspiration rather than a failure now we've seen basic health measures work really well.
Mate of mine said places are closing early (chip shops etc) and pubs can't get the staff so a few aren't open. All happy sunning it up on the beach with their furloughQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
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omn the BBC site it says of the number of new cases today 50% are under 30.
Hopefully that will translate into less serious illness and less or shorter hospitalisations.
yep, a lot of places are shutting early due to staff issues, the seasonal workers are not moving down to Cornwall in the rented shared houses, as the landlords are using airB&B to rent out weekly instead of the seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Company I work for had a few lads not turn up for work, rooms paid for and the boss told the owners of their digs the score and offered him to put them back up so he could make a few quid extra, 3 rooms went in less than an hour in mid Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I've taken to wearing a bucketQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
This goes some way towards answering the question I asked;-Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...care-for-covid
Another….Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Staffordshire Covid sceptic Marcus Birks dies in hospital https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-58376709
https://twitter.com/TheFreds/status/...734091777?s=19
someone's had a Weston super on this one :hehe:
It won’t stop me having the booster vaccine and I know that there is a perception that the Pfizer is a little bit more effective than the Astra Zeneca, but it is a bit concerning that, having had two AZ vaccines, my third one is going to be Pfizer or Moderna - anyone seen anything explaining why AZ won’t be used?
Supply?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
COVID-19: Life-saving antibody treatment to be rolled out across UK from next week, an antibody cocktail developed by Roche and Regeneron, will be initially used to treat COVID-19 hospital patients who have not developed an adequate antibody response.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...-week-12410623
Don't know if anyone's interested, but a couple of days ago, I got an answer to the question I asked which, on the face of it, makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Apparently the AZ vaccine has an effect on platelet production - it is thought that it's fine to have two AZ vaccines, but any more may become problematic.
n/a
UK start to pandemic worst public health failure ever, MPs say;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58876089
Any response from Boris will be to pass as much responsibility as possible towards the scientists, and to highlight the success of the vaccine programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
To be fair, although our stats don't look quite as impressive now as they once did, the UK Government does deserve credit for the vaccine program, but the worst public health failure ever is as damning an indictment as you can imagine..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
It was a balanceQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I’m for one am thankful it hasn’t meant a future of massive taxes
I’m sure I’d have a different opinion if it was one of my loved ones dying though
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...etime-tax-rateQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
You're right I should have caveated that - I agree with the premise but the Tories messed it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
You sure about the taxes? Whose paying the 500 billion bill?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
All they had to do was lock down a couple of weeks earlier and the economy would have probably been in a better state than it is no without the need for the inevitable tax hike.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
It wasn’t a balance it was a complete and utter **** up, we only had to look at Italy for how it would have gone.
And then the same mistake was repeated again in September/October. Even if you could forgive the initial massive **** up you can’t ignore that.
This could go down as one of the stupidest posts of government defending we’ve ever seen on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Thankful a load of people died due to a massive **** up but at least we won’t see a massive tax hike!
Oh sorry we are getting a massive tax hike and national insurance increase and we still managed to kill a load of people.
I don’t understand the lack of empathy someone must have to say “maybe I’d have felt different if it was a family member of mine who died”.
What would you have caveated it with? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Has it ever been mentioned how much state pension has been saved through the pandemic? Must have been a regular few bob per month when it was rampaging through care homes.
Ooooh touchy subject , sadly it did cross my mind in addition if the majority of the Covid victims were of the age of 81 and above that would also effect the costly treatment those unfortunate soles would have received as care cost in the NHS ,tough one to accept or even point out .Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Still find it astonishing that care home staff are not all vaccinated as winter and greater risk appears once again.
I hear this often yet I don’t know anyone who was praying for an earlier lockdown, on the contrary, when it came people were a bit miffed by it all. What they should have done is end international travel in sooner, of course they didn’t though, bit like with delta from India. That would have got here sometime mind so maybe they thought let it come in summertime:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
the government was rife with that kind of fatalist thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
£170 odd a week per person state pension and, as you touch on, free prescription meds, hospital/GP visits, bus passes etc etc all curtailed in one fell swoop when that person passes. Being very cynical & suspicious was some government number cruncher totting the savings up on the news of every death? Have the figures ever been revealed? Most probably a drop in the ocean compared to furloughs etc but that will be clawed back over time, the savings on the deceased will always be savings.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Go read the first few pages of this thread. Anyone who was paying attention knew we needed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
The company I work for had us working from home a month before the first lockdown even.
Then there was the craziness of closing all the offices but leaving all the pubs and rest open. It was about a big a **** up as you could have.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Decisions were being made in isolation to cancel some events whilst the government dithered over making a definitive decision over others and Boris was busy shaking hands of covid patients in hospital.
Liverpool played Athletico Madrid with 4000 Spanish fans coming over. The Cheltenham festival went ahead and all they did was install a few hand sanitizers. The government should have acted at least 2 weeks earlier in cancelling these and other events, but instead thought that herd immunity was the way to go.
Allowing flights here from India whilst banning those from neighbouring countries was a questionable decision aswell. Wasnt he trying to negotiate a trade deal at the time?
Cancelling the Wales v Scotland rugby match so late that town was already full of Jocks who just packed the pubs instead.
Yep. I was cycling around on the Sunday morning and there were loads checking out of hotels making their way back to the station. They all had hotels booked so travelled anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Wasn't there's Stereophonics gig at the CIA that night aswell?
I agree, I think they got almost every single decision wrong. Why did all those people go to Cheltenham knowing the risk? The Liverpool match, the jocks coming down for the rugby etc etc….I know people who went off ski ing the week or so before lockdown, no one seemed to give a shit, just carrying on going to things etc….Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Right now my sister, her son, my brother in law, his wife, my sister in law & her daughter all have Covid, they live in 4 different parts of the UK and all 6 have been double jabbed!
Hope they're all okay Des, but that kind of goes to the heart of what that article is all about - the number of new cases in the UK is regularly around 40,000 a day and, more often than not, one hundred and fifty people a day are still dying of Covid. That article shows that the UK is one of the world's worst countries as far as current Covid rates are concerned and yet the attitude in England especially appears to be carry on as if things were back to normal - they clearly aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot