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When Trump was re-elected, if someone had been saying that just 1 year into this term he'd be threatening invasion of Greenland, actually invading a South American country to depose its president so the US could exploit their mineral resources, and have gangs of thugs summarily executing people in the US without any fear of retribution then I'd have thought that was extreme paranoia
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Rjk
When Trump was re-elected, if someone had been saying that just 1 year into this term he'd be threatening invasion of Greenland, actually invading a South American country to depose its president so the US could exploit their mineral resources, and have gangs of thugs summarily executing people in the US without any fear of retribution then I'd have thought that was extreme paranoia
There's one huge difference between now and 1939. Then, as now, we had a powerful White Supremacist, Fascist, rogue state threatening global expansion through land grab, authoritarian control, mistreatment of minorities and all of this while abandoning international law.
Then we had a coalition of allies capable of thwarting the Fascists militarily and economically.
Now the Fascists have taken over the only World Superpower and there is no counterforce currently available militarily to stop them. One can only hope the rest of the World is frantically thinking on its feet.
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Dorcus
There's one huge difference between now and 1939. Then, as now, we had a powerful White Supremacist, Fascist, rogue state threatening global expansion through land grab, authoritarian control, mistreatment of minorities and all of this while abandoning international law.
Then we had a coalition of allies capable of thwarting the Fascists militarily and economically.
Now the Fascists have taken over the only World Superpower and there is no counterforce currently available militarily to stop them. One can only hope the rest of the World is frantically thinking on its feet.
Donald is old though, in 3 years he will be gone and a democratic government will probably win and start to undo all his good work.
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Dorcus
There's one huge difference between now and 1939. Then, as now, we had a powerful White Supremacist, Fascist, rogue state threatening global expansion through land grab, authoritarian control, mistreatment of minorities and all of this while abandoning international law.
Then we had a coalition of allies capable of thwarting the Fascists militarily and economically.
Now the Fascists have taken over the only World Superpower and there is no counterforce currently available militarily to stop them. One can only hope the rest of the World is frantically thinking on its feet.
I wouldn't call these kind of takes mental gymnastics. It just requires switching off your brain. Russia, China and others have nuclear weapons and are almost untouchable by the US. Their governments also do far far worse things, millions just choose to ignore them.
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JamesWales
I wouldn't call these kind of takes mental gymnastics. It just requires switching off your brain. Russia, China and others have nuclear weapons and are almost untouchable by the US. Their governments also do far far worse things, millions just choose to ignore them.
You're living in a fools fantasy. I think you wank over Fascists.
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Donald is old though, in 3 years he will be gone and a democratic government will probably win and start to undo all his good work.
We can't be certain in the good 'ole USA. The MAGA cult is still extant
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Dorcus
You're living in a fools fantasy. I think you wank over Fascists.
No wanking involved. I have just opened an atlas past the first page and am aware that countries other than the United States exist. It helps with getting things in context. 👍
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JamesWales
No wanking involved. I have just opened an atlas past the first page and am aware that countries other than the United States exist. It helps with getting things in context. 👍
Masturbation is good for repressing fascist thoughts.
Yes I'm aware other countries other than the USA exist today (and I didn't even need to open an atlas) but of course one by one the USA is gobbling up said countries day by day it seems. That atlas will be (bigly) out of date in just a few months Don will tell you.
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Dorcus
Masturbation is good for repressing fascist thoughts.
Yes I'm aware other countries other than the USA exist today (and I didn't even need to open an atlas) but of course one by one the USA is gobbling up said countries day by day it seems. That atlas will be (bigly) out of date in just a few months Don will tell you.
I mean, America has gobbled up no countries, there has been no fascist takeover and the world does have counterbalances in the form of the countries mentioned, as well as much of the state apparatus in the United States, which is lacking in those countries. Far worse happens in other countries, people just turn a blind eye.
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JamesWales
I mean, America has gobbled up no countries, there has been no fascist takeover and the world does have counterbalances in the form of the countries mentioned, as well as much of the state apparatus in the United States, which is lacking in those countries. Far worse happens in other countries, people just turn a blind eye.
