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Ah so you were being facetious, that didn’t come across in your post and almost seemed like you actually believed Biden was solely to blame for those incidents. Something that a self proclaimed “both sides” fence sitter wouldn’t believe in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Glad that’s been clarified.
Of course he wasn't solely to blame. That is my entire point. Some of you are fixated on Trump being awful for everything but do not apply the same logic to the others. I was trying to illustrate how ridiculous that stance is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Seems we got there in the end.
And I don't sit on the fence on this. I just think people who only see things in hyperbolic black and white terms are ridiculous. That's not the same thing.
You seem to believe all this nonsense about Trump the Nobel Peace Prize winner. All that has happened is that he has withdrawn the support previously given to Ukraine and, not only that the USA are now making Russia’s task easier for them thereby putting more lives at risk (American tourists were injured when the Ukrainian hotel they were staying in was bombed by Russia). America is now voting with the likes of Belarus and North Korea in UN votes condemning the Russian invasion - all Trump the peacemaker has done is changed which side his country is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Not at all, but I do welcome that he is talking about peace and I think that in turn leads to others doing so too, in a sense that the narrative has shifted somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I also view it as a requirement to speak to both sides to achieve it. I don't like his tone and language on it, but I think there's a bigger picture here and I think he can play a positive role there.
Peace. But at what cost?
Hitler could have pushed for peace after every single Jewish had been killed and Russia became a German province. Could he have qualified for the Nobel Peace Prize?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Trump is a tosser of the highest order and a very dangerous man
Firstly he and his lover boy slag off zelensky
Then yesterday after much background work by others he was saying he was optimistic of a " deal " ....on his and Russian terms obviously
Today he's commenting " I am finding it very hard to deal with Ukraine " in that pathetic , scowling way of his
A world statesman , washing dirty laundry in public like an old ponce
I cannot believe anyone is giving this moron slack , he's completely unpredictable and worryingly surrounded by other nutters
Probably if it was in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
100% I'm amazed people can't see through this tosspotQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
He’s talking about peace, but America have to be given valuable rare earth minerals, not required by the previous administration, for them to operate in the way they have done for the past three years. There’s a name for what Trump is now trying to enforce and it’s protection racket “ the gangsters who operate them are looking for peace as well, but only on their terms,Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Trump is just being Trump, he can’t help himself, but there are cowards in the Republican Party who have completely changed the nature of their public pronouncements on Ukraine to placate their unpredictable rogue President.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
'Agent Krasnov'? :sherlock:
Presumably Trump is also keen on Europe and UK taking the lead on the Gaza conflict too since we are nearer, oh wait...
Trump = Bone Spurs = Shit house = Putins kitchen because Putin knows the silly orange, narcissistic **** will look to 'make a deal' no matter what cost.
Don't get me wrong here, the war needs to end but at what cost, leaving a bullying **** putting it on everyone else around him?
I'm not fussed on Zelensky as it goes mind.
50 per cent tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium, or should that be aluminum, now :facepalm:
now back to 25%Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
we're always told that the markets like consistency and predictability, yet USA trade policy feels like it's being set by a wheel of fortune at the moment.
I wonder what tomorrow will bring
But when will those damn eggs see a cheaper price tag?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pastor-charged
The Texas megachurch founder and pastor Robert Morris has been indicted on five criminal counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child, from incidents that occurred in Oklahoma in the 1980s.
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Morris was a member of Donald Trump’s spiritual advisory committee and Evangelical Executive Advisory Board during his first presidential term and part of an effort to mobilize conservatives and evangelicals in support of Trump’s 2024 presidential bid. He also hosted an appearance by Trump at Gateway church in June 2020.
“So I want to thank Pastors Robert Morris and Steve Dulin. They’re great people,” Trump said at the appearance in 2020. Dulin, an elder at the church, resigned following an internal investigation of the abuse and how the church handled it. “Great people with a great reputation. I have to say that. Great reputation. And Gateway church – the team has been incredible in hosting us.”
So, common courtesy doesn't exist in your world because everybody could potentially be an undiscovered rapist, pedo, murderer, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
No need to bring Epstein into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Of course the Don didn't know who he was cuddling up to!
Of course he didn't. :hehe:
He didn't?
Maybe more about judgement and selected bed fellows than 'common courtesy'?
I'm guessing there are far more undiscovered wrong uns than those who have already been discovered, so what is the solution? Abandon civil society and move to a low trust society where everybody is guilty until proved innocent? Or maybe they should just make points scoring a criminal offence :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
No need to guess Gluey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Just triangulate - like I do.
You will get there in the end! :hehe:
Triangulation works, even if it takes 7 years for others to get it on some occasions!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
A certain section of pundits and thinkers seem to be ok with spreading unsubstantiated stories about democrats and liberal elites engaging in child trafficking and indecency.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Don't seem to like actual incidents being discussed when it's about their team!