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Climate 'nut jobs' locked up
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
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Originally Posted by
Taffy Blue in Berkshire
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.
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Originally Posted by
az city
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.
Playing the devils advocate, what if the climate crisis isn't as bad as what they are making it out to be? The same people got a lot of covid wrong.
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an alternative view from real scientists not the WEF puppets that control the media
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former UK MEP, Godfrey Bloom, breaks down the totalitarian Net Zero scam in layman's terms.<br><br>Original video: <a href="https://t.co/qWs4ZirAmS">https://t.co/qWs4ZirAmS</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cli mateScam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateCult?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cli mateCult</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NetZero?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NetZero </a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Agenda 21</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda2030?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Agen da2030</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GreatReset?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Grea tReset</a> <a href="https://t.co/uOIfrHRatO">pic.twitter.com/uOIfrHRatO</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1647162092716425217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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MOZZER2
an alternative view from real scientists not the WEF puppets that control the media
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Cui bono?
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more scientists having there say
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">500 scientists declare no climate emergency. Letter sent to UN .. It’s one of the biggest scams in history all for the agenda .. Have a watch and share please <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cli mateScam</a> <a href="https://t.co/PtIkR66zcM">pic.twitter.com/PtIkR66zcM</a></p>— Sean collins (@SeanCollins66) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanCollins66/status/1646583183348039681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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MOZZER2
more scientists having there say
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While covid had people on the ropes, the climate regulations will deliver the knockout blow, and I don't think the majority of people have realised that yet. Interesting times ahead ...
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new york going flat out to appease Klaus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New York Mayor Eric Adams declares war on meat and dairy to save the planet !<br>We see what your doing Mike <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronnutition?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#w aronnutition</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronfood?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#waron food</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronfarming?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wa ronfarming</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NoFarmersNoFood?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> #NoFarmersNoFood</a> <a href="https://t.co/jHAbUoFt0k">pic.twitter.com/jHAbUoFt0k</a></p>— Irish Farmers,Food & Family Channel ( Telegram ) (@IreFarmers) <a href="https://twitter.com/IreFarmers/status/1649361452279406593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Originally Posted by
Taffy Blue in Berkshire
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
Good to see.
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The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
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JamesWales
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
That's idiocy. Do you know what "existential" actually means?
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
BTW, thanks for the usual one-eyed establishment bore.
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Here come the climate change deniers.
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I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
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Originally Posted by
az city
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.
If humans still exist:hehe:. I’m sure the banks think they will what with 40 year mortgages being available :hehe:
Here’s a timeline
1960’s - Oil Gone in 10 years
1970’s - Another Ice Age in 10 years
1980’s - Acid Rain will destroy all crops
1990’s - The Ozone Layer will be gone in 10 years
2000’s - Ice Caps will be gone
I know one thing most of these predictions ( computer modelling) has resulted in more taxes.
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TWGL1
If humans still exist:hehe:. I’m sure the banks think they will what with 40 year mortgages being available :hehe:
Here’s a timeline
1960’s - Oil Gone in 10 years
1970’s - Another Ice Age in 10 years
1980’s - Acid Rain will destroy all crops
1990’s - The Ozone Layer will be gone in 10 years
2000’s - Ice Caps will be gone
I know one thing most of these predictions ( computer modelling) has resulted in more taxes.
The ozone layer didn't go because humanity worked together to stop emissions of chemicals. This is something we aren't doing really for climate change.
The ice caps are melting at a rapid rate. We will see summers without any Ice in the north pole in my lifetime.
Oceans and lakes are acidifying, the effects of that will be catastrophic.
Is it any wonder why gen z and millenials are so so frustrated with boomers?
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
Bit harsh that, I'm sure they'll get round to answering your question eventually, just give them a decade or two.
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az city
BTW, thanks for the usual one-eyed establishment bore.
It's not being an establishment bore. Quite the opposite, I am nothing of the sort.
It's just pointing out that I think your analogy was really quite bad. Youve come back anf ignored the points and played the man as usual
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.
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Doucas
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.
No, I entirely believe climate change is happening, and is a really important issue, and it should be taken forward by sensible people not by Hooray Henry's glueing themselves to the trains and bridges people use to go about their lives.
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[QUOTE=Doucas;5414036]This is mental.
[Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists]
Centrists- right wingers too cowardly to admit they are right wingers.?
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[QUOTE=Hilts;5414065]
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
This is mental.
[Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists]
Centrists- right wingers too cowardly to admit they are right wingers.?
What's your "left wing" approach to addressing climate change, Hilts?
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.
Climate change has been happening in recurring warming and cooling cycles since the world began, and long before humans set foot on the planet.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
The ozone layer didn't go because humanity worked together to stop emissions of chemicals. This is something we aren't doing really for climate change.
The ice caps are melting at a rapid rate. We will see summers without any Ice in the north pole in my lifetime.
Oceans and lakes are acidifying, the effects of that will be catastrophic.
Is it any wonder why gen z and millenials are so so frustrated with boomers?
According to the modelling its appears this may be the case, but it’s modelling. They said the Great Barrier Reef would disappear however contrary to the modelling it’s thriving.