You obviously missed Venezuela, where have you been?
Much to your chagrin it definitely IS a fascist administration and you know very well with a wild man like Trump in charge only military force will stop him and there is no alliance that can achieve that. I'll ignore your silly example of whataboutism in your last paragraph.
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Dorcus
You obviously missed Venezuela, where have you been?
Much to your chagrin it definitely IS a fascist administration and you know very well with a wild man like Trump in charge only military force will stop him and there is no alliance that can achieve that. I'll ignore your silly example of whataboutism in your last paragraph.
Venezuela is currently run by Delcy Rodriguez. She is Venezuelan, Venezuela exists. The ex president was removed, which I can't say I agree with as an action, but Venezuela had a very high rate of police murders which based on another thread seems to be something you care about sometimes, so you shouldn't be too upset.
You say it's a fascist administration with no real in understanding of what fascism is. The fact people can protest and call it such is evidence it isnt. The fact the media is highly critical is a sign it isn't. The fact that great swathes of the country are run by other parties is a sign it isn't. The fact he is restrained by judges is as sign it isn't. You can ignore those realities if you want, but it means your conclusion will be off.
It is also not only the military that would remove Trump from power. He was democratically removed in 2020.
Posts like this, multiplied in their millions really don't help
Apart from that, you are spot on!
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JamesWales
Venezuela is currently run by Delcy Rodriguez. She is Venezuelan, Venezuela exists. The ex president was removed, which I can't say I agree with as an action, but Venezuela had a very high rate of police murders which based on another thread seems to be something you care about sometimes, so you shouldn't be too upset.
You say it's a fascist administration with no real in understanding of what fascism is. The fact people can protest and call it such is evidence it isnt.
It is not only the military that would remove Trump from power. He was democratically removed in 2020.
Posts like this, multiplied in their millions really don't help
Apart from that, you are spot on!
I'm spot on all the way.
The Rodriguez government is controlled by Trump.
I absolutely do know what fascism is but I don't think you have a clue. Moreover you are ultra right wing and you know the F word triggers people so you go around scrubbing the word away to cushion it's impact because you know it's realisation would seriously curtail your right wing fantasies.
There may not be democratic elections in 2028 if Trump has his way.
It's not worth debating you: you are a cult member and have been brainwashed.
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Dorcus
I'm spot on all the way.
The Rodriguez government is controlled by Trump.
I absolutely do know what fascism is but I don't think you have a clue. Moreover you are ultra right wing and you know the F word triggers people so you go around scrubbing the word away to cushion it's impact because you know it's realisation would seriously curtail your right wing fantasies.
There may not be democratic elections in 2028 if Trump has his way.
It's not worth debating you: you are a cult member and have been brainwashed.
As usual you havent countered anything I've said.
I read what you wrote picturing you saying all this talking to yourself in the bathroom mirror 🤣
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JamesWales
As usual you havent countered anything I've said.
I read what you wrote picturing you saying all this talking to yourself in the bathroom mirror 🤣
No I'm sitting in the lounge with a smooth whisky.
I countered everything you said but of course you know that.
You live in an Ayn Rand fantasy world and your object is to distort the truth. We get the same nonsense from you over and over again; it gets very tiresome,!
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Dorcus
No I'm sitting in the lounge with a smooth whisky.
I countered everything you said but of course you know that.
You live in an Ayn Rand fantasy world and your object is to distort the truth. We get the same nonsense from you over and over again; it gets very tiresome,!
Well you didn't counter any of it - like the existence of a critical media, powerful opposition, free judges, removal by democratic means, existence of free protests etc etc. You just said I wank over fascism and am in a cult 🤣
Must be some whiskey!
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JamesWales
Well you didn't counter any of it - like the existence of a critical media, powerful opposition, free judges, removal by democratic means, existence of free protests etc etc. You just said I wank over fascism and am in a cult 🤣
Must be some whiskey!
You must have some amazing dreams! Whisky doesn't do that; what the hell are you on?
