OH Angie Baby

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

There is plenty of schadenfreude on this thread, probably like most threads of a political nature.

Feeling better for someone’s misfortune or getting things wrong.
I posted a few questions to Cyril a little while back, which he answered eloquently…that related to this.

I can’t quite remember but I think my point in questioning was something along the lines of would you rather be wrong in your thinking for the greater good?
There is a a large chance, that isn’t how I put the question or how it was perceived.

Thing is now that politics has become one team against the other (with plenty of other people being left behind thinking WTF?) petty point scoring is what we have as a result.

Has the capability to yield or bend with the wind gone forever when lines have been so deeply drawn in the sand?

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The feeling of schadenfreude stems from the belief that she is a false prophet. She fervently condemned every minor, and in the case of the Tories, major, wrongdoing with the zeal of a puritanical preacher, presenting herself as pure and untainted by the greed, gluttony, and self-serving sins of the middle and upper classes. Ange was seen as a person on our side, standing against this entitled establishment.

We initially gave her the benefit of the doubt regarding her pre-government house-flipping, thinking, "I would do that, too." However, as the second-most important person in government, it took her less than a year to join the very ranks of the people she had so passionately condemned.

Her actions validated the quiet guilt felt by a son of a Llanedeyrn single parent who, after drifting away from the Labour Party for decades, wants to keep the money he worked and sacrificed so hard for to ensure his children and their children don't have to grow up like he did. Raynor's behavior simply confirmed that even the "purest" of people can succumb to this and she is a bit of a fraud.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

David Lammy is insufferable and I want Labour to do well

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They are all shocking, I dont think any of them , from starmer down are up to the job and are basically giving the keys of number 10 to a far right bunch of fruitcakes

Starmer , Reeves , Cooper , Lammy , Streeting , Powell , Rayner , Alexander, Kendal , completely useless

I would lynch the lot of them

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

They are all shocking, I dont think any of them , from starmer down are up to the job and are basically giving the keys of number 10 to a far right bunch of fruitcakes

Starmer , Reeves , Cooper , Lammy , Streeting , Powell , Rayner , Alexander, Kendal , completely useless

I would lynch the lot of them

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Put your list aside, look at the other parties who IMO are no different in that those at the top of each party are equally dislikeable, politics in the UK to keep it relevant is in a shocking state, i'm sure Ms. Raynor went into politics with a genuine desire to do well and show how someone from a background that most of us come from can achieve in life if dedicated and focused enough and as LLan BB above has alluded to, just fell into the swamp of greed in a very short period of time, i'm pretty sure many would follow suit given the opportunity to cream a little off the top when the carrot is dangled thinking that you would be insulated from being caught, Nigel Farage seems to be getting the treatment at the moment and it would appear that he's dodging tax albeit in a different legal (sic) tax avoidance scheme, where is this going to stop ? with the taxation system in the UK as is there will always be many looking to avoid paying it or reducing it, again its the root cause (excessive tax) that needs addressing, the age old solution of just taxing the rich more and more i don't think is the solution and just leads to tax avoidance via many schemes

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Originally Posted by Coyote

David Lammy is living proof you can have absolutely nothing going for you in intelligence or integrity and still succeed in politics.

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I think it's an great appointment.

Bump. Like I said, tax evasion and avoidance except he's a very middle class male. Pile on boys...

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Originally Posted by az city

Bump. Like I said, tax evasion and avoidance except he's a very middle class male. Pile on boys...

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He could be caught trying to shag the dead queen and reform voters wouldn't care

Hes just the vehicle

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Put your list aside, look at the other parties who IMO are no different in that those at the top of each party are equally dislikeable, politics in the UK to keep it relevant is in a shocking state, i'm sure Ms. Raynor went into politics with a genuine desire to do well and show how someone from a background that most of us come from can achieve in life if dedicated and focused enough and as LLan BB above has alluded to, just fell into the swamp of greed in a very short period of time, i'm pretty sure many would follow suit given the opportunity to cream a little off the top when the carrot is dangled thinking that you would be insulated from being caught, Nigel Farage seems to be getting the treatment at the moment and it would appear that he's dodging tax albeit in a different legal (sic) tax avoidance scheme, where is this going to stop ? with the taxation system in the UK as is there will always be many looking to avoid paying it or reducing it, again its the root cause (excessive tax) that needs addressing, the age old solution of just taxing the rich more and more i don't think is the solution and just leads to tax avoidance via many schemes

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They say AI will weed out the lot of them

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

There is plenty of schadenfreude on this thread, probably like most threads of a political nature.

Feeling better for someone’s misfortune or getting things wrong.
I posted a few questions to Cyril a little while back, which he answered eloquently…that related to this.

I can’t quite remember but I think my point in questioning was something along the lines of would you rather be wrong in your thinking for the greater good?
There is a a large chance, that isn’t how I put the question or how it was perceived.

Thing is now that politics has become one team against the other (with plenty of other people being left behind thinking WTF?) petty point scoring is what we have as a result.

Has the capability to yield or bend with the wind gone forever when lines have been so deeply drawn in the sand?

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Not really gloating at her misfortune moreover how holier than vow she was in the past, when really, given the chance, she’s just a wrong un like so many of them who think they can get away with anything…..like so many of the Tories…..I bet she’s gutted she’s going to miss out on so many back handers now for giving the go ahead to this and that, it’s what they do….serving the public? Yeah rightio