The Donald Trump thread

[JamesWales]

You obviously missed Venezuela, where have you been?

Much to your chagrin it definitely IS a fascist administration and you know very well with a wild man like Trump in charge only military force will stop him and there is no alliance that can achieve that. I'll ignore your silly example of whataboutism in your last paragraph.

Venezuela is currently run by Delcy Rodriguez. She is Venezuelan, Venezuela exists. The ex president was removed, which I can't say I agree with as an action, but Venezuela had a very high rate of police murders which based on another thread seems to be something you care about sometimes, so you shouldn't be too upset.

You say it's a fascist administration with no real in understanding of what fascism is. The fact people can protest and call it such is evidence it isnt. The fact the media is highly critical is a sign it isn't. The fact that great swathes of the country are run by other parties is a sign it isn't. The fact he is restrained by judges is as sign it isn't. You can ignore those realities if you want, but it means your conclusion will be off.

It is also not only the military that would remove Trump from power. He was democratically removed in 2020.

Posts like this, multiplied in their millions really don't help

Apart from that, you are spot on!

[Dorcus]

Venezuela is currently run by Delcy Rodriguez. She is Venezuelan, Venezuela exists. The ex president was removed, which I can't say I agree with as an action, but Venezuela had a very high rate of police murders which based on another thread seems to be something you care about sometimes, so you shouldn't be too upset.

You say it's a fascist administration with no real in understanding of what fascism is. The fact people can protest and call it such is evidence it isnt.

It is not only the military that would remove Trump from power. He was democratically removed in 2020.

Posts like this, multiplied in their millions really don't help

Apart from that, you are spot on!

I'm spot on all the way.

The Rodriguez government is controlled by Trump.

I absolutely do know what fascism is but I don't think you have a clue. Moreover you are ultra right wing and you know the F word triggers people so you go around scrubbing the word away to cushion it's impact because you know it's realisation would seriously curtail your right wing fantasies.

There may not be democratic elections in 2028 if Trump has his way.

It's not worth debating you: you are a cult member and have been brainwashed.

[JamesWales]

I'm spot on all the way.

The Rodriguez government is controlled by Trump.

I absolutely do know what fascism is but I don't think you have a clue. Moreover you are ultra right wing and you know the F word triggers people so you go around scrubbing the word away to cushion it's impact because you know it's realisation would seriously curtail your right wing fantasies.

There may not be democratic elections in 2028 if Trump has his way.

It's not worth debating you: you are a cult member and have been brainwashed.

As usual you havent countered anything I've said.

I read what you wrote picturing you saying all this talking to yourself in the bathroom mirror 🤣

[Dorcus]

As usual you havent countered anything I've said.

I read what you wrote picturing you saying all this talking to yourself in the bathroom mirror 🤣

No I'm sitting in the lounge with a smooth whisky.

I countered everything you said but of course you know that.

You live in an Ayn Rand fantasy world and your object is to distort the truth. We get the same nonsense from you over and over again; it gets very tiresome,!

[JamesWales]

No I'm sitting in the lounge with a smooth whisky.

I countered everything you said but of course you know that.

You live in an Ayn Rand fantasy world and your object is to distort the truth. We get the same nonsense from you over and over again; it gets very tiresome,!

Well you didn't counter any of it - like the existence of a critical media, powerful opposition, free judges, removal by democratic means, existence of free protests etc etc. You just said I wank over fascism and am in a cult 🤣

Must be some whiskey!

[Dorcus]

Well you didn't counter any of it - like the existence of a critical media, powerful opposition, free judges, removal by democratic means, existence of free protests etc etc. You just said I wank over fascism and am in a cult 🤣

Must be some whiskey!

You must have some amazing dreams! Whisky doesn't do that; what the hell are you on?

[the other bob wilson]

Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.

[goats]

So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..

[goats]

So, don wants Greenland basically as a buffer between Russia and North America so they can shoot those nukes down before they get anywhere near? Hmmmm….sounds a bit like what Putin wants with Ukraine? I’m sure that land of rich minerals and no doubt oil will be of interest as well…..

[Dorcus]

Simon Kuper, who's a very good football writer, has written a column in the Financial Times asking the question is Trump a Fascist? He thinks he isn't, but he hardly mounts a defence of the orange crook.

I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.

It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.

