Homophobic chanting (HC) the new arrestable offence at football.

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Originally Posted by Dr Lecter

Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.

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It isn't that they want to announce it it is that they have to keep it secret in every single other part of their life. Can't sleep around without fear of it being leaked, can't get close enough to anyone to have a meaningful relationship without it getting found out, if they do can't go out with their partner wihtout the media being suspicious, can't go on holiday with their partner etc.

Having to keep such a huge part of your life secret from everyone must put a huge strain on everything.

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Both of your examples are clearly homophobic chants if it helps!

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why? what if the song is aimed at (i) a female and (ii) a father and young daughter?

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Originally Posted by TH63

In a similar way, we don't really believe that jacks feast on dead rats.

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bollocks

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Originally Posted by lardy

Reading that, it doesn't seem quite so difficult to work out what is and isn't acceptable in today's society.

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is tickling now sexual assault?

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Originally Posted by TISS

is tickling now sexual assault?

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Probably not to the extent that stealthily jizzing onto the back of a woman in a nightclub is.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

All the Asians I know 'support' Arsenal

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Exception here

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

With the news today that Leicester City fans have been arrested for HC at their recent home match with the Seagulls. Telegraph Sport bottom of page 5.

I am actually wondering what is allowed and what is not.

We all need a sense of humour surely.

With Racism we all know that Black is (properly used) okay but coloured and the N word are no longer acceptable EVER.

But HC is much harder to comprehend I think.
For example ...what about....

Does your boyfriend know you're here? HC?
We can see you holding hands? HC?

For me ... almost a pensioner ... the whole thing is becoming ridiculous.

Discuss. Without anything obviously homophobic.

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I would think personally speaking mate
does your boyfriend know your here ?
and
We can see you holding hands ?
would be deemed banter much like the comments of
"sheep shagggers" we get There is nothing nasty hurtful or mean in any way
but that's irrelevant there is also a freedom of speech issue

the banning of words is a dangerous slide
most of us covered the book 1984 in high school
in fact that book is more relevant now than ever

https://youtu.be/rY5Ste5xRAA Christopher Hitchens puts it a lot more eloquently than I ever could

tbh nothing offends me
what happened to sticks and stones lol
being offended is just stupid and pointless but people love to complain about something :hehe:

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

I would think personally speaking mate
does your boyfriend know your here ?
and
We can see you holding hands ?
would be deemed banter much like the comments of
"sheep shagggers" we get There is nothing nasty hurtful or mean in any way
but that's irrelevant there is also a freedom of speech issue

the banning of words is a dangerous slide
most of us covered the book 1984 in high school
in fact that book is more relevant now than ever

https://youtu.be/rY5Ste5xRAA Christopher Hitchens puts it a lot more eloquently than I ever could

tbh nothing offends me
what happened to sticks and stones lol
being offended is just stupid and pointless but people love to complain about something :hehe:

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Just like morons love to complain about having basic respect for others, which they moan is called 'political correctness'

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

Maybe gay players stay in the "closet" because they realise it's an utter f*cking irrelevance? Why should any footballer have to publicly reveal their sexuality?

Citing Fashanu - this was a guy who can hardly be held up as a semblance of a role model. Making up a story about an MP for money, killing himself when facing trial in Murica for having had sex with a minor.. wasn't a nice person.

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I never knew that about about Fashanu mate
the way he is portrayed now is like hes some kind of squeaky clean role model
when in fact he was a scum bag his sexuality is irrelevant anyones sexuality is
if he was a straight man hed still be a scumbag

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

Just like morons love to complain about having basic respect for others, which they moan is called 'political correctness'

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you will find respect has to be earned

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Originally Posted by Dr Lecter

Or maybe they just don't think it's anybody else's business?

Which it isn't.

I couldn't give a shit if a player is gay or straight and I don't really understand why anyone else feels the need to know the sexuality of a complete stranger.