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Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io4ZMdlC6_w
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So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..
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So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..
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the other bob wilson
Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io4ZMdlC6_w
I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.
It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.
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Dorcus
I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.
It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.
Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?
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JamesWales
Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?
I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!
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Dorcus
I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!
Quite plainly isn't what I do though is it. I think a bit of balance is in order. USA is the most powerful country on earth. It deserves greater scrutiny than most for that reason, but not something out of all proportion, because that actually allows real tyrants to get aware with things far more.
You don't have to speak about them, but when you only scrutinize America it doesn't imply the best intentions and it suggests lives elsewhere are worth less.
50 protesters shot dead in Iran yesterday btw
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rotesters.html
Could post a hundred stories about extra judicial murder in Venezuela
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/18/...ngs-poor-areas
Mass detention based on ethnicity in China
https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-preve...of-the-uyghurs
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JamesWales
Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.
We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.
Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.
We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.
And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.
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Dorcus
Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.
We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.
Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.
We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.
And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.
I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔 No making photos of me in bikinis or jacks shirts please.
Whenever a point is made it is never answered - merely responded to with a ratcheting up of a random wholly unconnected insult. Yesterday I was wanking over fascists according to you. Today it's trying to bring back nazism. If I point out that China hasn't held free elections for decades, what will you call me tomorrow? Having maxed out planet earth's baddies, you'll have to go intergalactic! Ming the Merciless? Those weirdos who landed on the moon in superman in the black outfits?!
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JamesWales
I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔
Always Interesting? Thanks Jimbo 😂
I don't use Grok sorry
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And those are just his good points!
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Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs
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JamesWales
Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs
Exactly! Nice though that you continue to show your support for the paedo, convicted rapist and coward who supports the execution of his own citizens.
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ninian opinian
Exactly! Nice though that you continue to show your support for the paedo, convicted rapist and coward who supports the execution of his own citizens.
Thank god I don't have to have conversations with you in real life. 🙄
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JamesWales
Thank god I don't have to have conversations with you in real life. 🙄
Ditto.
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I'm getting psychopath vibes reading this thread :hehe:
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JamesWales
Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs
Does your sarcasm mean you think they have no right to an opinion on Trump then?
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the other bob wilson
Does your sarcasm mean you think they have no right to an opinion on Trump then?
Obviously not.
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JamesWales
Obviously not.
So why the sarcasm?
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the other bob wilson
So why the sarcasm?
I'm just bored shitless of the disproportionate media focus on a bunch of hyper wealthy celebrities who have very little in common with most people and who very rarely are impacted by the things that they often talk about.
I don't like the media obsession with celebrity in any respect of life in all honesty.
He's absolutely entitled to his views, but those of Hollywood celebrities don't greatly interest me tbh, especially as they are so often so predictable.
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so after all the fuss he managed to get a Nobel peace prize after all :hehe:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump finally has the Nobel Peace Prize.<br>Venezuela’s leader, María Corina Machado, gifted her framed Nobel to Trump in Washington, and Trump accepted it. <a href="https://t.co/z30gIAzK78">pic.twitter.com/z30gIAzK78</a></p>— Aditya Raj Tiwari (@adityarajtiwari) <a href="https://twitter.com/adityarajtiwari/status/2012053450042065164?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Gosh how sweet. Let us know how your petition to gift him BBM's Manager of the Month Trophy goes!
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so after all the fuss he managed to get a Nobel peace prize after all :hehe:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump finally has the Nobel Peace Prize.<br>Venezuela’s leader, María Corina Machado, gifted her framed Nobel to Trump in Washington, and Trump accepted it. <a href="https://t.co/z30gIAzK78">pic.twitter.com/z30gIAzK78</a></p>— Aditya Raj Tiwari (@adityarajtiwari) <a href="https://twitter.com/adityarajtiwari/status/2012053450042065164?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Course he accepted it, he doesn't do humility.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...-donald-trump/
As for 2026, Trump should already have done enough to rule himself out of contention for the Peace Prize for this year, but I suspect he'll get it.