Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.

And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.

That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.

You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
1. Climate change isn’t happening

2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans

3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal

4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions

5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it

You're on stage four Jimbo.