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Help the homeless this Christmas
Donate to the salvation army Christmas appeal
0800 028 4000
You know it makes sense
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Re: Help the homeless this Christmas
What percentage goes to the actual charity?
I would rather give a bag of food shopping to the local volunteers, and toys to the children homes, but best of luck Sludge.
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Re: Help the homeless this Christmas
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ninianclark
Im the same - give direct, I got stung once into helping a charity where less than 50% was actually spent on the charity - the rest went on office, admin,wage AND a tax debt.
"The Salvation Army figure is 92p in the £ goes direct to the delivery of caring services and the support of those services. 8 pence in your donated £1 is invested in fundraising to generate those funds. "
Always prefer to give to small local charities - as they always tend to miss out on the main money of the public
92 pence out of the pound you give goes direct to the delivery of caring services and the support of those services ?
Get on the phone ff sake !!
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J R Hartley
What percentage goes to the actual charity?
I would rather give a bag of food shopping to the local volunteers, and toys to the children homes, but best of luck Sludge.
Sounds like it 92 percent !!
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Re: Help the homeless this Christmas
This will upset you sludge. When addressing wealthy donors, Catherine Booth, the wife of the salvation army founder William Booth, promoted the Army as “the only organisation whose members to any appreciable extent buttonhole the dangerous classes on their own ground and turn them away from anarchy, infidelity and socialism".
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ian gibson
This will upset you sludge. When addressing wealthy donors, Catherine Booth, the wife of the salvation army founder William Booth, promoted the Army as “the only organisation whose members to any appreciable extent buttonhole the dangerous classes on their own ground and turn them away from anarchy, infidelity and socialism".
Thank god that was years ago
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Sounds like it 92 percent !!
I’ll stick a few quid in the collection and they come around with Santa and his sleigh.
Do they do that around your parts?
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J R Hartley
I’ll stick a few quid in the collection and they come around with Santa and his sleigh.
Do they do that around your parts?
The salvation army knock the doors here around Xmas , santa can feck off
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The salvation army knock the doors here around Xmas , santa can feck off
He won’t give you a lollipop with that attitude
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J R Hartley
He won’t give you a lollipop with that attitude
I can deal with the rejection
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I used to give to them all the time, buy the warcry, everything. They did a tremendous job in Aberfan supporting men working 20 hours a day.
Then I read a report that their accounrs general had embessled £4 million and they took several years to notice. He was convicted but of course they never got all the monay back.
I thoiught then that if they could be missing that amount and not notice they didn't need my 2 penneth.
Now I only give to the RNLI
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Re: Help the homeless this Christmas
If you are worried about where your money goes,how about donating to this local charity?http://www.llamau.org.uk/christmas-gift-appeal-2017/
I should declare an interest,as I work for them,but you can rest assured all donations will be passed on to the people we support:thumbup:
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Bruce Foxton
If you are worried about where your money goes,how about donating to this local charity?
http://www.llamau.org.uk/christmas-gift-appeal-2017/
I should declare an interest,as I work for them,but you can rest assured all donations will be passed on to the people we support:thumbup:
Christ I used to do loads of work with them when I worked in housing in Cardiff...93 to 95
Our project was based on Tudor road , below Cardiff single women's housing group , then we moved to city road , opposite the roath pub , we helped kids leaving care find housing and supported them to help them keep it , assisted with benefits etc
Small world
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Donate to the salvation army Christmas appeal
0800 028 4000
You know it makes sense
Or alternatively give the big issue seller your money.
That way you know it’s going to directly help the guy selling it.
Too many charities these days are paying big bucks to people ‘managing’ it.
Funnily enough, they don’t tell you that when they’re asking for your money.
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Dr Lecter
Or alternatively give the big issue seller your money.
That way you know it’s going to directly help the guy selling it.
Too many charities these days are paying big bucks to people ‘managing’ it.
Funnily enough, they don’t tell you that when they’re asking for your money.
I always give money to the big issue sellers , strictly speaking they are not supposed to accept it but I can't be arsed with the big issue it's a boring read
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xsnaggle
I used to give to them all the time, buy the warcry, everything. They did a tremendous job in Aberfan supporting men working 20 hours a day.
Then I read a report that their accounrs general had embessled £4 million and they took several years to notice. He was convicted but of course they never got all the monay back.
I thoiught then that if they could be missing that amount and not notice they didn't need my 2 penneth.
Now I only give to the RNLI
Doesn't the RNLI have a gargantuan financial surpuls?
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Taunton Blue Genie
Doesn't the RNLI have a gargantuan financial surpuls?
I don't give to cancer charities , heart charities etc for the same reason , they get well funded
I donate to the homeless , Alzheimer's and mental health
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Originally Posted by
Dr Lecter
Or alternatively give the big issue seller your money.
That way you know it’s going to directly help the guy selling it.
Too many charities these days are paying big bucks to people ‘managing’ it.
Funnily enough, they don’t tell you that when they’re asking for your money.
The Big Issue seller outside M&S in Llanishen must rake it in! On her expensive looking mobile phone last Saturday!
