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Originally Posted by blue matt

My brother-in-law does this, they went for 3 weeks this year, stayed in a villa, would get up at a holiday time say 9 am, have breakfast and then head to the parks, sometimes they arrived at lunch time, would moan like hell that the wait times were massive and it was too hot ( we were over there at the same time and it was hot, 36 C most days ) would ride 2 or 3 rides and head back to the pool at the Villa, then they would have a rest day and stay in the Villa :shrug::shrug:

Now we would rope drop at 7.30, get loads of rides done before they had even got in the car, when it got really hot head back to the resort pool or the room for a chill, wait for the afternoon storms to pass and head back in

now for me, the disney tickets are £500 ( be that a couple of days tickets from the US price or the UK 14 day ticket ) and its a massive waste just doing the odd day here the there, you pay all that money for the flights, for the park tickets you might aswell hammer it to death, I can rest at home, I dont travel all that way to rest

I know we are all different but its the only way I can ever see us doing it, and as for rest days, you rest on the 8 hr flight over and then the 8 hour fight home, thats enough rest

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Or better yet just sack the parks off completely and head down to the coast :thumbup: Far superior outing, Disney and Universal don't change enough to warrant a trip more than once every 5 years.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

My brother-in-law does this, they went for 3 weeks this year, stayed in a villa, would get up at a holiday time say 9 am, have breakfast and then head to the parks, sometimes they arrived at lunch time, would moan like hell that the wait times were massive and it was too hot ( we were over there at the same time and it was hot, 36 C most days ) would ride 2 or 3 rides and head back to the pool at the Villa, then they would have a rest day and stay in the Villa :shrug::shrug:

Now we would rope drop at 7.30, get loads of rides done before they had even got in the car, when it got really hot head back to the resort pool or the room for a chill, wait for the afternoon storms to pass and head back in

now for me, the disney tickets are £500 ( be that a couple of days tickets from the US price or the UK 14 day ticket ) and its a massive waste just doing the odd day here the there, you pay all that money for the flights, for the park tickets you might aswell hammer it to death, I can rest at home, I dont travel all that way to rest

I know we are all different but its the only way I can ever see us doing it, and as for rest days, you rest on the 8 hr flight over and then the 8 hour fight home, thats enough rest

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Agreed, we used to hit them very early and do all the best rides first before the queues using fast passes along the way, we used to buy the ultimate guide to Disney World, for the fastest, most efficient route to see as many of the best attractions as quickly as possible.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

My brother-in-law does this, they went for 3 weeks this year, stayed in a villa, would get up at a holiday time say 9 am, have breakfast and then head to the parks, sometimes they arrived at lunch time, would moan like hell that the wait times were massive and it was too hot ( we were over there at the same time and it was hot, 36 C most days ) would ride 2 or 3 rides and head back to the pool at the Villa, then they would have a rest day and stay in the Villa :shrug::shrug:

Now we would rope drop at 7.30, get loads of rides done before they had even got in the car, when it got really hot head back to the resort pool or the room for a chill, wait for the afternoon storms to pass and head back in

now for me, the disney tickets are £500 ( be that a couple of days tickets from the US price or the UK 14 day ticket ) and its a massive waste just doing the odd day here the there, you pay all that money for the flights, for the park tickets you might aswell hammer it to death, I can rest at home, I dont travel all that way to rest

I know we are all different but its the only way I can ever see us doing it, and as for rest days, you rest on the 8 hr flight over and then the 8 hour fight home, thats enough rest

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When you arrive in Florida the jet lag means your up at 5am so not taking advantage of that is daft. We were always at the gates early most days for rope drop, it was never so hot in mid October so it was all good. Like you say cane it in the morning and back to pool Pm.
I’d probably still do this even with a Villa, I don’t think I could do August heat and queues mind after having it so easy in the past.

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Originally Posted by goats

When you arrive in Florida the jet lag means your up at 5am so not taking advantage of that is daft. We were always at the gates early most days for rope drop, it was never so hot in mid October so it was all good. Like you say cane it in the morning and back to pool Pm.
I’d probably still do this even with a Villa, I don’t think I could do August heat and queues mind after having it so easy in the past.

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I don't think I've ever experienced jet lag traveling west. You're gaining time. It just takes a short adjustment.

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Originally Posted by goats

When you arrive in Florida the jet lag means your up at 5am so not taking advantage of that is daft. We were always at the gates early most days for rope drop, it was never so hot in mid October so it was all good. Like you say cane it in the morning and back to pool Pm.
I’d probably still do this even with a Villa, I don’t think I could do August heat and queues mind after having it so easy in the past.

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we have done Aug the last few years, it was 36 C a few times this year, thats Hot, we did LA aswell, now that was low 30's but its a dry heat, the Orlando Humidity is mental, I didnt realise till we flew from LA to Orlando and the temps were similar but such a different experience, when you leave the room at 7am and within 15 mins have sweat running down your back you know its hot

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I don't think I've ever experienced jet lag traveling west. You're gaining time. It just takes a short adjustment.

