Emiliano Sala death: Pilot 'dropped out of commercial training'

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02-03-19, 08:14
Mr Soul '68

Emiliano Sala death: Pilot 'dropped out of commercial training'

More murky stuff to emerge from the tragedy. This is a sad story that will run and run

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47417434
02-03-19, 09:19
life on mars

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Lot if wriggling going on , why no comment from the original pilot , very shady ,very sad.
02-03-19, 10:59
Spooky Tree

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What stands out to me is the last part of that article. Where it says that the person or people organising the flight have let Sala down, as it was their responsibility to check the pilot was qualified and able to carry him as a passenger.

I'd assume this is why we are holding off payment to Nantes. If Mark McKay is the agent for Nantes and he didn't check everything was in order then it looks like he's at least partly liable. If you're in charge of flying an expensive footballer from one place to another you need to be damn sure everything is in order.
02-03-19, 11:03
splott parker

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Originally Posted by Spooky Tree

What stands out to me is the last part of that article. Where it says that the person or people organising the flight have let Sala down, as it was their responsibility to check the pilot was qualified and able to carry him as a passenger.

I'd assume this is why we are holding off payment to Nantes. If Mark McKay is the agent for Nantes and he didn't check everything was in order then it looks like he's at least partly liable. If you're in charge of flying an expensive footballer from one place to another you need to be damn sure everything is in order.

Or flying anyone regardless of who they are!!!
02-03-19, 11:05
Spooky Tree

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Or flying anyone regardless of who they are!!!

Yeah of course.
02-03-19, 11:29
Father Dougal

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Lot if wriggling going on , why no comment from the original pilot , very shady ,very sad.

The last comment from him was his comment he wasnt dead wasnt it?
02-03-19, 13:26
Bald Barry Bastad

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Henderson is the key to all of this. I've thought that from the start.
02-03-19, 16:57
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by rs3100

I might be reading this wrong but it seems that you’re saying that you wouldn’t want to be on a plane flown by shb. Are you saying he/she is not competent to fly?

I don’t think our friend Mr 46 is in any position to judge anyone’s flying capabilities :hehe:
02-03-19, 16:57
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

You sound a bit bitter Walt.

Not bitter, fed up with your arrogance & ignorance maybe.

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Well in terms of flying hours you certainly haven’t been doing any this week have you:sherlock:

Certainly not as many as you, but then again I never claimed I had :shrug: 3hrs is all this week

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Is the “PA46” in the hangar for maintenance ? :biggrin:

No, it is sitting ready to fly, ironically due to such a widespread knowledge now that the PA46 Malibu is what the accident aircraft was, punters are wanting to avoid flying in it.
02-03-19, 17:06
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

Not bitter, fed up with your arrogance & ignorance maybe.

Certainly not as many as you, but then again I never claimed I had :shrug: 3hrs is all this week

No, it is sitting ready to fly, ironically due to such a widespread knowledge now that the PA46 Malibu is what the accident aircraft was, punters are wanting to avoid flying in it.

The only ironic thing here is that there are no commercial operators of the PA46 in the country :sherlock:
02-03-19, 17:17
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

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I don’t think our friend Mr 46 is in any position to judge anyone’s flying capabilities :hehe:

That is for me to know & you to find out :thumbup:
To openly answer rs3100 You did read it wrong !!!..... I said " I am hoping you weren't ever an instructor at anywhere I have had a checkout or done a flight revalidation at? " it should have actually said "I am hoping you weren't ever an instructor at anywhere I have had a checkout or done a flight revalidation with?"

That is a reference to the facts that most flying instructors are lowtime pilots building hours for the chance to get into an airline pilot career, during their lowtime hour building they sometimes are tasked with completing the 1hr instructional flight for a pilot who is more experienced than them for their revalidation purposes.

I can grab any flying instructor to sit alongside me in the PA46 or whatever & be legal with the 1hr instructional flight documented when I get the next CofE signed off. Most instructors have never been near a complex aircraft because the only really know the simple trainers as that is their day to day buggy.

I was just enquiring where he did instruct? for all I know we might know each other, I asked about which airline he flew for because I am guessing he is a Virgin pilot?
02-03-19, 17:25
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

The only ironic thing here is that there are no commercial operators of the PA46 in the country :sherlock:

Again an assumption that we are a commercial operator in this country, you already know it isn't a Golf registered PA46 because that has already been stated so why assume it is on a UK AOC?

