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In May 2024 Marine Le Pen and the French National Rally refused to sit with the German AfD in the European parliament. The AfD were too extreme for them and embroiled in a series of scandals where their leaders were sanitising the Nazi era.
She called for a 'cordon sanitaire' between the parties.
Elon Musk doesn't have the same concerns as Le Pen. In fact he is not only not concerned, he is admiring and totally supportive.
That's why I will never have anything to do with Denmark, Norway & Sweden after what the Vikings did.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
sorry johnny guniad i don't understand , you think words should have meaning , and yet you can't define, your idea that i want to ban words is laughable call me a nazi i don't care it means nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Odd response. We have defined the words ‘Nazi’, ‘fascist’, ‘far right’, ‘communist’, ‘far left’ and others to death on this board - over years and in recent months. I thought you wanting to open it up again was just a fishing trip. Sharing a rod with James and Gluey.Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
I have never said you want to ban words - and I don’t think you do.
I have gone out of my way to say I don’t think Trump, Netanyahu, Farage etc are fascists. But I think they all attract and enable fascists. I think your mate Yaxley-Lennon is. No idea if you are or not - but you do seem to be a fan.
I don't think we have done very well in getting to grips with the meaning of those words at all, given the extent the word Nazi is endlessly used, I also don't think we've seen any evidence of fascist opinions on here at all. No one seems to know what the word means, least of all those who throw it around!Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
You are obsessed with Yaxley-Lennon! I think you use his two names interchangeably just so you can talk about him twice as much!
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Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Double trouble!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
'rape genocide apologist' - he's just a genius expressing his opinion
'nazi' - how dare you throw that term around
clearly notQuote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
So Elon Musk did a Nazi salute, then he tried to deflect.
He then goes to Germany to speak to the neo-Nazi AfD party, which he's endorsed, saying Germany should let go of historical guilt (a dog whistle for Holocaust denial).
So Elon Musk is, in fact not a right wing facist fruit loop, he’s just a misunderstood loveable rogue.
And for those of you who say words don’t matter, this today from Auschwitz Museum.
“Auschwitz was at the end of a long process. We must remember that it did not start from gas chambers.
This hatred was gradually developed by humans. From ideas, words, stereotypes & prejudice through legal exclusion, dehumanization & escalating violence... to systematic and industrial murder.
Auschwitz took time”.
And finally, a tweet by him on 23/01
“Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations!
Some people will Goebbels anything down!
Stop Gőring your enemies!
His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!
Bet you did nazi that coming 😂”.
Joking about some of the people who committed some of the most heinous acts ever seen. Totally normal.
Not sure who you aim this at, but I'll answer anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
You've used a strawman argument there. No one has said he's a genius, not least for what he said about Starmer.
If you look here on the "other Musk thread" (cos we really need two!) I said on page 2:
"I completely disagree with him tweeting those things about Starmer and Jess Phillips"
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...t-labour/page2
I couldn't be clearer on that.
But surely you can understand; if you think it's outrageous to label someone a rape apologist (and it is!!) then it is even more outrageous to label someone a Nazi. Being tied to mass genocidal murder is worse than being an apologist for rape. They were arguably the worst people to walk the earth so people casually throwing the term around is simply not on. It's also, in my opinion, an absolute insult to the victims of Naziism to casually call people it all the time.
It's 80 years since the liberation of Auschwitz today. That should remind people of how serious the term is and to use it with less gay abandon to refer to people who say words they don't like or insult politicians they do like etc.
People really should find another term to use. It's completely inappropriate and crass.
How about the term of 'massive cuunt'?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Is that appropriate? I do concede it's probably a little crass.
Id go with pretty weird bellend, but sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
It's a matter of opinion but it sounds more accurate than some descriptions!
good to see you protesting the ''from the river to the sea'' marchesQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
What does this even mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
He’s an absolute far right , fascist lunatic.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/188575...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA
I can't see Elon Musk ever doing this (or Trump for that matter)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2p4p4l78zo
USAID!
Zelensky: "I only received $75 billion, the other $102 billion is missing!" :yikes:
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
What about it?
They've been audited against their will.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
I'm aware Trump wants to shut it down. How can this be a good thing? What am I missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Massive corruption?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo