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  1. #9951

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    What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
    Is there a limit?

  2. #9952

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
    Is there a limit?
    Cross that bridge if and when he comes to it. No real impact so far.

  3. #9953

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Cross that bridge if and when he comes to it. No real impact so far.
    Latest polls may suggest otherwise.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...roval-00205169

  4. #9954

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    Posted in error.

  5. #9955

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Just watching Newsnight and they are doing a piece on....

    Trump's first MONTH in power!

    It's only been a month. Incredible
    It was an interesting discussion, but they completely avoided the Vance Munich speech, which is the elephant in the room regarding EU/US relations.

  6. #9956

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Latest polls may suggest otherwise.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...roval-00205169
    isn't it fairly irrelevant what he polls for the next 4 years - Trump doesn't get to stand again, and I don't think he will give 2 hoots about the state of the republican party when he's left.

  7. #9957

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Latest polls may suggest otherwise.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...roval-00205169
    Politico?

  8. #9958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
    Is there a limit?
    He's doing exactly what he said he would do in his election manifesto, so why would they complain?

  9. #9959

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Politico?
    No, the polls aren’t by Politico.

  10. #9960

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    isn't it fairly irrelevant what he polls for the next 4 years - Trump doesn't get to stand again, and I don't think he will give 2 hoots about the state of the republican party when he's left.
    That’s why I used the word “may” .

  11. #9961

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    No, the polls aren’t by Politico.
    Politico (and their pollsters) have just had all of their USAID funding cut and we are now in a propaganda war of attrition.

  12. #9962

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    Good grief, you’ve well and truly fallen off your fence haven’t you

  13. #9963

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Good grief, you’ve well and truly fallen off your fence haven’t you
    Still on the fence, just commenting on things that are happening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    What do you think Trump would have to do to have his supporters start to have doubts in him?
    Is there a limit?
    His continued endorsement of the clot shots.

  15. #9965

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    I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Still on the fence, just commenting on things that are happening!

    Trump Train fence.jpg

  17. #9967

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.
    Why if it leads to an end to the war and peace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    I think he just needs to continue doing what he's doing. Everyone will come to realise eventually except for those mentally retarded.
    I would class that stevo as far left (the inability to accept other opinions) but not Radical left

  19. #9969

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Why if it leads to an end to the war and peace?
    Because the aggressor will have won - a negotiated settlement involving both sides is fine, but that’s not what we’re getting in this case.

  20. #9970

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Because the aggressor will have won - a negotiated settlement involving both sides is fine, but that’s not what we’re getting in this case.
    Aggressors do win a lot of the time unfortunately.

    Long way to go on this really but I'm not sure Stevos analysis will prove to be correct tbh

  21. #9971

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    The orange one has now said Zelensky is not very important in meetings.

  22. #9972

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Aggressors do win a lot of the time unfortunately.

    Long way to go on this really but I'm not sure Stevos analysis will prove to be correct tbh
    Inn this case it will lead to a peace entirely on Putin's terms thanks to Trump the appeaser.

  23. #9973

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Inn this case it will lead to a peace entirely on Putin's terms thanks to Trump the appeaser.
    We just don't know that. We dont know the terms. I think the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine are the very least of what he wanted and certainly not everything he wanted. We also don't know what it means for prevention of any Russian incursion in the future.

    But you are right. It is peace through appeasement but the alternative is war, potentially a war almost without end and a war that is devastating for Ukraine but also for Europe generally.

    The only alternative is the total defeat of Russia, which seems staggeringly unlikely or the death of Putin which will obviously happen one day but we don't know who would replace him and either way that throw of the dice applies whether you seek peace or not

  24. #9974

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    The random number is a bit Wales Onliney, but this is an interesting list

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93np4y0343o

  25. #9975

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    Is this good or bad?


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