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in a nutshell :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

You will still hear racist abuse at Cardiff city games , we still have our fair share of arseholes , amazing really considering the Cosmopolitan nature of Cardiff as a city but it's there

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to be honest mate since first going down the city in 1989 I have never been subjected to racist abuse ever
(we do have a lot of decent fans )
the only time I have been was away at Chelsea in our recent cup game there and that was from Chelsea "fans"
but its water off a ducks back and it does not bother me in the slightest :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It isn't that they want to announce it it is that they have to keep it secret in every single other part of their life. Can't sleep around without fear of it being leaked, can't get close enough to anyone to have a meaningful relationship without it getting found out, if they do can't go out with their partner wihtout the media being suspicious, can't go on holiday with their partner etc.

Having to keep such a huge part of your life secret from everyone must put a huge strain on everything.

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I've managed that with the wife for years. It's easy.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Probably not to the extent that stealthily jizzing onto the back of a woman in a nightclub is.

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I'm not sure any stealth was involved at all

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Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2

With the news today that Leicester City fans have been arrested for HC at their recent home match with the Seagulls. Telegraph Sport bottom of page 5.

I am actually wondering what is allowed and what is not.

We all need a sense of humour surely.

With Racism we all know that Black is (properly used) okay but coloured and the N word are no longer acceptable EVER.

But HC is much harder to comprehend I think.
For example ...what about....

Does your boyfriend know you're here? HC?
We can see you holding hands? HC?

For me ... almost a pensioner ... the whole thing is becoming ridiculous.

Discuss. Without anything obviously homophobic.

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About a month ago I was looking at an article referring to LBGT and homophobic chants at football fixtures.

The article went on to use the acronym LBGTQ ... and this led my mates to find out what the 'Q' stood for.

My first thought was 'Queer' ... and my mates said you can't say that in relation to the LBGT 'fraternity'.

Further 'googling' brought me to this site:

http://ok2bme.ca/resources/kids-teen...es-lgbtq-mean/

"Queer is an umbrella term for sexual and gender minorities that are not heterosexual or cisgender. Queer was originally used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires but, beginning in the late-1980s, queer scholars and activists began to reclaim the word."

Apparently the term 'Queer' is acceptable as is 'Questioning'.

Lesbian Bi Gay Trans Queer.
And they've all been around for donkeys years i mean since we have records.
Men wore makeup and heels before women and even added a beauty spot wigs etc.

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Originally Posted by TISS

why? what if the song is aimed at (i) a female and (ii) a father and young daughter?

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But it isn't though is it

Start small and work your way up. It won't be long before it becomes a crime to hate Manchester United.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Start small and work your way up. It won't be long before it becomes a crime to hate Manchester United.

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Never in lower wenvoe

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

you will find respect has to be earned

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By that logic, you don't have any of my respect

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

By that logic, you don't have any of my respect

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i did not ask for it
you really are a strange one lingering on the majority of my posts

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Originally Posted by adz-a32

By that logic, you don't have any of my respect

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so u don't agree respect has to be earned its not hard only one of 2 answers lol

I love Marmite, and I am very offended by Marmite haters. I am traumatized every time I visit the supermarket and it all needs to stop.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

i did not ask for it
you really are a strange one lingering on the majority of my posts

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:hehe: Look in the mirror

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I love Marmite, and I am very offended by Marmite haters. I am traumatized every time I visit the supermarket and it all needs to stop.

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political correctness gone mad mate :hehe:
sorry mate I couldn't resist :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

so u don't agree respect has to be earned its not hard only one of 2 answers lol

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Surely the world would be a better place if people treated each other with respect until they showed they didn't deserve it?

Seems weird to not respect anyone when you have no reason not to.

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Originally Posted by I.8.POLITICAL.CORRECTNESS

to be honest mate since first going down the city in 1989 I have never been subjected to racist abuse ever
(we do have a lot of decent fans )
the only time I have been was away at Chelsea in our recent cup game there and that was from Chelsea "fans"
but its water off a ducks back and it does not bother me in the slightest :thumbup:

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I am not doubting your experience mate but there have been plenty of racist incidents at Cardiff city matches over the years , and arrests too

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Surely the world would be a better place if people treated each other with respect until they showed they didn't deserve it?

Seems weird to not respect anyone when you have no reason not to.

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Always been how I see it. Disrespect is earned.