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29-06-25, 06:47
The Bloop

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

To be honest, good on you if you support England at cricket, nothing wrong with it - it's only sport. Just accept you are a massive ****ing hypocrite when cheer against them at any other sport.

Does that also apply to people from Northern Ireland who support the Ireland rugby team, then dont support Ireland in anything else?
29-06-25, 06:49
the other bob wilson

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

Wales?

I read once one of the biggest obstacles to developing a Wales national team is Glamorgan’s opposition and a number of commercial/political reasons involving Welsh government and Cardiff City council.

It may have been a rabid Welsh nationalist article though so I know I questioned the latter.

Glamorgan have been vocal in the past about its opposition.

Certainly in the case of football and cricket, Wales benefitted from the vital part the valleys and it's southern coastal towns and cities played in maintaining the British Empire in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries through coal mining. Just before the sun set on the Empire, a string of football teams (including Wrexham in the north) and Glamorgan cricket team were invited to join competitions that had consisted solely of English teams up until then. It was the English who did the inviting, they wanted Welsh teams in their main competitions.

I have my doubts whether we'd have four teams in the EFL or a county playing first class cricket if the subject of Welsh clubs entering what were English competitions had been delayed for, say, forty years, but, hardly surprisingly, the Welsh teams involved can recognise a good thing when they see one and have fought to preserve their status when. it came under threat.

The consequence of this in cricket is that a situation has been created where Ireland and Scotland have their own teams which can play against the best in the game in some competitions, while the side calling themseleves Wales play second class games against the likes of Cornwall, Wiltshire and Oxfordshire. It's not a perfect situation, but I'm not aware of any desire within Welsh cricket for a change to a situation where the avenue which leads to Welsh cricketers representing the English national team is closed - who would gain from such a move?
29-06-25, 07:24
Hilts

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

England have had players from Barbados, Ireland, South Africa, Scotland, New Zealand and presumably a plethora of other nations play for them, oh sorry, and Welsh players.

If they can do it, I assume other nations can.

Ergo, there is more than just the England team for Welsh players. Does that clear it up?

And both the Welsh football and rugby teams make up their sides with players lets face it are not Welsh.
29-06-25, 09:48
City123

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

Never really understood anyone who 'supports' England (at anything). Just can't see how anyone can identify with them, granted if you have English parents etc

I'm not one of these dribbling tools who is rabidly anti English either. They're our closest neighbours, some think there's a sporting rivalry but in reality I doubt they give us a second thought.

Sports wise and especially football I'm at best ambivalent towards how they do even though the last two European Championships have provided a wry smile by failing to win them. That said, I don't mind their players, it's more the media and some of the fuuckwits that support them I like to see them continue to go so close but no cigar.

I thought that until I saw their reaction to beating us in 2016, they still go on about it.
29-06-25, 09:53
delmbox

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

To be honest, good on you if you support England at cricket, nothing wrong with it - it's only sport. Just accept you are a massive ****ing hypocrite when cheer against them at any other sport.

Will do but to be fair it's slightly different isn't it being that Welsh players play for England in cricket, it is the England and Wales Cricket Board. The first Ashes I had an interest in was because of Simon Jones and then next one was Geraint Jones. Didn't an Irishman captain them in some form of cricket for a while as well?
29-06-25, 09:58
poc

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Will do but to be fair it's slightly different isn't it being that Welsh players play for England in cricket, it is the England and Wales Cricket Board. The first Ashes I had an interest in was because of Simon Jones and then next one was Geraint Jones. Didn't an Irishman captain them in some form of cricket for a while as well?

and the south africans
29-06-25, 10:09
Jordi Culé

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by City123

I thought that until I saw their reaction to beating us in 2016, they still go on about it.

I think some of the Ingerlund support are dribbling twats, their national side does tend to attract every village fuuckwit from all over their country.

It goes hand in hand with their witty songs about German bombers, Germany never winning a war (they got a German coach mind) and No Surrendering to the IRA.

