Cardiff City star's homophobic abuse of police officer

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Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub

Disappointing from TLG that he is perfectly content to sit in a ground with visit Malaysia plastered around it

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I’m not content. I hate it. FFS. Football and life is full of stuff I hate and disagree with but we don’t need to be burning martyrs about it all. We have to choose our battles in life.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I’m not content. I hate it. FFS. Football and life is full of stuff I hate and disagree with but we don’t need to be burning martyrs about it all. We have to choose our battles in life.

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Yep. So linking it to people who buy the shirt is just faux outrage and the usual hypocrisy whilst sitting in a Visit Malaysia branded stadium watching a team with it all over their shirt

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Good post TLG and spot on👍

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Tan is of Chinese origin

Is he homophobic and has he instructed CCFC not to condemn this action

If he has then we might have something to debate but I very much doubt it

Seems like a bit of one and one makes six by TLG

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Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub

Yep. So linking it to people who buy the shirt is just faux outrage and the usual hypocrisy whilst sitting in a Visit Malaysia branded stadium watching a team with it all over their shirt

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Oh indeed

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Tan is of Chinese origin

Is he homophobic and has he instructed CCFC not to condemn this action

If he has then we might have something to debate but I very much doubt it

Seems like a bit of one and one makes six by TLG

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But TLG is all knowing and powerful ,how dare you attack the lord of all knowledge..

Sludge comes out as the winner on this one .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

But TLG is all knowing and powerful ,how dare you attack the lord of all knowledge..

Sludge comes out as the winner on this one .

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Thanks for picking a ‘winner’ I can sleep soundly tonight now.

I am not political and lived just off Cefn Coed Road more than 50 years ago before moving to London. There were no black people in the area then so far as I am aware and I would have known as they would have stood out. I had black acquaintances, but none of them lived in Cyncoed.

I 100% hate bias but as a now elderly white person (how I wish I was young again), I don’t understand how any black man can be homophobic given the colour/racial prejudice they may have encountered in their lives here.

It puzzles me how a black guy working with people of various races and cultures - ie Romeo at Cardiff City - can be homophobic. If I was lucky enough to be his teammate (ie a Cardiff City player); I wouldn’t think much of him at all and would want him to depart from the club.

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Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird

I am not political and lived just off Cefn Coed Road more than 50 years ago before moving to London. There were no black people in the area then so far as I am aware and I would have known as they would have stood out. I had black acquaintances, but none of them lived in Cyncoed.

I 100% hate bias but as a now elderly white person (how I wish I was young again), I don’t understand how any black man can be homophobic given the colour/racial prejudice they may have encountered in their lives here.

It puzzles me how a black guy working with people of various races and cultures - ie Romeo at Cardiff City - can be homophobic. If I was lucky enough to be his teammate (ie a Cardiff City player); I wouldn’t think much of him at all and would want him to depart from the club.

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What has the fact no black people lived in Cyncoed 50 years ago got to do with the rest of your point?

Comes across as Romeo, as a black man, should be privileged hes able to live in an affluent area.

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Originally Posted by Henry Hill

What has the fact no black people lived in Cyncoed 50 years ago got to do with the rest of your point?

Comes across as Romeo, as a black man, should be privileged hes able to live in an affluent area.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzu4WgUOWUM

better not show Stanmore the Ugandan President :hehe:

or Kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwTgU-RZLHQ

We don’t live in either of those countries.
40 years ago I nearly got fired for criticising forcefully two of my bosses who bullied the only Asian in the office - probably because they thought they could get away with it. Admittedly, I went too far.
Please re-read my message- I just don’t understand the criticism.
With 1 in 20 people being gay, Romeo probably has gay colleagues in his workplace at the City - either or both players of back office staff.

To me, his position is no longer tenable at the club - he should go.

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Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird

I am not political and lived just off Cefn Coed Road more than 50 years ago before moving to London. There were no black people in the area then so far as I am aware and I would have known as they would have stood out. I had black acquaintances, but none of them lived in Cyncoed.

I 100% hate bias but as a now elderly white person (how I wish I was young again), I don’t understand how any black man can be homophobic given the colour/racial prejudice they may have encountered in their lives here.

It puzzles me how a black guy working with people of various races and cultures - ie Romeo at Cardiff City - can be homophobic. If I was lucky enough to be his teammate (ie a Cardiff City player); I wouldn’t think much of him at all and would want him to depart from the club.

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Originally Posted by Stanmore Bluebird

We don’t live in either of those countries.
40 years ago I nearly got fired for criticising forcefully two of my bosses who bullied the only Asian in the office - probably because they thought they could get away with it. Admittedly, I went too far.
Please re-read my message- I just don’t understand the criticism.
With 1 in 20 people being gay, Romeo probably has gay colleagues in his workplace at the City - either or both players of back office staff.

To me, his position is no longer tenable at the club - he should go.

