Online Privacy: A thing of the past

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Originally Posted by Penarth Blues

Sorry, but it is an utter disaster. It requires no imagination at all to realize how this will be abused in the not too distant future to suppress dissent - all in the name of the public good of course.

If you were designing a tool for the few to control the masses I can think of nothing more perfect.

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The masses have been controlled by a few since time began.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

The masses have been controlled by a few since time began.

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But never have they been allowed such insight into people's personal business.

And we're supposed to just 'trust' them with this info, as if they've done anything to earn that kind of trust.

The fact they've been surveilling the public for years illegally should be setting alarm bells ringing.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

But never have they been allowed such insight into people's personal business.

And we're supposed to just 'trust' them with this info, as if they've done anything to earn that kind of trust.

The fact they've been surveilling the public for years illegally should be setting alarm bells ringing.

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Trouble is though. The average man/woman/child in the street are really not bothered by it. They just swarm to social media sites like bees to a homey pot.
The majority of people in the world are pretty docile when it comes to being manipulated by higher powers and will accept many levels of abuse and tyranny from their governments without fighting back.
Maybe Ned Ludd was right all along!

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Originally Posted by Kris

In an ideal world, the data will only be accessed when there is a justification for it, and when access is required.

I was just reading about the terrible story of the low-life who left his son to die in a hot car in the US. It is an open and shut case, and some of the evidence that led to his conviction included nude photographs he sent at the time to some women, and an underage girl. Other evidence included Google searches on "How long does it take a child to die in a hot car" and something else (I have forgotten what).

This is an example of how the data used can help to convict people of crimes where, perhaps, it would have been difficult to prove that the child didn't die as a result of forgetfulness. If this is what the UK agencies are going to use the data for, then fair enough.

However, as I have pointed out, it is quite easy to misinterpret anyone's internet history to make them appear to be sick individuals who could be guilty of committing whatever crimes they need solved.

Also, it is possible that this data will get hacked, or go missing, or end up in the wrong hands.

If there is a potential that this data could be used to, say, jail an innocent person or to misrepresent a person - then I am absolutely opposed to it. Is "whofan" confident that the data being held cannot be misused at all?

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It was alleged in the trial (or reporting of the trial) but it seems that bit at least was not true. False news again or the MSM with an agenda? I'll go with 'false news':

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38215954

However, he has been convicted of murder and child sex crimes (exposed by the search of his online activities) so the arguments about personal privacy and finding online evidence of criminality are still captured by the case.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

But never have they been allowed such insight into people's personal business.

And we're supposed to just 'trust' them with this info, as if they've done anything to earn that kind of trust.

The fact they've been surveilling the public for years illegally should be setting alarm bells ringing.

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I forgot to ask, do you still think that Snowden leaking all that info to start with was in our interests?

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

I forgot to ask, do you still think that Snowden leaking all that info to start with was in our interests?

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OBJECTION! That's a leading question, your honour.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

OBJECTION! That's a leading question, your honour.

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:hehe: It was meant to be.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

:hehe: It was meant to be.

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:xmashehe:

Well I don't know, he seemed genuine but I know you have other ideas about him. Is he a sort of double-bluff?

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

:xmashehe:

Well I don't know, he seemed genuine but I know you have other ideas about him. Is he a sort of double-bluff?

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The way I see it, they couldn't really use any data without admitting that they have collected the data to start with so he just opened the door for them to make it legal, how else were they going to tell us? I can't imagine newspaper headlines saying "Guess what? we've been spying on you" :hehe: leaking it seems the obvious way.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

The way I see it, they couldn't really use any data without admitting that they have collected the data to start with so he just opened the door for them to make it legal, how else were they going to tell us? I can't imagine newspaper headlines saying "Guess what? we've been spying on you" :hehe: leaking it seems the obvious way.

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Tenna lady are good for leaks. :xmashehe::xmashehe:

European Court of Justice ruling today will hopefully lead to sensible safeguards for the "I've nothing to hide" brigade.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016...oopers-charter

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Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R

The way I see it, they couldn't really use any data without admitting that they have collected the data to start with so he just opened the door for them to make it legal, how else were they going to tell us? I can't imagine newspaper headlines saying "Guess what? we've been spying on you" :hehe: leaking it seems the obvious way.

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He's definitely a shill like you've always said. He didn't actually leak anything, but helped reinforce the panopticon.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Tenna lady are good for leaks. :xmashehe::xmashehe:

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Or, alternatively, two fiver ladies.