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I've told you, feeling guilty perhaps, perhaps she would rather do a fair days work for a fair days pay rather than do little work for a fair days pay at the taxpayers expense but she can't afford to give the job up.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
If you’re actually interested in progress and some early issues encountered with the track and trace system it’s here: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news....y-two-11996729
Warning for xsnaggle - it includes some criticisms from semi-retired GPs and nurses who are contact tracers and were hoping to put their specialist skills to good use helping and advising the public. Hearing these senior clinicians say they’re not just happy to keep quiet and get paid for watching Netflix and doing their nails all day may tip you over the edge.
It won't bother me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Let me ask you a question. If someone gave you a job where they paid you about £25-27 an hour for doing nothing what would you do? (that's about £1000 a week btw)
£25 an hour? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
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Originally Posted by xsnaggle
£27 an hour now? By the end of the night, they'll be earning more than Tevez.
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Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
It is little surprise that the only thing to make your life interesting is to troll on here, looking for arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
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Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
£17.35 per hour for daytime shifts according to this job ad. You can see they are trying to recruit qualified healthcare professionals here not people looking to make a quick buck for doing naff all.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
https://www.indeed.co.uk/m/viewjob?j...b867&from=serp
Oh, you mean xsnaggle was making it all up again? What a shock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
A quote from the BBC article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
"One NHS job advert for a clinical contact tracer stated the role paid up to £27.15 per hour and described suitable applicants as nurses, dentists or vets, among others."
Her previous occupation falls into one of these catagories. She is a clinical tracer. But believe what you wish to believe. The BBC story is available if you want to go and check.
The BBC - but you said they were unreliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Also - note the word "CLINICAL" - types of people expected to apply include nurses, dentists and vets.
Others are on less than £10 an hour.
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Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
The rate xsnaggle quoted appears to be the premium Sunday and bank holiday hourly rate. It’s included in the job ad I linked.Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Is it? where did you discover that? Do you have the pay rates to show everybody? BTW I didn't quote it, the BBC did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
See previous post.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Thanks. I should tell the BBC but I can't be bothered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
So would you or would you not take the money and be happy? Or would you stick with your principles and resign?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
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Originally Posted by xsnaggle
now there's a tale!!! :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
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Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Well because this isn't a binary choice she faces, quit and spill the beans vs stay in the job and keep quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Have you thought that maybe her ideal outcome is to stay in the role and become busy and useful?
Is the right answer. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
She would have to be daft or irresponsible to either resign or keep quiet whilst the country's main public health initiative is operating so poorly. Good on her.
Absolutely, that would be the optimum result. But when it gets busy no doubt she will be busy. Lets be reasonable here. Most people would be quite happy to be paid and do less rather than be paid and do more. I like to be busy myself when I work but when it's not busy I don't feel the urge to broadcast it to the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
But you don't know it is operating so poorly, you just assume it is because she is not busy. someone said it was a waste of public money and I used the analogy of the the emergency hospitals. Because they have been grossly underused does that mean they were a waste of taxpayers money? She was employed as one of the number of operatives deemed likely to be needed if and when it gets busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Amazingly, you are not the barometer for the rest of the working population.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
I'm currently doing a full day's work but been reduced to 5 hours pay. Now, I could follow your example and quit, or laze around - or I can just knuckle down and help my company get through this. Even in normal times, at quiet periods I'd still be looking for ways to help the company. After all, they are paying my wages.
Fair point, but with respect this work is not as intrinsically skilled. People are doing it from home. You could argue that it would be quicker to get people online to work this role as and when demand warrants it, than it would be to suddenly increase hospital beds.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
It’s early doors but this article suggests only 38% of reported contacts of people diagnosed with Coronavirus were reached during the first few days of the new system. With a Government target of 80% for the system to be effective.
Hopefully just early bedding-in issues if correct: https://www.newscientist.com/article...-be-effective/
Despite chasing up, I didn't even get a result of my test which was over a month ago. No doubt I figured in the statistics of tests being carried out but it seems to have got lost in the system, a less than rare occurrence, I was advised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Will be great if you can have a test and a result within 24 hrs like be planned for end of June? Game changer?
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It's all relative but the UK's figures are shockingly bad.
I didn’t realise they sent 15000 oldies out of hospital into care homes back in March to free up space, thus infecting so many people in care homes which is half the deaths isn’t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
To highlight that it's a ridiculous situation and a waste of tax payers money.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Yeah they proper ****ed the care homes with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I think there is an agreement in place that Care homes have to take a certain number of old people leaving hospital treatment in order to get cetain government grants or monies. The problem was that when the pandemic broke that should have been suspended but local area medical authorities continued to make them take people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
This was evinced by the owner of that Care Home in the north East where there has been a disproportionate number of inmates dying. When she was interviewed she said something like "They kept phoning and asking if we had spaces and when I said yes but we didn't want to take them because of the virus, they told me if i didn't take them they would stop my funding."
It may have been local authorities doing it but they should have been told to suspend it by Central government.
Is the R figure above 1 in parts of Wales? The latest update of the Guardian's cases per 100,000 by local area table which shows rising rates and seven Welsh areas in the top eight suggests it is.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cases-near-you
The graph showing people in hospital with Covid-19 in Wales shows there has not been the decline that has been seen in other areas of the UK. Some of this may be down to a change in the methods of reporting. It looks, though, that there are more people in hospital with Covid-19 in Wales than there are in London. Considering density of population, plus the fact that the population of London is almost 3 times that of Wales, then easing the lockdown in some of those areas in your link is rightly being done more gradually in Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...er-coronavirus
I can see a flaw in the governments plan.