Some of their may go on about 2016 but we sholud be way down their list of priorities.
30-06-25, 11:12
the other bob wilson

Re: British Lions

Tomos Williams confirmed as being out for the tour.
30-06-25, 11:41
jon1959

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tomos Williams confirmed as being out for the tour.

So is the Wales contingent now down to Jac Morgan, Ieuan Evans (Tour Manager) and the deputy assistant kit man?
30-06-25, 12:17
Underhill1980

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Tomos Williams confirmed as being out for the tour.

Gutted for him
02-07-25, 18:18
Underhill1980

Re: British Lions

Jac Morgan with a MOTM performance which puts him in pole position for a Test start. Slow first half but clinical second.
02-07-25, 19:54
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

Rugby pundits all still favouring van der flier to start 7. And the new wonderkid from England to be back row cover on bench. Hope they’re wrong!
03-07-25, 17:09
J R Hartley

Re: British Lions

Well, well, well. Calls his own son into the squad. What a surprise.
03-07-25, 18:08
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Well, well, well. Calls his own son into the squad. What a surprise.

Indeed. I used the word farce around selection the other day, but now you can add complete and utter.
03-07-25, 18:59
splott parker

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Well, well, well. Calls his own son into the squad. What a surprise.

Greg?
08-07-25, 18:40
sneggyblubird

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

Rugby pundits all still favouring van der flier to start 7. And the new wonderkid from England to be back row cover on bench. Hope they’re wrong!

They are. Morgan is a shoe in.
08-07-25, 21:39
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by sneggyblubird

They are. Morgan is a shoe in.

Not involved in the 23 tomorrow in what the press are considering a test dry run. Curry at 7 - he’s not - and van der flier on bench.
09-07-25, 13:23
chrisp_1927

Re: British Lions

Still can't get my head around how James Lowe butchered that try opportunity first half. He only had to fall over the line. Can't get my head around the fuss about this guy: no pace, no step, can't finish. People seem to fall over themselves because he has a big boot and can carry crash ball like a second rate flanker.
09-07-25, 14:55
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Still can't get my head around how James Lowe butchered that try opportunity first half. He only had to fall over the line. Can't get my head around the fuss about this guy: no pace, no step, can't finish. People seem to fall over themselves because he has a big boot and can carry crash ball like a second rate flanker.

He’s Irish and another Farrell love child. How can anyone have any respect for any selection decision he makes now he has called his son in.
09-07-25, 19:35
chrisp_1927

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

He’s Irish and another Farrell love child. How can anyone have any respect for any selection decision he makes now he has called his son in.

Very true.
09-07-25, 19:39
William Treseder

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

He’s Irish and another Farrell love child. How can anyone have any respect for any selection decision he makes now he has called his son in.

Doubt if any of the players (the ones whose opinions really matter) have any problem with Owen Farrell being included.
Who would you have called up to cover that position?
09-07-25, 21:36
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Doubt if any of the players (the ones whose opinions really matter) have any problem with Owen Farrell being included.
Who would you have called up to cover that position?

Well as it was Eliot daly who was injured, and he plays predominantly 13, 14 or 15 then not someone who only plays 10 or 12. Personally, and based on the 6 nations, Tom Jordan of Scotland, but there are options. Of course the other players are not going to show any adverse response to the call up - the guy picking the team is owens dad! But I’m struggling to see how anyone can justify it.
10-07-25, 05:25
The Bloop

Re: British Lions

A sobering stat from yesterday's game, but it was the first time since 1899 that there wasnt a single Welshman in a Lions matchday squad.
10-07-25, 06:55
William Treseder

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

Well as it was Eliot daly who was injured, and he plays predominantly 13, 14 or 15 then not someone who only plays 10 or 12. Personally, and based on the 6 nations, Tom Jordan of Scotland, but there are options. Of course the other players are not going to show any adverse response to the call up - the guy picking the team is owens dad! But I’m struggling to see how anyone can justify it.