As it is I am not going to get into your DEBATING because I don't need to justify anything to do with our operations ( especially not at a time when SEP & SET operations are being scrutinized with a finetooth comb.)
02-03-19, 17:43
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

Again an assumption that we are a commercial operator in this country, you already know it isn't a Golf registered PA46 because that has already been stated so why assume it is on a UK AOC?

As it is I am not going to get into your DEBATING because I don't need to justify anything to do with our operations ( especially not at a time when SEP & SET operations are being scrutinized with a finetooth comb.)

No Probs Walt.

Whose reg is it on ? .......one of those dodgy tax haven ones ?

Your story doesn’t stack up old chap.

let’s just hope your not getting involved in any “grey” charter activity as well then :sherlock:

Ps SEP & SET have been clearly defined by EASA since 2014.
02-03-19, 17:44
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

That is for me to know & you to find out :thumbup:
To openly answer rs3100 You did read it wrong !!!..... I said " I am hoping you weren't ever an instructor at anywhere I have had a checkout or done a flight revalidation at? " it should have actually said "I am hoping you weren't ever an instructor at anywhere I have had a checkout or done a flight revalidation with?"

That is a reference to the facts that most flying instructors are lowtime pilots building hours for the chance to get into an airline pilot career, during their lowtime hour building they sometimes are tasked with completing the 1hr instructional flight for a pilot who is more experienced than them for their revalidation purposes.

I can grab any flying instructor to sit alongside me in the PA46 or whatever & be legal with the 1hr instructional flight documented when I get the next CofE signed off. Most instructors have never been near a complex aircraft because the only really know the simple trainers as that is their day to day buggy.

I was just enquiring where he did instruct? for all I know we might know each other, I asked about which airline he flew for because I am guessing he is a Virgin pilot?

Multi engine IR Instructor.....:thumbup:
02-03-19, 18:04
delmbox

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Watching Sky High Bluebird ruin Flyer46 over and over again is hilarious but also slightly painful to watch :hehe:
02-03-19, 18:07
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Watching Sky High Bluebird ruin Flyer46 over and over again is hilarious but also slightly painful to watch :hehe:

It Takes away the pain of yet another drubbing :biggrin:
02-03-19, 18:14
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

No Probs Walt.

Whose reg is it on ? .......one of those dodgy tax haven ones ?

Your story doesn’t stack up old chap.

let’s just hope your not getting involved in any “grey” charter activity as well then :sherlock:

Ps SEP & SET have been clearly defined by EASA since 2014.

SHB,
Unlike McKay I am not going to try to justify everything to try to look squeaky clean.
What I can say is that after the Sala incident we ( as well as others ) have had to sharpen up on a fair few things in terms of how we operate.
Even the FAA registered Eclipse Jet flight that safely flew Sala to Cardiff was whilst supposedly on a AOC now been deemed as a “grey” charter activity.
Even the FAA registered Malibu DLX flight that safely flew Sala's agent from Cardiff after Sala had signed was whilst supposedly on a AOC now been deemed as a “grey” charter activity.

You & I will never see eye to eye or be inclined to agree on anything, so it might be better if we both keep our opinions on each other to ourselves.
02-03-19, 18:22
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

It Takes away the pain of yet another drubbing :biggrin:

There lies your problem :facepalm: You need to find something to make you feel better after a drubbing :tumbleweed:
I don't need to find something to make me feel better because I am happy with life & not swayed by what a football team does.

My boss seems to be a bit like you in as much as his mood changes when a certain team don't win, today his team managed a draw.
02-03-19, 18:31
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

SHB,
Unlike McKay I am not going to try to justify everything to try to look squeaky clean.
What I can say is that after the Sala incident we ( as well as others ) have had to sharpen up on a fair few things in terms of how we operate.
Even the FAA registered Eclipse Jet flight that safely flew Sala to Cardiff was whilst supposedly on a AOC now been deemed as a “grey” charter activity.
Even the FAA registered Malibu DLX flight that safely flew Sala's agent from Cardiff after Sala had signed was whilst supposedly on a AOC now been deemed as a “grey” charter activity.

You & I will never see eye to eye or be inclined to agree on anything, so it might be better if we both keep our opinions on each other to ourselves.

Too many holes in your story old boy.

There are no commercial operators in Europe of the PA46.

Likewise no european operator has sought the permission of the FAA to operate the aircraft on a commercial AOC....BECAUSE THERE ARENT ANY.

No one flies it dual crew as you claimed in an earlier post...because it’s certified for single crew only.

Sharpen up what exactly ?.... in a previous post you claimed your operation was a full EASA AOC.....Another tall tale I presume.

