What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
Is there a limit?
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What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
Is there a limit?
Cross that bridge if and when he comes to it. No real impact so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Latest polls may suggest otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...roval-00205169
Posted in error.
It was an interesting discussion, but they completely avoided the Vance Munich speech, which is the elephant in the room regarding EU/US relations.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
isn't it fairly irrelevant what he polls for the next 4 years - Trump doesn't get to stand again, and I don't think he will give 2 hoots about the state of the republican party when he's left.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Politico?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He's doing exactly what he said he would do in his election manifesto, so why would they complain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
No, the polls aren’t by Politico.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
That’s why I used the word “may” .Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Politico (and their pollsters) have just had all of their USAID funding cut and we are now in a propaganda war of attrition.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Good grief, you’ve well and truly fallen off your fence haven’t you :hehe:
Still on the fence, just commenting on things that are happening!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
His continued endorsement of the clot shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Why if it leads to an end to the war and peace?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I would class that stevo as far left (the inability to accept other opinions) but not Radical left :hehe: :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Because the aggressor will have won - a negotiated settlement involving both sides is fine, but that’s not what we’re getting in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Aggressors do win a lot of the time unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Long way to go on this really but I'm not sure Stevos analysis will prove to be correct tbh
The orange one has now said Zelensky is not very important in meetings.
Inn this case it will lead to a peace entirely on Putin's terms thanks to Trump the appeaser.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
We just don't know that. We dont know the terms. I think the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine are the very least of what he wanted and certainly not everything he wanted. We also don't know what it means for prevention of any Russian incursion in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
But you are right. It is peace through appeasement but the alternative is war, potentially a war almost without end and a war that is devastating for Ukraine but also for Europe generally.
The only alternative is the total defeat of Russia, which seems staggeringly unlikely or the death of Putin which will obviously happen one day but we don't know who would replace him and either way that throw of the dice applies whether you seek peace or not
The random number is a bit Wales Onliney, but this is an interesting list
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93np4y0343o
Is this good or bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq2U5u0s5LQ