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we find 1st morning up at 5 am, 2nd morning 5 am, then 6 for 2/3 days and then its 7 (but we would be up then anyways to hit the parks, so we find its about 5 day

LA was similar though, we were out eating breakfast 4.30 am after going to bed at 10.30pm , so maybe its just you need 6 hours sleep :shrug:

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Originally Posted by goats

When you arrive in Florida the jet lag means your up at 5am so not taking advantage of that is daft. We were always at the gates early most days for rope drop, it was never so hot in mid October so it was all good. Like you say cane it in the morning and back to pool Pm.
I’d probably still do this even with a Villa, I don’t think I could do August heat and queues mind after having it so easy in the past.

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Get back on the plane and fly back home.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

I don't think I've ever experienced jet lag traveling west. You're gaining time. It just takes a short adjustment.

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Jet lag or adjusting to time difference/body clock. Whatever, we are always wandering about at 5am with plenty of other British arrivals…

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Originally Posted by goats

Jet lag or adjusting to time difference/body clock. Whatever, we are always wandering about at 5am with plenty of other British arrivals…

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:hehe::hehe: we were staying at Pop Century when the kids were young, went down to the food court about 5.30 am to heat up the little ones bottle , the food court wasnt open, sat around were maybe 10 British families waiting for the place to open at 6 :hehe: only other people around were the cleaners and a few people arriving for work

Christ, never once suffered flying west, what on earth are you all on about. Back to the UK fair enough but even then just sleep on the plane.

Just go back to sleep :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Christ, never once suffered flying west, what on earth are you all on about. Back to the UK fair enough but even then just sleep on the plane.

Just go back to sleep :hehe:

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Sleep on a plane? Yeah right….probably done 50/60 long haul flights and it’s yet to happen, even less chance with two young kids!

I have never understood the attraction of a monster commercial theme park that costs a fortune, is crowded, and acts as a money sucking machine for a giant corporation with a soiled past and a tacky present.

Maybe for the kids fed a diet of American cartoons and addicted to spin off stuff. But what is the draw for adults? A good number of posts in this thread (and the other ones Matt used to start of the years) suggest that accompanying kids are just an excuse for adults to deep dive into Walt’s empire.

Why? I must be missing something, but what is it?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I have never understood the attraction of a monster commercial theme park that costs a fortune, is crowded, and acts as a money sucking machine for a giant corporation with a soiled past and a tacky present.

Maybe for the kids fed a diet of American cartoons and addicted to spin off stuff. But what is the draw for adults? A good number of posts in this thread (and the other ones Matt used to start of the years) suggest that accompanying kids are just an excuse for adults to deep dive into Walt’s empire.

Why? I must be missing something, but what is it?

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You don’t like a rollercoaster ride? It’s come a long way since those “old type fair ground stuff” to be honest…..new types of experience like Avatar take you through places, Star Wars stuff at Hollywood studios too. Simpsons ride is still up there…
Some people only ever go on these types of holiday, some folk just go Tenerife, get shitted and sit by the pool…..others don’t even make it out of wales and talk about politics all the time….:sherlock::hehe:

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I have never understood the attraction of a monster commercial theme park that costs a fortune, is crowded, and acts as a money sucking machine for a giant corporation with a soiled past and a tacky present.

Maybe for the kids fed a diet of American cartoons and addicted to spin off stuff. But what is the draw for adults? A good number of posts in this thread (and the other ones Matt used to start of the years) suggest that accompanying kids are just an excuse for adults to deep dive into Walt’s empire.

Why? I must be missing something, but what is it?

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What holidays do you like that are so good?

If you haven't been, you probably wouldn't understand. That's like knobheads saying what's so good about watching a load of men kicking a little ball around for an hour and a half.

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Originally Posted by goats

You don’t like a rollercoaster ride? It’s come a long way since those “old type fair ground stuff” to be honest…..new types of experience like Avatar take you through places, Star Wars stuff at Hollywood studios too. Simpsons ride is still up there…
Some people only ever go on these types of holiday, some folk just go Tenerife, get shitted and sit by the pool…..others don’t even make it out of wales and talk about politics all the time….:sherlock::hehe:

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None of those options have got me hooked.

I know I was never the target audience for Disney - but I was genuinely interested to understand the attraction to people over the age of 12.

FWIW I am sitting with a beer looking out over the Sardinian coast at the blue sea after 16 days self driving around amazing scenery, historic sites, small villages with bars, restaurants and live music and other stuff a million miles from theme parks. Maybe we are all just wired differently.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

What holidays do you like that are so good?

If you haven't been, you probably wouldn't understand. That's like knobheads saying what's so good about watching a load of men kicking a little ball around for an hour and a half.

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No I don’t understand - which is why I asked. But no big deal - each to their own.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

None of those options have got me hooked.