Your whole story is a figment of your admittedly creative imagination.
02-03-19, 18:32
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

There lies your problem :facepalm: You need to find something to make you feel better after a drubbing :tumbleweed:
I don't need to find something to make me feel better because I am happy with life & not swayed by what a football team does.

My boss seems to be a bit like you in as much as his mood changes when a certain team don't win, today his team managed a draw.

I think your fundamental problem is a lack of a sense of humour......and maybe Aspergers :wave:
02-03-19, 21:55
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Too many holes in your story old boy.

No holes in my story :sherlock: The whole thing is watertight.

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

There are no commercial operators in Europe of the PA46.

Really? There are quite a few PA46's being operated by commecial operators in Europe, so you got that wrong :wave: Trust me you don't know everything though you like to think you do !!!

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Likewise no european operator has sought the permission of the FAA to operate the aircraft on a commercial AOC....BECAUSE THERE ARENT ANY.

You might not know of any, but there are quite a few that are being operated with FAA registrations purporting to be on AOC's...see: This is the operator of the Malibu that Sala's agent used, so explain how they operate it commercially whilst being FAA registered? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11305530

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

No one flies it dual crew as you claimed in an earlier post...because it’s certified for single crew only.

Certified for single crew doesn't stop anyone opting for a co-pilot as an added bonus when carrying passengers, I did say we do both Single crew & dual crew so there are a few holes in your argument.

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Sharpen up what exactly ?.... in a previous post you claimed your operation was a full EASA AOC.....Another tall tale I presume.

Did I not say " we had to sharpen up our act ( as have others ) " When someone looks close enough, they can always find something that isn't fully compliant & suggest a change to get full compliance.

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Your whole story is a figment of your admittedly creative imagination.

I only have your word for it that you fly an Airbus, for all I know you could be the local Cardiff tramp, but I take everyone on what they tell me because it won't change my life if you are the local tramp or the HEAD BUCK CAT at Virgin Airways.

For all I know, you could be Brian Mitchell (TRE) of Virgin ( except he isn't as argumentive as you are :ayatollah: ).

Thanks for brightening up a somewhat dreary evening.
02-03-19, 23:29
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

No holes in my story :sherlock: The whole thing is watertight.

Really? There are quite a few PA46's being operated by commecial operators in Europe, so you got that wrong :wave: Trust me you don't know everything though you like to think you do !!!

You might not know of any, but there are quite a few that are being operated with FAA registrations purporting to be on AOC's...see: This is the operator of the Malibu that Sala's agent used, so explain how they operate it commercially whilst being FAA registered? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11305530

Certified for single crew doesn't stop anyone opting for a co-pilot as an added bonus when carrying passengers, I did say we do both Single crew & dual crew so there are a few holes in your argument.

Did I not say " we had to sharpen up our act ( as have others ) " When someone looks close enough, they can always find something that isn't fully compliant & suggest a change to get full compliance.

I only have your word for it that you fly an Airbus, for all I know you could be the local Cardiff tramp, but I take everyone on what they tell me because it won't change my life if you are the local tramp or the HEAD BUCK CAT at Virgin Airways.

For all I know, you could be Brian Mitchell (TRE) of Virgin ( except he isn't as argumentive as you are :ayatollah: ).

Thanks for brightening up a somewhat dreary evening.

Is that the best you can do from your google search :-)

Yet you seem to be unable to name any such operators.

Altacara Aviation aren’t an AOC are they Walt ?

They are a one man shell company belonging to a London restauranter , quite common for aircraft owners,
But not for a commercial AOC.

As for sharpening up your act you are now publicly admitting that prior to the sala incident the “company”
You work for was involved in sharp practices with regards commercial flying activities............interesting !!

Im beginning to think you don’t really thoroughly understand your cut & paste nonsense.

Ps don’t know who Mr Mitchell is and I suspect you don’t but he does come up on a LinkedIn search for top 25 pilot profiles at Virgin Atlantic. :thumbup:
03-03-19, 00:22
Father Dougal

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Is that the best you can do from your google search :-)

Yet you seem to be unable to name any such operators.

Altacara Aviation aren’t an AOC are they Walt ?

They are a one man shell company belonging to a London restauranter , quite common for aircraft owners,
But not for a commercial AOC.

As for sharpening up your act you are now publicly admitting that prior to the sala incident the “company”
You work for was involved in sharp practices with regards commercial flying activities............interesting !!

Im beginning to think you don’t really thoroughly understand your cut & paste nonsense.