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What has country we live in got to do with this?

mare spotted

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Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub

Yep. So linking it to people who buy the shirt is just faux outrage and the usual hypocrisy whilst sitting in a Visit Malaysia branded stadium watching a team with it all over their shirt

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At the risk of inducing another of your dramatic flounces, I should point out that nothing the football club or its fanbase does or doesn’t do arouses any outrage in me. Thankfully, those days are long gone, which is probably just as well considering the moral bankruptcy surrounding the Sala affair.

You’re going to have to try a lot harder than this.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Tan is of Chinese origin

Is he homophobic and has he instructed CCFC not to condemn this action

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Is Vincent Tan homophobic? We may never know. Or care. He's not Cardiff City Football Club. He’s just the current owner.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

But TLG is all knowing and powerful ,how dare you attack the lord of all knowledge..

Sludge comes out as the winner on this one .

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Dumb and Dumber ride again.

I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.

I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?

My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.

Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.

I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?

My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.

Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.

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I can't really answer this but I know there's a lot wrong in the game. Supporting Cardiff City and enjoying football, much like everything in life, means living a level of hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy for all of us to varying degrees.

Sometimes it’s tough to overlook the hypocrisy and corporate nonsense in football. You see clubs making decisions that just scream money over morals, and it stings. Sky's power over KO times. Ticket prices, players are treated like commodities, and fans are often left feeling f*cked over.

But come match day, I’m torn. I know there’s a lot wrong, but I also know that for those 90 minutes, all I want is to lose myself in the game. It’s about the thrill of the match, the buzz of the crowd, and the hope that maybe this time they won't induce a coma (yeah I'm looking at you Bulut).

I’ve realised I have to pick my battles. I can rant about the issues and still love the game. It’s not easy, balancing my criticism with my passion, but at least it lets me enjoy the sport and whatever life there is left to live.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.

I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?

My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.

Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.

I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?

My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.

Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.

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Would have played out with regard to the fans or the club ?

Maybe I am thick but are you insinuating that tan ......or the club tan owns... isn't bothered by or actively is avoiding the homophobic abuse of a public servant by a Cardiff city player.....because homosexuality is against tans culture , the culture of the country he lives in or that CCFC are , as quite often , absolutely hopeless on certain issues ?

Because CCFC refused to get involved in the anti racism my shirt painting on the grounds, according to a club statement that it didn't want to be seen to be favouring certain groups .....whatever the christ that meant

My view is they may simply have not got involved in this homophobic abuse thing because the general running of the club is shambolic rather than any conspiracy floating about ...but I could be wrong

In terms of the fans ......I think that condemnation of homophobic abuse is to be applauded and I think most of our fans are not homophobic these days in tge same way most are not racist ......and if racial insults had been used the same sort of criticism would have been heard

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Is Vincent Tan homophobic? We may never know. Or care. He's not Cardiff City Football Club. He’s just the current owner.

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That's what you seem to be putting into the hat for debate

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.

I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?

My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.

Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.

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Although I agree with what you've said generally - there are many examples of double standards unfortunately - I think one difference here may be that the police officer on the receiving end may not actually be gay? Obviously he may well be, and then. I would agree entirely, bur people call straight people 'homophobic' slurs quite often so that could be what's happened here?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Although I agree with what you've said generally - there are many examples of double standards unfortunately - I think one difference here may be that the police officer on the receiving end may not actually be gay? Obviously he may well be, and then. I would agree entirely, bur people call straight people 'homophobic' slurs quite often so that could be what's happened here?

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I don't know what you're getting at Jim, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what he said is still homophobic whether there's a Gay person in the room or not, and I'm also quite certain that it's considered an offence to use those slurs. This may not be a popular view, but I'm all for rehabilitation, unless something has gone way too far. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, that would only bring misery to those who depends on Romeo, and I would rather someone see the error of their ways and maybe feel some guilt, more importantly change their views after some education. Although I do get why people want him gone.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I don't know what you're getting at Jim, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what he said is still homophobic whether there's a Gay person in the room or not, and I'm also quite certain that it's considered an offence to use those slurs. This may not be a popular view, but I'm all for rehabilitation, unless something has gone way too far. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, that would only bring misery to those who depends on Romeo, and I would rather someone see the error of their ways and maybe feel some guilt, more importantly change their views after some education. Although I do get why people want him gone.

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You could technically get arrested for aggravated racial abuse for calling a white person , for example, a p**I bastard. You're still using racist language, people cant get their heads around that.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I don't know what you're getting at Jim, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what he said is still homophobic whether there's a Gay person in the room or not, and I'm also quite certain that it's considered an offence to use those slurs. This may not be a popular view, but I'm all for rehabilitation, unless something has gone way too far. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, that would only bring misery to those who depends on Romeo, and I would rather someone see the error of their ways and maybe feel some guilt, more importantly change their views after some education. Although I do get why people want him gone.

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Yeah but I shall assume for this purpose that you are straight: if I got pissed and called you a faggot or bender or words such as those (and I'm sure we've all been in such scenarios) then that is different to aiming them at someone you know to be gay .

It's still shameful, embarrassing and all the rest of it but it is different.

I have no idea if that's the case anyway, but it may explain it, I dunno.

Also, let's not forget he was driving pissed up. It's interesting what we consider to be the bigger offence