Losing Eliot Day, also meant losing the best long kicker in the squad. Finn Russell, Fin Smith and Matt Smith are decent kickers on their day, but Owen Farrell is the best under pressure, so to me that justifies his selection, lots of games in the modern era are decided on kicking.
It’s all about opinions though 👍
10-07-25, 08:29
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

Losing Eliot Day, also meant losing the best long kicker in the squad. Finn Russell, Fin Smith and Matt Smith are decent kickers on their day, but Owen Farrell is the best under pressure, so to me that justifies his selection, lots of games in the modern era are decided on kicking.
It’s all about opinions though ��

It sure is.
10-07-25, 08:30
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

A sobering stat from yesterday's game, but it was the first time since 1899 that there wasnt a single Welshman in a Lions matchday squad.

Wow. Thankfully got the t20 blast and the tour to keep me away from what has always been a must watch for me. Sad, but I’m just not feeling it.
10-07-25, 10:26
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

A sobering stat from yesterday's game, but it was the first time since 1899 that there wasnt a single Welshman in a Lions matchday squad.

That is absolutely tragic, and so damning of the WRU.
11-07-25, 02:07
Barmy

Re: British Lions

Well thankfully theirs a Welshman listed to play tomorrow.
I’ll be the one doing the ayatollah in the riverbank stand.:ayatollah:
11-07-25, 05:23
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Barmy

Well thankfully theirs a Welshman listed to play tomorrow.
I’ll be the one doing the ayatollah in the riverbank stand.:ayatollah:

Nice one! You live there?
11-07-25, 07:32
poc

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Barmy

Well thankfully theirs a Welshman listed to play tomorrow.
I’ll be the one doing the ayatollah in the riverbank stand.:ayatollah:

:hehe::thumbup:
11-07-25, 09:02
Barmy

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Nice one! You live there?

Yes 35yrs.
And I was innocent. :hehe:
11-07-25, 09:02
splott parker

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Nice one! You live there?

Born under the Grange End Stand, lives in the Riverbank Stand:thumbup:
11-07-25, 09:04
Barmy

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by poc

:hehe::thumbup:

Hope you’re doing okay mate. :thumbup:
11-07-25, 09:07
poc

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Barmy

Hope you’re doing okay mate. :thumbup:

thanks barmy :thumbup:had a few health problems but still watching the mighty bluebirds, hope you all fine
11-07-25, 18:20
Lord Worcester

Re: British Lions

I hope jak morgan has a stormer tomorrow morning and almost forces Farrell to pick him. Then we can see if he actually win. Personally I doubt it. Think van der flier is a shoe in. Let’s see!!
12-07-25, 10:22
Underhill1980

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Great start for the Lions. My mate has moved to Australia and is at the game tonight. As if I wasn’t already jealous of his move.
12-07-25, 11:46
Underhill1980

Re: British Lions

0-48 with 5 to play. Brilliant statement of intent.
12-07-25, 17:23
Heathblue

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

I hope jak morgan has a stormer tomorrow morning and almost forces Farrell to pick him. Then we can see if he actually win. Personally I doubt it. Think van der flier is a shoe in. Let’s see!!

He had a good game, Owen Farrell was M.O.M
12-07-25, 17:26
Harry Paget Flashman

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

I hope jak morgan has a stormer tomorrow morning and almost forces Farrell to pick him. Then we can see if he actually win. Personally I doubt it. Think van der flier is a shoe in. Let’s see!!

He's won before. IMO he's ahead of VDF for the test 7 space on form, but I think AF may go with what he knows and trusts.

VDF is far from a shoe in.
12-07-25, 22:37
splott parker

Re: British Lions

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

He's won before. IMO he's ahead of VDF for the test 7 space on form, but I think AF may go with what he knows and trusts.

VDF is far from a shoe in.

All I can reply to this post is WTF?

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