Ps don’t know who Mr Mitchell is and I suspect you don’t but he does come up on a LinkedIn search for top 25 pilot profiles at Virgin Atlantic. :thumbup:

Brian mitchell you say? He must have been with virgin about 20 years now? If memory serves me he was a communications pilot before that for a bit?

Good lad brian. Easy to get along with.

Ben millar and tony ash are good guys aswell.
03-03-19, 00:27
Baloo

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Say hello to Sebastian Butler for me.
03-03-19, 00:38
Sky High Bluebird

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And not forgetting Katherine Hodge.......Lovely lady apparently .... :thumbup:
03-03-19, 00:47
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

Is that the best you can do from your google search :-)

Yet you seem to be unable to name any such operators.

Altacara Aviation aren’t an AOC are they Walt ?

They are a one man shell company belonging to a London restauranter , quite common for aircraft owners,
But not for a commercial AOC.

As for sharpening up your act you are now publicly admitting that prior to the sala incident the “company”
You work for was involved in sharp practices with regards commercial flying activities............interesting !!

Im beginning to think you don’t really thoroughly understand your cut & paste nonsense.

Ps don’t know who Mr Mitchell is and I suspect you don’t but he does come up on a LinkedIn search for top 25 pilot profiles at Virgin Atlantic. :thumbup:

There seems to be a bit of disparity in your position in the A340 Pecking order....if you don't know Brian Mitchell...you ain't anyone !!!!

Even Father Doogal knows Brian Mitchell, so I think for you it's time for bed :facepalm:

`Hello children. It s a quarter to six. Time today. for Magic Roundabout...` `I wonder where Florence is?` ,said Dougal. `I m over here.` ,said Florence. `Hello, Florence.` ,said Dougal. `Hello, Dougal.` ,said Florence. `Boing!` `Hello, Florence and Dougal.` ,said Zebadee. `Hello, Zebadee.` ,said Dougal and Florence. `Hello, Zebadee, Florence and Dougal.` ,said Dillon. `Hello, Dillon.` ,said Zebadee, Florence and Dougal. `I say,` ,said Dillon. `What?` ,said Dougal. `Booinngg!` `Pardon?` ,said Zebadee. `Nothing.` ,Said Dougal. `I wasn't talking to you.` ,said Zebadee. `Oh.` ,Said Dougal. `Dillon.` ,said Dougal. `Yes.` ,said Dillon. `I wonder if Florence is a virgin?` `Drops 'em for certain.` ,said Dillon. `Booinngg!` `That s right enough.` ,said Zebadee. `How do you know?` ,said Dillon. `Booinngg!` `To my knowledge half of Toytown knows of her hori- zontal pleasures. Let s face it, Noddy's the biggest ram round here and he reckons he's scored.` ,said Zebadee. `I can hear you.` ,said Florence. `It s not true. Noddy and I are just good friends.` `Rubbish` ,said Dougal. `It s all over the canteen. Anyone knows about you, you brazen hussy.` `You lousy old flea-bag` ,said Florence. `Call yourself a dog? I've seen better hair on a lavatory brush!.` `Booinngg!!` `Now look here` ,said Zebadee. `Things are getting out of hand. Let's get back to the story-line!.` `It's a crummy story anyway` ,said Dillon stubbornly. `Booinngg!` `No, it's not` ,said Zebadee commandingly. `Who cares?` ,said Dillon dejectedly. `Well, I like it` ,said Florence, hopefully. `Ihat's obvious!` ,said everybody, cockily. `Booinngg!` `Now look` ,said Zebadee, `let's try and get it together.` `Well, I'm not working for that fat-bat any more` ,said Dougal. `I'm off to join the Flowerpot men.` `Good riddance` ,said Florence. `Knickers!` ,said Dougal. `Ihat's no way to talk to a lady` ,said Dillon (knowing he's on to a good thing). `Some lady!` ,said Dougal. `Oh, piss off` ,said Dillon. And Dougal did so, all over Florence. `Thank you for sticking up for me` ,said Florence. `Oh, it's nothing, really` ,said Dillon. `You know I've fancied you for a long time` ,said Florence. `I've fancied you too` ,said Dillon. `Where do we go from here?` ,said Florence. `Booinngg!!!`
03-03-19, 01:07
Sky High Bluebird

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:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

There seems to be a bit of disparity in your position in the A340 Pecking order....if you don't know Brian Mitchell...you ain't anyone !!!!