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Re: Help the homeless this Christmas
Charities are a massive industry. According to official government figures there's, wait for it, 167,000 registered charities.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ity-commission
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Christ I used to do loads of work with them when I worked in housing in Cardiff...93 to 95
Our project was based on Tudor road , below Cardiff single women's housing group , then we moved to city road , opposite the roath pub , we helped kids leaving care find housing and supported them to help them keep it , assisted with benefits etc
Small world
I'd love that type a job. Wouldn't know where to start though.
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Forest Green Bluebird
The Big Issue seller outside M&S in Llanishen must rake it in! On her expensive looking mobile phone last Saturday!
Pack in your dull 9-5 job and get eligible to sell Big issue then.
Luxuries await...
:tumbleweed:
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Forest Green Bluebird
The Big Issue seller outside M&S in Llanishen must rake it in! On her expensive looking mobile phone last Saturday!
She should be sat there in rags unwashed and not own a thing should she?
Maybe she's recently homeless..maybe she's good with wjat money she does get and doesn't waste it..
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dembethewarrior
I'd love that type a job. Wouldn't know where to start though.
Volunteer for a housing charity , lots of opportunities out there
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Organ Morgan.
And how many of them are genuine?
Beware of the scammers in shopping centres ... some make tidy sums by buying buckets and sticking pictures of badly treated dogs / animals etc on them.
Worse still are those who try to get you to sign up for a charity. Unsuspecting people may give their account details in good faith.
My old mum, God rest her soul, donated regularly to the RSPCA, initially via a Daily Mirror advert. Did a few checks on the junk mail she received from elsewhere and could not find any credible references. The amount of junk mail she received from other 'charities' who bought her details was alarming.
Some time last year I was stopped in Cheltenham high street by a bloke who wanted me to sign up for a particular charity ... £2 a month type of thing. I questioned him what % of my donation would get through to those that really needed it and he could not give an answer.
There are so many bona-fide charity shops around these days (Barnado's, Air Ambulance, Salvation Army) that would probably be the best place to go and be virtually certain that your donation is not going into a black hole.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Volunteer for a housing charity , lots of opportunities out there
Probably will in time.
Dont have the time at the moment, and I've got to get myself in order at the moment or I'll be no help to nobody.
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dembethewarrior
Probably will in time.
Dont have the time at the moment, and I've got to get myself in order at the moment or I'll be no help to nobody.
You will get there feller :thumbup:
As far as I can see, your heart is in the right place.
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
She should be sat there in rags unwashed and not own a thing should she?
Maybe she's recently homeless..maybe she's good with wjat money she does get and doesn't waste it..
Recently homeless - she's been a fixture for at least 3 years.
If someone is really that destitute then a mobile phone (of any description) is not something that she needs to advertise.
Perfectly entitled to life's little luxuries?
Many of these Big Issue sellers set up outside premium stores knowing that they can coax £20+ per hour from generous, largely middle aged / retired folks who prefer quality food items and a less stressful experience than shopping at the major stores.
Would like to view the CCTV to see if she gets into her car at the end of a shift.
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Forest Green Bluebird
Recently homeless - she's been a fixture for at least 3 years.
If someone is really that destitute then a mobile phone (of any description) is not something that she needs to advertise.
Perfectly entitled to life's little luxuries?
Many of these Big Issue sellers set up outside premium stores knowing that they can coax £20+ per hour from generous, largely middle aged / retired folks who prefer quality food items and a less stressful experience than shopping at the major stores.
Would like to view the CCTV to see if she gets into her car at the end of a shift.
I mentioned it as I have absolutely no knowledge on this woman at all.
I'm dubious as to whether people in my home town are genuinely homeless, it's not nice to be suspicious.
Probably not the best advertisement...but read this before judging her
Becoming a Big Issue vendor gives you the opportunity to sell the world’s best-known street paper in order to earn some cash.
If you are:
Homeless or rough sleeping
In temporary accommodation
In danger of losing a home
Unemployed and facing financial crisis
You can become a Big Issue vendor and start selling immediately.
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dembethewarrior
Probably will in time.
Dont have the time at the moment, and I've got to get myself in order at the moment or I'll be no help to nobody.
When you are ready,have a look at the Llamau website and look at the relief worker posts,it’s overnight in a supported housing project,but you get to sleep and the money is quite good-it will also give you experience for when a permanent position comes up.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Christ I used to do loads of work with them when I worked in housing in Cardiff...93 to 95
Our project was based on Tudor road , below Cardiff single women's housing group , then we moved to city road , opposite the roath pub , we helped kids leaving care find housing and supported them to help them keep it , assisted with benefits etc
Small world
That was back in the early days,before my time.Llamau has grown massively since then,unfortunately homelessness is a growth area.
I work with people at risk of losing their tenancy,and try and help them get back on track and make a success of independent living.Trouble is,we are getting more and more referrals through for people in temporary accommodation or sofa surfing and trying to find them somewhere to live,and as you would know Sludge,there is precious little accommodation out there.Very frustrating.
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Bruce Foxton
That was back in the early days,before my time.Llamau has grown massively since then,unfortunately homelessness is a growth area.