[JamesWales]

I note Kuper thinks Trump falls short of being a fascist by the omission of only one trait on the classic Umberto Eco list i.e. that he hasn't the obsession with constant wars. Kuper believes Trump is simply a narcissistic, amoral, hedonist and like all bullies will only initiate aggression against the weak. He is purely transactional and will plunder anything he can get so long as he doesn't encounter retaliation.

It's hardly an acquittal. The World is a darker place with Trump in it.

Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?

[Dorcus]

Is it? Or did you just close your eyes and ears to it before he came along? Out of sight, out of mind?

I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!

[JamesWales]

I think that's exactly what you do Jimbo and we are all getting a bit closer to understanding your real intentions. Jimbo the Gaslight King!

Quite plainly isn't what I do though is it. I think a bit of balance is in order. USA is the most powerful country on earth. It deserves greater scrutiny than most for that reason, but not something out of all proportion, because that actually allows real tyrants to get aware with things far more.

You don't have to speak about them, but when you only scrutinize America it doesn't imply the best intentions and it suggests lives elsewhere are worth less.

50 protesters shot dead in Iran yesterday btw
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rotesters.html

Could post a hundred stories about extra judicial murder in Venezuela

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/18/...ngs-poor-areas

Mass detention based on ethnicity in China
https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-preve...of-the-uyghurs

[Dorcus]

Quite plainly isn't what I do though is it. I think a bit of balance is in order. USA is the most powerful country on earth. It deserves greater scrutiny than most for that reason, but not something out of all proportion, because that actually allows real tyrants to get aware with things far more.

You don't have to speak about them, but when you only scrutinize America it doesn't imply the best intentions and it suggests lives elsewhere are worth less.

50 protesters shot dead in Iran yesterday btw
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rotesters.html

Could post a hundred stories about extra judicial murder in Venezuela

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/18/...ngs-poor-areas

Mass detention based on ethnicity in China
https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-preve...of-the-uyghurs

Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.

We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.

Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.

We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.

And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.

[JamesWales]

Quite plainly it's EXACTLY what you do and you have neither balance nor moral compass.

We can see through your shenanigans. You are adopting the very same strategy other more famous ultra right figures have began to adopt by attempting to minimise the effects of Fascism and giving it a friendlier face to attract more widespread appeal.

Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was called out for this about 6 months ago with his call for conservatives (i.e. Right Wing Loons) to own the word Nazi so that it could be rehabilitated and made more acceptable to the masses.

We know this is your core strategy and it stinks. You have absolutely no idea what the word balance means because you are blinkered by your far right rush.

And by the way, whataboutism doesn't work any more given the perilous state of affairs this evil dictator is engineering in the US.

I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔 No making photos of me in bikinis or jacks shirts please.

Whenever a point is made it is never answered - merely responded to with a ratcheting up of a random wholly unconnected insult. Yesterday I was wanking over fascists according to you. Today it's trying to bring back nazism. If I point out that China hasn't held free elections for decades, what will you call me tomorrow? Having maxed out planet earth's baddies, you'll have to go intergalactic! Ming the Merciless? Those weirdos who landed on the moon in superman in the black outfits?!

[Dorcus]

I'm starting to think you might be AI 🤔

Always Interesting? Thanks Jimbo 😂

I don't use Grok sorry

[ninian opinian]

We are all Mark Ruffalo.

https://x.com/marcofoster_/status/20...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA

[Wales-Bales]

We are all Mark Ruffalo.

https://x.com/marcofoster_/status/20...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA

And those are just his good points!

[JamesWales]

Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs

[ninian opinian]

Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs

Exactly! Nice though that you continue to show your support for the paedo, convicted rapist and coward who supports the execution of his own citizens.

[JamesWales]

Exactly! Nice though that you continue to show your support for the paedo, convicted rapist and coward who supports the execution of his own citizens.

Thank god I don't have to have conversations with you in real life. 🙄

[ninian opinian]

Thank god I don't have to have conversations with you in real life. 🙄

Ditto.

[Wales-Bales]

I'm getting psychopath vibes reading this thread

[the other bob wilson]

Always good to hear the views of the Hollywood slebs

Does your sarcasm mean you think they have no right to an opinion on Trump then?

[JamesWales]

Does your sarcasm mean you think they have no right to an opinion on Trump then?

Obviously not.