I know I was never the target audience for Disney - but I was genuinely interested to understand the attraction to people over the age of 12.

FWIW I am sitting with a beer looking out over the Sardinian coast at the blue sea after 16 days self driving around amazing scenery, historic sites, small villages with bars, restaurants and live music and other stuff a million miles from theme parks. Maybe we are all just wired differently.

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I’ve done plenty of stuff like that all over the place, from Mexico to India, NZ to Big sur. variety is the spice of life. I reckon about 80% of my mates have no interest in football at all, only about 3 have ever been to see us. We are all different, you know that right?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

None of those options have got me hooked.

I know I was never the target audience for Disney - but I was genuinely interested to understand the attraction to people over the age of 12.

FWIW I am sitting with a beer looking out over the Sardinian coast at the blue sea after 16 days self driving around amazing scenery, historic sites, small villages with bars, restaurants and live music and other stuff a million miles from theme parks. Maybe we are all just wired differently.

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I know I was never the target audience for Disney - but I was genuinely interested to understand the attraction to people over the age of 12.
Funny, lots of people say this to me about supporting a football club:hehe:

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Originally Posted by jon1959

None of those options have got me hooked.

I know I was never the target audience for Disney - but I was genuinely interested to understand the attraction to people over the age of 12.

FWIW I am sitting with a beer looking out over the Sardinian coast at the blue sea after 16 days self driving around amazing scenery, historic sites, small villages with bars, restaurants and live music and other stuff a million miles from theme parks. Maybe we are all just wired differently.

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Adults who go to Disney without children, if I speak....... I am in big trouble.

Speaking For my family, We go for entertainment, fun, decent dining, its not that deep, maybe you are not that type of person, but each to there own, we are all different

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I have never understood the attraction of a monster commercial theme park that costs a fortune, is crowded, and acts as a money sucking machine for a giant corporation with a soiled past and a tacky present.

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near 50 million visitors to disney world a year, maybe they are not all wrong

sometimes its crowded, its been discussed in this thread how to avoid the crowds, it is expensive, but if people can afford it, its no drama

Im guessing with your dislike of Disney, you dont watch any of the films they make or any of the TV channels they own, which is a little blinkered, each to there own, we are all different

We know disney exists to make money for shareholders ( as do other corporations, coke cola for example, I hope on your Sardinian tour you havent had a coke, sprite or Fanta, wouldnt want to put money into a greedy giant corporation with its major issues to plastic pollution and the way in the US is has treated Blacks and people of colour over the years ) or a beer from any of the major brands, you dont want to look too much into who owns them or the past they have, Im pretty sure most bigger company has a not so pure ethical background


not sure what you think is its " tacky present " ?

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Maybe for the kids fed a diet of American cartoons and addicted to spin off stuff. But what is the draw for adults? A good number of posts in this thread (and the other ones Matt used to start of the years) suggest that accompanying kids are just an excuse for adults to deep dive into Walt’s empire.

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we have had the disney channel over here for years, now have disney plus, so you dont need to be American to be " fed a diet of American cartoons and addicted to spin off stuff " , its all about being entertained, they make money through entertainment, its not a secret

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Originally Posted by jon1959

FWIW I am sitting with a beer looking out over the Sardinian coast at the blue sea after 16 days self driving around amazing scenery, historic sites, small villages with bars, restaurants and live music and other stuff a million miles from theme parks. Maybe we are all just wired differently.

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thats cool, Im guessing by you posts here, even if you did go to disney ( and you won't ) you wouldnt like it anyway, save your money :thumbup: it'll free up a slot in a queue for people like me

Ive Backpacked around Europe, through Asia, around Austrailia, Ive seen them Blue Oceans while drinking a beer, Ive listened to Live music in Village Bars and eaten in restaurants, it was good, but its nothing to building a lightsaber or being the pilot and hitting the button that engages the Millennium Falcon hyperdrive or watching your kids faces light up when they meet Captain Hook or Sparrow, I could go on, but you either get it or you dont :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

thats cool, Im guessing by you posts here, even if you did go to disney ( and you won't ) you wouldnt like it anyway, save your money :thumbup: it'll free up a slot in a queue for people like me

Ive Backpacked around Europe, through Asia, around Austrailia, Ive seen them Blue Oceans while drinking a beer, Ive listened to Live music in Village Bars and eaten in restaurants, it was good, but its nothing to building a lightsaber or being the pilot and hitting the button that engages the Millennium Falcon hyperdrive or watching your kids faces light up when they meet Captain Hook or Sparrow, I could go on, but you either get it or you dont :thumbup:

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Yeah I think I’ve lost count of the amount of beers and other stuff I’ve sunk whilst looking at various oceans around the globe, it’s good but I think doing AK in the morning, getting an uber after lunch to Clearwater Beach and sinking a few beers watching the sunset was a pretty good day….:biggrin: