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I am not political and lived just off Cefn Coed Road more than 50 years ago before moving to London. There were no black people in the area then so far as I am aware and I would have known as they would have stood out. I had black acquaintances, but none of them lived in Cyncoed.
I 100% hate bias but as a now elderly white person (how I wish I was young again), I don’t understand how any black man can be homophobic given the colour/racial prejudice they may have encountered in their lives here.
It puzzles me how a black guy working with people of various races and cultures - ie Romeo at Cardiff City - can be homophobic. If I was lucky enough to be his teammate (ie a Cardiff City player); I wouldn’t think much of him at all and would want him to depart from the club.
We don’t live in either of those countries.
40 years ago I nearly got fired for criticising forcefully two of my bosses who bullied the only Asian in the office - probably because they thought they could get away with it. Admittedly, I went too far.
Please re-read my message- I just don’t understand the criticism.
With 1 in 20 people being gay, Romeo probably has gay colleagues in his workplace at the City - either or both players of back office staff.
To me, his position is no longer tenable at the club - he should go.
mare spotted
At the risk of inducing another of your dramatic flounces, I should point out that nothing the football club or its fanbase does or doesn’t do arouses any outrage in me. Thankfully, those days are long gone, which is probably just as well considering the moral bankruptcy surrounding the Sala affair.
You’re going to have to try a lot harder than this.
I think Mahlon Romeo’s case is interesting as, to me at least, it highlights the double standards that exist within professional football.
I’ll ask a question I touched on earlier in the thread: if a player had been found guilty in a court of law of drink-driving and aiming a tirade of racist abuse at a police officer, do you think a statement of apology would have been deemed sufficient by his club and its supporters? Or do you think he would have been sacked?
My firm belief is that an incident of this nature would have been treated as being far more significant if the discriminatory language the player had used had been racist as opposed to homophobic.
Before anyone asks, I’m not comparing the Romeo situation to the one involving Jack Simpson as the circumstances were clearly different. I’m just interested to hear how people think the Romeo case would have played out had it involved racism instead of homophobia.
I can't really answer this but I know there's a lot wrong in the game. Supporting Cardiff City and enjoying football, much like everything in life, means living a level of hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy for all of us to varying degrees.
Sometimes it’s tough to overlook the hypocrisy and corporate nonsense in football. You see clubs making decisions that just scream money over morals, and it stings. Sky's power over KO times. Ticket prices, players are treated like commodities, and fans are often left feeling f*cked over.
But come match day, I’m torn. I know there’s a lot wrong, but I also know that for those 90 minutes, all I want is to lose myself in the game. It’s about the thrill of the match, the buzz of the crowd, and the hope that maybe this time they won't induce a coma (yeah I'm looking at you Bulut).
I’ve realised I have to pick my battles. I can rant about the issues and still love the game. It’s not easy, balancing my criticism with my passion, but at least it lets me enjoy the sport and whatever life there is left to live.
Would have played out with regard to the fans or the club ?
Maybe I am thick but are you insinuating that tan ......or the club tan owns... isn't bothered by or actively is avoiding the homophobic abuse of a public servant by a Cardiff city player.....because homosexuality is against tans culture , the culture of the country he lives in or that CCFC are , as quite often , absolutely hopeless on certain issues ?
Because CCFC refused to get involved in the anti racism my shirt painting on the grounds, according to a club statement that it didn't want to be seen to be favouring certain groups .....whatever the christ that meant
My view is they may simply have not got involved in this homophobic abuse thing because the general running of the club is shambolic rather than any conspiracy floating about ...but I could be wrong
In terms of the fans ......I think that condemnation of homophobic abuse is to be applauded and I think most of our fans are not homophobic these days in tge same way most are not racist ......and if racial insults had been used the same sort of criticism would have been heard
Although I agree with what you've said generally - there are many examples of double standards unfortunately - I think one difference here may be that the police officer on the receiving end may not actually be gay? Obviously he may well be, and then. I would agree entirely, bur people call straight people 'homophobic' slurs quite often so that could be what's happened here?
I don't know what you're getting at Jim, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what he said is still homophobic whether there's a Gay person in the room or not, and I'm also quite certain that it's considered an offence to use those slurs. This may not be a popular view, but I'm all for rehabilitation, unless something has gone way too far. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, that would only bring misery to those who depends on Romeo, and I would rather someone see the error of their ways and maybe feel some guilt, more importantly change their views after some education. Although I do get why people want him gone.
Yeah but I shall assume for this purpose that you are straight: if I got pissed and called you a faggot or bender or words such as those (and I'm sure we've all been in such scenarios) then that is different to aiming them at someone you know to be gay .
It's still shameful, embarrassing and all the rest of it but it is different.
I have no idea if that's the case anyway, but it may explain it, I dunno.
Also, let's not forget he was driving pissed up. It's interesting what we consider to be the bigger offence