I work with people at risk of losing their tenancy,and try and help them get back on track and make a success of independent living.Trouble is,we are getting more and more referrals through for people in temporary accommodation or sofa surfing and trying to find them somewhere to live,and as you would know Sludge,there is precious little accommodation out there.Very frustrating.
The lack of decent , low cost rented housing for the vulnerable in society is a disgrace , as a support worker you will know it's not just finding somewhere to live for people , it's trying to ensure they keep it ......helping them with benefits , work , working with other agencies if they have substance misuse problems , mental health issues etc ..........keep up the good work mate !!!
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Originally Posted by
Forest Green Bluebird
Recently homeless - she's been a fixture for at least 3 years.
If someone is really that destitute then a mobile phone (of any description) is not something that she needs to advertise.
Perfectly entitled to life's little luxuries?
Many of these Big Issue sellers set up outside premium stores knowing that they can coax £20+ per hour from generous, largely middle aged / retired folks who prefer quality food items and a less stressful experience than shopping at the major stores.
Would like to view the CCTV to see if she gets into her car at the end of a shift.
Of course this applies to all big issue sellers doesn't it ?
Many of these big issue sellers .......?
Done a survey have you ?
What a small minded attitude , hand in hand with your views on sexuality in football
You sound like a great laugh
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The lack of decent , low cost rented housing for the vulnerable in society is a disgrace , as a support worker you will know it's not just finding somewhere to live for people , it's trying to ensure they keep it ......helping them with benefits , work , working with other agencies if they have substance misuse problems , mental health issues etc ..........keep up the good work mate !!!
Old Office Space has to be the solution to low cost temp accom, Near me on a commercial estate, a large call center has moved out ( about 5 years ago ) the site is 6 acres large, Most of that is a building ( all ground floor ) a central hub with spider legs coming of it, all with office space, the building is only 15 years old, now that would solve the homeless issue for the entire south west
use some of it for accom and the rest of it to get them back to work, a place that they can learn new skills, even do practical stuff
Society does not want to do it though, councils will say " we have no money " people will not want it on the doorstep ( its in the next town to me, so i will be ok :thumbup: )
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Originally Posted by
Bruce Foxton
When you are ready,have a look at the Llamau website and look at the relief worker posts,it’s overnight in a supported housing project,but you get to sleep and the money is quite good-it will also give you experience for when a permanent position comes up.
Will look into it in the new year, possibly nearer summer. Sure my mate was seeing a girl that worked for that company.
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blue matt
Old Office Space has to be the solution to low cost temp accom, Near me on a commercial estate, a large call center has moved out ( about 5 years ago ) the site is 6 acres large, Most of that is a building ( all ground floor ) a central hub with spider legs coming of it, all with office space, the building is only 15 years old, now that would solve the homeless issue for the entire south west
use some of it for accom and the rest of it to get them back to work, a place that they can learn new skills, even do practical stuff
Society does not want to do it though, councils will say " we have no money " people will not want it on the doorstep ( its in the next town to me, so i will be ok :thumbup: )
You got it mate
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
Old Office Space has to be the solution to low cost temp accom, Near me on a commercial estate, a large call center has moved out ( about 5 years ago ) the site is 6 acres large, Most of that is a building ( all ground floor ) a central hub with spider legs coming of it, all with office space, the building is only 15 years old, now that would solve the homeless issue for the entire south west
use some of it for accom and the rest of it to get them back to work, a place that they can learn new skills, even do practical stuff
Society does not want to do it though, councils will say " we have no money " people will not want it on the doorstep ( its in the next town to me, so i will be ok :thumbup: )
There is a place not far from me that has young homeless in accommodation, the people there were worried about house prices and anti social behaviour..I can kind of see where they are coming from as there were incidents reported regularly at one point..but they everyone needs a place to stay and society as a whole needs to pitch in.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You got it mate
If you need to see a old Office space being used to a great use for the community ( not homes though ) then look no further that " stokes croft " near the centre of Bristol, a Brilliant use of a space, a community cafe on the ground floor, then rental-able space up the floors
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Of course this applies to all big issue sellers doesn't it ?
Many of these big issue sellers .......?
Done a survey have you ?
What a small minded attitude , hand in hand with your views on sexuality in football
You sound like a great laugh
Oh, if only I could be like you, with all the respect you have on this board.
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I remember reading a report which said a third of Big Issue sellers are Romanian. I used to give the purchase price to a seller always stood outside Queen Street station until I saw him unwrapping 20 Embassy Regal. No-one and no charity has received a bean from me since so as to guarantee I don't get suckered for a second time.
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Originally Posted by
Forest Green Bluebird
Recently homeless - she's been a fixture for at least 3 years.
If someone is really that destitute then a mobile phone (of any description) is not something that she needs to advertise.
Perfectly entitled to life's little luxuries?
Many of these Big Issue sellers set up outside premium stores knowing that they can coax £20+ per hour from generous, largely middle aged / retired folks who prefer quality food items and a less stressful experience than shopping at the major stores.
Would like to view the CCTV to see if she gets into her car at the end of a shift.
FFS, swap places if its all so glamourous and rewarding eh? Piece of p1ss for you - you already know so much about it.