Elon Musk

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Anyone fancy doing Musk’s “gesture” a few times over in the middle of town or in their workplace?

If not, why not?

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Good point :thumbup:

Worrying times

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

FYP

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mostly used by tictok users , reinstated by the nazi trump , still confused , what is a nazi?

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

mostly used by tictok users , reinstated by the nazi trump , still confused , what is a nazi?

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Keep up.

A nazi is someone who wants an inquiry into child grooming, someone who thinks Israel deserves to exist and someone who their opponent doesn't want to debate with anymore so they use it as a get out clause.

It is also a member of the now defunct NSDAP German National Socialist Workers Party, who haven't been taking members for 80 years now, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story!?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Keep up.

A nazi is someone who wants an inquiry into child grooming, someone who thinks Israel deserves to exist and someone who their opponent doesn't want to debate with anymore so they use it as a get out clause.

It is also a member of the now defunct NSDAP German National Socialist Workers Party, who haven't been taking members for 80 years now, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story!?

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You are really getting onboard the Farage bus.

Word perfect! :thumbup: :hehe:

Musk on tour!

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...astern-germany

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Keep up.

A nazi is someone who wants an inquiry into child grooming, someone who thinks Israel deserves to exist and someone who their opponent doesn't want to debate with anymore so they use it as a get out clause.

It is also a member of the now defunct NSDAP German National Socialist Workers Party, who haven't been taking members for 80 years now, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story!?

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i see , the grand muffti was a supporter of that mr hitler are muslims nazis, it's very confusing

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Keep up.

A nazi is someone who wants an inquiry into child grooming, someone who thinks Israel deserves to exist and someone who their opponent doesn't want to debate with anymore so they use it as a get out clause.

It is also a member of the now defunct NSDAP German National Socialist Workers Party, who haven't been taking members for 80 years now, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story!?

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Christ.

And you still maintain that you're not right wing?

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Christ.

And you still maintain that you're not right wing?

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what is a nazi ?

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Originally Posted by + the native hipster

what is a nazi ?

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Take a look in the mirror, might give you an idea.

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Take a look in the mirror, might give you an idea.

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so i am the only nazi ?

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Christ.

And you still maintain that you're not right wing?

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I'm taking the piss out of you, Jon et al Alun!

Highly unlikely there are any Nazis on this board. You really should find other things to talk about!

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Take a look in the mirror, might give you an idea.

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The mirror is a communist paper, not a Nazi one. That's the Sun, silly!

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Take a look in the mirror, might give you an idea.

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In all seriousness though, you do know what one is, right?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

In all seriousness though, you do know what one is, right?

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it's me !!! i am ''the nazi''

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Keep up.

A nazi is someone who wants an inquiry into child grooming, someone who thinks Israel deserves to exist and someone who their opponent doesn't want to debate with anymore so they use it as a get out clause.

It is also a member of the now defunct NSDAP German National Socialist Workers Party, who haven't been taking members for 80 years now, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story!?

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Each day it's getting a bit harder to fight that corner, isn't it?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...eidel-00200620

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Originally Posted by lardy

Each day it's getting a bit harder to fight that corner, isn't it?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...eidel-00200620

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We already know that you love the WEF and the EU Commission, which is quite surprising since you live in one of the most controlled countries in the world.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Each day it's getting a bit harder to fight that corner, isn't it?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...eidel-00200620

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No it isn't. That's what a Nazi is.

Surely you don't think Germans now should keep apologizing for crimes from 80 years ago? In which case every country would be apologizing for all of their history wouldnt they?

I'm something of a Germanophile, inch liebe Deutchsland, and in my experience they are extremely aware of the grotesque crimes that happened in the past. More so than some countries tbh.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No it isn't. That's what a Nazi is.

Surely you don't think Germans now should keep apologizing for crimes from 80 years ago? In which case every country would be apologizing for all of their history wouldnt they?

I'm something of a Germanophile, inch liebe Deutchsland, and in my experience they are extremely aware of the grotesque crimes that happened in the past. More so than some countries tbh.

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Nazi, fascist, far-right, etc., are all dual purpose attack vectors that are used to label and discredit opponents, which is wrong as it belittles their true meaning.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Nazi, fascist, far-right, etc., are all dual purpose attack vectors that are used to label and discredit opponents, which is wrong as it belittles their true meaning.

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You are correct that words should be used carefully.

Sometimes they are used very loosely - which annoys me. Words have meanings. There may be some scope to argue over the meaning but in these cases (across the political and social spectrum) they are too often just adopted as labels of abuse.

However, you and James and the Tommy Hipster (and Life On Mars when he was with us) go to the other extreme - and (Musk-like) deny any validity to thoughtfully used words that define political ideology or practice. You gut the language of meaning by denial instead of over-use. Just as bad!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

However, you and James and the Tommy Hipster (and Life On Mars when he was with us) go to the other extreme - and (Musk-like) deny any validity to thoughtfully used words that define political ideology or practice. You gut the language of meaning by denial instead of over-use. Just as bad!

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Rightly or wrongly, Musk is addressing the German people because he thinks the only other outcome will be a totalitarian AI surveillance state, and yes, it really is that simple.

BTW, if you mean Russia collusion, Hunter Biden Laptop, and the wet market covid origin, then I plead guilty!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Rightly or wrongly, Musk is addressing the German people because he thinks the only other outcome will be a totalitarian AI surveillance state, and yes, it really is that simple.

BTW, if you mean Russia collusion, Hunter Biden Laptop, and the wet market covid origin, then I plead guilty!

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If I had to name one person who more than anyone is driving 'a totalitarian AI surveillance state' it would be Elon Musk.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

If I had to name one person who more than anyone is driving 'a totalitarian AI surveillance state' it would be Elon Musk.

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Or it could be outsourced to BlackRock?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

If I had to name one person who more than anyone is driving 'a totalitarian AI surveillance state' it would be Elon Musk.

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It’s already being used with Heddlu De Cymru.

Stewart Lee using the fascist tag a bit loosely, but it's for comic effect (and very effective, and very funny) so it's allowed!

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...an-unholy-mess

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Originally Posted by jon1959

You are correct that words should be used carefully.

Sometimes they are used very loosely - which annoys me. Words have meanings. There may be some scope to argue over the meaning but in these cases (across the political and social spectrum) they are too often just adopted as labels of abuse.

However, you and James and the Tommy Hipster (and Life On Mars when he was with us) go to the other extreme - and (Musk-like) deny any validity to thoughtfully used words that define political ideology or practice. You gut the language of meaning by denial instead of over-use. Just as bad!

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Not sure you can realistically claim to be annoyed by the loose use of language and then in the very next paragraph accuse people of having "extreme" position.

You used my name so please point out where I taken anything to an extreme?

I've stated the literal meaning of a Nazi. Theres other language people can use but Nazi is very specific.

I've also said that no, I don't think Elon Musk is a fascist or a neo Nazi. Thats an opinion based on balance not selective information and it most certainly is not an extreme opinion in any way whatsoever.