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BBC News - Rishi Sunak's protection officer being investigated for bet on election date - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgeekd4nzvkt
What is it about the Tories that anyone within 5 yards of them is mired in sleeze and corruption.
It is what they are. it is in their veins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
It’s all about the money
And another one
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11j1q3y13o
Cmon now. The lady just likes a bet.
I go in the bookies regularly and she looks like your average punter studying the form and having a flutter.
Probably came up on the screen and she had a fun bet.
I'm sure the war in Ukraine , Covid influenced her as well not to mention there are left wing women MPs betting far worse in Europe blah blah blah.
She’s married to the Conservative Party Director of Campaigns it seems.
Not any more he isn’t!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If she's elected she should be suspended just like Craig Williams. Appalling abuse of power, essentially insider trading. Monumentally stupid behaviour too, all to seek a relatively small sum of money. In Craig Williams case he may win a few hundred quid but lose an MPs salary. Total idiot.
Yes you would think the Tories would want at least 100k for their slip ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
JamesWales blah blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
You only have to scroll up two posts to see what I wrote, Joey. We are probably in complete agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Come on, give them a break, they were just being members of the what’s in it for me party - the 2019-24 version of it anyway. You know, the version where the term “I’m not going to comment while there’s an ongoing investigation taking place” has become the norm.
Craig Williams basically admitted he had a bet by saying what he did was a gross error of judgement. If Rishi wants everyone who had a bet out of the party then why is he waiting for any gambling commission enquiry.
Just get rid of him and others now.
He's so weakQuote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
I think they want everybody to vote Starmer to give him a huge mandate.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
BBC grammar fail in the first para. They would need a Time Machine to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Conservative Party withdraws support for the two Parliamentary candidates who have been named in this matter.
Subliminal messaging at it's finest :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Five coppers and now a Labour Candidate suspended too.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The wider it goes, the slightly more bizarre it gets. I can see how some very close to the PM trying to make money on it is stupid but surely the Labour MP and some in the police would have acted on nothing other than rumours?
I struggle to see a huge issue?
EDIT** It seems the Labour guy has been suspended for betting on himself to lose. That is bizarre, not particularly immoral but I can see why it's a definite suspension**
Depends where those 'rumours' came from.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Craig Williams was close enough to Rishi to know. The police officers may work in number 10 and have overheard a comment, or travelled in a ministerial car and heard a conversation. All that would potentially qualify as having insider knowledge.
Interestingly though, on Newsnight the day before the announcement, one of the political journalists said that all he's heard all day is that Rishi is going to announce on the following day the elecdate of July 4th. Decent odds were still available then for anyone to take advantage of. That rumour was in the public domain so wouldn't count.
Only after that when Cameron returned home early, and another minister cancelled a trip did the odds plummet.
One of the justifiable suspensions!Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
This comment from the Guardian rolling elction blog:
Craig is the candidate in Central Suffolk and North Ipswich. That is a seat Dan Poulter won for the Tories in 2019 with a majority of 23,391. But some of the recent MRP polls have suggested it was on course to go Labour.
Several layers of stupidity, immorality and miscalculation there!
Yeah it's pretty stupid behaviour. I guess we are dealing with something that some people suffer a serious addiction to, so I do try and bear that in mind, but still. This is just something, people will have to learn you can't do. I think betting on your own side is okay and betting on the date is a guess okay if it really is a guess, but it's best just left well alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
The Labour guy is a berk, but I suppose it gives Starmer a chance to show what a “strong” leader he is.
The journalist Will Hayward has said on twitter he's heard rumours of another Welsh Conservative politician (not an MP) being investigated.
It's times like this I want the labour party flattened and reformed with the liberalsQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
What an absolute idiot
Meanwhile there was a Labour MP who bet on the Tories winning his seat....Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clmmy8e12vyo
They did act straight away unlike your lotQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Where’ve you been in this thread up to now? We’ve missed you - he wasn’t an MP, it was a Conservative held seat, and he’d been discussed, and condemned, in this thread already.Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Meanwhile, there’s now a Cabinet member and a Welsh AM to add to the list.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czkk0d19kgdo
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rowing-scandal
Quite a feisty debate between Sunak and Starmer on the BBC tonight! I think the take-home message was that a big proportion of people are still undecided who to vote for. The audience member Robert said it all when he asked the question "are you the best two on offer"!
I thought yet again starmer was hopelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
He has the charisma of a week old sausage roll
The poll on who came out on top called it a 50 50 draw
If Labour had chosen a decent leader the majority would have been gigantic
I thought I’d figured out this betting scandal, the term “insider trading” has been used in describing the allegations against the original people named in the bets placed on the date of the election and its that which is wrong about them. Stacks of people play the markets and most of them are not indulging in insider trading - rightly, no action is taken against them because they’re doing nothing wrong, that’s how I tend to think about politicians betting in general.
For example, I don’t see what this bloke did wrong
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czkk0d19kgdo
apart from make an ill judged joke about how much he’d won, However, then you get a case like this one which has broken overnight and this just seems wrong to me, presumably because of the amount allegedly bet on the outcome of the constituency the MP is standing in - there’s no “insider trading” involved, but it just feels wrong.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ph...st%20Yorkshire.