Even Father Doogal knows Brian Mitchell, so I think for you it's time for bed :facepalm:

`Hello children. It s a quarter to six. Time today. for Magic Roundabout...` `I wonder where Florence is?` ,said Dougal. `I m over here.` ,said Florence. `Hello, Florence.` ,said Dougal. `Hello, Dougal.` ,said Florence. `Boing!` `Hello, Florence and Dougal.` ,said Zebadee. `Hello, Zebadee.` ,said Dougal and Florence. `Hello, Zebadee, Florence and Dougal.` ,said Dillon. `Hello, Dillon.` ,said Zebadee, Florence and Dougal. `I say,` ,said Dillon. `What?` ,said Dougal. `Booinngg!` `Pardon?` ,said Zebadee. `Nothing.` ,Said Dougal. `I wasn't talking to you.` ,said Zebadee. `Oh.` ,Said Dougal. `Dillon.` ,said Dougal. `Yes.` ,said Dillon. `I wonder if Florence is a virgin?` `Drops 'em for certain.` ,said Dillon. `Booinngg!` `That s right enough.` ,said Zebadee. `How do you know?` ,said Dillon. `Booinngg!` `To my knowledge half of Toytown knows of her hori- zontal pleasures. Let s face it, Noddy's the biggest ram round here and he reckons he's scored.` ,said Zebadee. `I can hear you.` ,said Florence. `It s not true. Noddy and I are just good friends.` `Rubbish` ,said Dougal. `It s all over the canteen. Anyone knows about you, you brazen hussy.` `You lousy old flea-bag` ,said Florence. `Call yourself a dog? I've seen better hair on a lavatory brush!.` `Booinngg!!` `Now look here` ,said Zebadee. `Things are getting out of hand. Let's get back to the story-line!.` `It's a crummy story anyway` ,said Dillon stubbornly. `Booinngg!` `No, it's not` ,said Zebadee commandingly. `Who cares?` ,said Dillon dejectedly. `Well, I like it` ,said Florence, hopefully. `Ihat's obvious!` ,said everybody, cockily. `Booinngg!` `Now look` ,said Zebadee, `let's try and get it together.` `Well, I'm not working for that fat-bat any more` ,said Dougal. `I'm off to join the Flowerpot men.` `Good riddance` ,said Florence. `Knickers!` ,said Dougal. `Ihat's no way to talk to a lady` ,said Dillon (knowing he's on to a good thing). `Some lady!` ,said Dougal. `Oh, piss off` ,said Dillon. And Dougal did so, all over Florence. `Thank you for sticking up for me` ,said Florence. `Oh, it's nothing, really` ,said Dillon. `You know I've fancied you for a long time` ,said Florence. `I've fancied you too` ,said Dillon. `Where do we go from here?` ,said Florence. `Booinngg!!!`

Wrong airline old son.

Did you learn your Dougal impression from your mate Jim Meskimen ? :sherlock::thumbup:
03-03-19, 01:24
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird

:sherlock:

Wrong airline old son.

Did you learn your Dougal impression from your mate Jim Meskimen ? :sherlock::thumbup:

So, you don't fly a UK registered A340 then?
Jim Meskimen was nothing to do with Magic Roundabout as far as I know.

Anyway, it matters not as we will never be on the same page on anything.
03-03-19, 10:55
Sky High Bluebird

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Originally Posted by Flyer46

So, you don't fly a UK registered A340 then?
Jim Meskimen was nothing to do with Magic Roundabout as far as I know.

Anyway, it matters not as we will never be on the same page on anything.

Ask Jim next time you interview him :thumbup::sherlock:
03-03-19, 10:58
life on mars

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How could anyone turn this serious post into a point scoring slanging match,is beyond me , it somes up todays keyboard society .
03-03-19, 11:58
Vindec

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Originally Posted by life on mars

How could anyone turn this serious post into a point scoring slanging match,is beyond me , it somes up todays keyboard society .

It makes uncomfortable reading to me. How two seemingly intelligent individuals can resort to such exchanges is beyond me. It does neither of them any credit.
03-03-19, 13:07
Flyer46

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Originally Posted by Vindec

It makes uncomfortable reading to me. How two seemingly intelligent individuals can resort to such exchanges is beyond me. It does neither of them any credit.

Vindec,
I have been trying to quell the subject but Sky High Bluebird is like a 'dog with a bone' he just won't let go ( even though he realises that the bone has a bad taste about it )
I am equally as bad because whilst someone is gnawing at the 'bone' I will always throw it further away for them to 'retrieve'.

I am tired of throwing the bone further away each time, so I am quitting throwing the bone for SHB.