10 polluters
China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2.
India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2.
Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2.
Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2.
Germany, 759 million tons of CO2.
Iran, 720 million tons of CO2.
These are the countries that we need to focus on before we take drastic action here.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
Still waiting for an answer to this. I know you deniers have seen it.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
Still waiting for an answer to this. I know you deniers have seen it.
You probably framed the question wrong. It's like asking everyone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.
To answer the question is to be a climate denier. Very few are.
What is the case is that some people probably have different opinions to you on how to best deal with it.
For example, if you don't think people should be prosecuted for vandalism or serious disruption to others lives, I would suggest you are setting back the climate agenda, not helping it. That's a reasonable position and is taken with a firm belief that man made climate change is real.
Because there are no easy answers. Why don't you propose 5 thing you would like to happen to help address climate change?
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
You probably framed the question wrong. It's like asking everyone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.
To answer the question is to be a climate denier. Very few are.
What is the case is that some people probably have different opinions to you on how to best deal with it.
For example, if you don't think people should be prosecuted for vandalism or serious disruption to others lives, I would suggest you are setting back the climate agenda, not helping it. That's a reasonable position and is taken with a firm belief that man made climate change is real.
Because there are no easy answers. Why don't you propose 5 thing you would like to happen to help address climate change?
There are people in this thread who are climate change deniers though.
1. Replace the majority of our energy supply with Nuclear Power Stations, this should have been done in the 80s/90s/2000s, this is one of the things I actually agree with Thatcher on
2. Massive investment in public transport and cycling infrastructure over cars
3. Worldwide effort into Fusion technology
4. Worldwide effort into carbon capture technology in the air and via the oceans. You might think this is a pie in the sky idea but the oceans are acidifying, the consequences of this left unchecked are devastating, human civilisation suffer badly.
5. Plant about a trillion trees
A lot these are easier said than done, three should have been done already, two we're just making token efforts really. The longer we wait the more painful the economic consequences.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
There are people in this thread who are climate change deniers though.
1. Replace the majority of our energy supply with Nuclear Power Stations, this should have been done in the 80s/90s/2000s, this is one of the things I actually agree with Thatcher on
2. Massive investment in public transport and cycling infrastructure over cars
3. Worldwide effort into Fusion technology
4. Worldwide effort into carbon capture technology in the air and via the oceans. You might think this is a pie in the sky idea but the oceans are acidifying, the consequences of this left unchecked are devastating, human civilisation suffer badly.
5. Plant about a trillion trees
A lot these are easier said than done, three should have been done already, two we're just making token efforts really. The longer we wait the more painful the economic consequences.
I largely agree, although I'm not sure what 'effort into' entails.
Real big mistake of Germany to get rid of nuclear. I must say I have never really understood the greens vehement opposition to it, which I think has lessened in time.
I'm not really anti car either. I'd welcome far more focus on how we are actually using energy, our reliance on phones, global supply chains, 'next day delivery', things like that that really add.
I know so many people who think they are green but they really aren't.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
I largely agree, although I'm not sure what 'effort into' entails.
Real big mistake of Germany to get rid of nuclear. I must say I have never really understood the greens vehement opposition to it, which I think has lessened in time.
I'm not really anti car either. I'd welcome far more focus on how we are actually using energy, our reliance on phones, global supply chains, 'next day delivery', things like that that really add.
I know so many people who think they are green but they really aren't.
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extincti...l-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
So Brexit displayed economically sustainable ideas/ideals in your opinion?
Green Party suffers majorly from FPTP and just the fact that their core message makes people feel a bit guilty...
Is pollution good? Probably more a question for Mozzer than anybody else in this thread so far.
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Originally Posted by
Doucas
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
Jimbo - a "centrist? That's funny. I liked the Chemical Ali comparison.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
No, I entirely believe climate change is happening, and is a really important issue, and it should be taken forward by sensible people not by Hooray Henry's glueing themselves to the trains and bridges people use to go about their lives.
Oh, do shut up. This is yet another subject you know nothing about.
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TWGL1
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extincti...l-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
GBeebies as your sauce? LOL
I gather you'll be able to "enjoy" Raab bullying people live on there soon.
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
According to the modelling its appears this may be the case, but it’s modelling. They said the Great Barrier Reef would disappear however contrary to the modelling it’s thriving.
10 polluters
China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2.
India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2.
Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2.
Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2.
Germany, 759 million tons of CO2.
Iran, 720 million tons of CO2.
These are the countries that we need to focus on before we take drastic action here.
I think you'll find the GBR is improving after over a decade of decline after strenuous efforts to mitigate the negative impacts on it.
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CCMBs regular Nr Nice Guy being his usual pleasant self I see!
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
CCMBs regular Nr Nice Guy being his usual pleasant self I see!
I think he's a Biden dikklikker.
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Originally Posted by
az city
GBeebies as your sauce? LOL
I gather you'll be able to "enjoy" Raab bullying people live on there soon.
Why try and discredit facts …if GB News is incorrect can you provide a link please ?
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extincti...l-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
Imagine a country deciding its trading future lies with the other side of the world against that backdrop.
By the way, this humans alone make up about 20%, can you provide a link, please?