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One crumb of comfort from the election
The meteoric rise of the Green Party. :-)
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
you've been flat out in the alt forum but this one just had to come on the main board?
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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IanD
Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
I read Jo Stevens and thought of (what I thought was) a Jo Stevens from S Club 7 who's name is actually Rachel.
Oh well. I cant post images because I cant get through Mikes hoops.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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Dembe
you've been flat out in the alt forum but this one just had to come on the main board?
I like to reach a wider public ...
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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az city
The meteoric rise of the Green Party. :-)
And Plaid
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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RichardM
And Plaid
Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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IanD
Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
Is she the fiirst Bluebird in the Cabinet ? Neil Kinnock was never in Government, Leo Abse was never in the Cabinet, I don’t recall George Thomas was ever a Bluebird. David Lloyd George was at both Cup Finals in the 1920s but I’d be surprised if he ever went to Ninian Park. Stephen Doughty, member for Cardiff South and Penarth, is a Bluebird but has never been in office. Can anyone think of anyone else ?
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
one crumb...you mean a loaf of bread.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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IanD
Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
Really, was she at the aldershot home game in the snow 1991 ish, there was 1700 odd, only the hardcore
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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RichardM
And Plaid
Did alright in canton as half of north wales relocated there
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az city
Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.
That's our democracy for you, fewer votes and two more seats. Meanwhile Labour's share of the vote was up by a few percentage points but they got a huge majority. Reform got about the same share of the vote as the Libs but got 5 seats while the Libs got 71.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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Enoch Mort
Is she the fiirst Bluebird in the Cabinet ? Neil Kinnock was never in Government, Leo Abse was never in the Cabinet, I don’t recall George Thomas was ever a Bluebird. David Lloyd George was at both Cup Finals in the 1920s but I’d be surprised if he ever went to Ninian Park. Stephen Doughty, member for Cardiff South and Penarth, is a Bluebird but has never been in office. Can anyone think of anyone else ?
Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West MP until 2024 was a minister and is a bluebird.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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az city
I like to reach a wider public ...
Hopefully your post takes off
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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RichardM
That's our democracy for you, fewer votes and two more seats. Meanwhile Labour's share of the vote was up by a few percentage points but they got a huge majority. Reform got about the same share of the vote as the Libs but got 5 seats while the Libs got 71.
No, that's our voting system for you.
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RichardM
Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West MP until 2024 was a minister and is a bluebird.
Definitely a Bluebird but were any of his Junior Ministerial or Parliamentary Under Secretary of State positions actually in the Cabinet ?
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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az city
Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.
This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).
What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.
She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.
It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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IanD
Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
No she isn't. She's from Swansea and grew up in Flintshire.
She's a horrible anti-Wales pro-UK liar who is intent on denying Wales the £billions we are owed from HS2
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severncity
This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).
What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.
She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.
It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.
Holde yer horses there. I have nothing against Plaid. Calm down. I believe I said "I think" in the post. I knew the number of votes rounded to the nearest 10k was about the same or fewer - or am I wrong on that?
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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severncity
This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).
What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.
She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.
It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.
Proportionally more people voted for the reform nutters than Plaid
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az city
Holde yer horses there. I have nothing against Plaid. Calm down. I believe I said "I think" in the post. I knew the number of votes rounded to the nearest 10k was about the same or fewer - or am I wrong on that?
In the 2019 general election Plaid Cymru received 153,265 votes which was 9.9% of the votes cast in Wales.
On Thursday Plaid Cymru received 194,812 votes which was 14.8% of votes cast in Wales.
And 4 of the 32 MP's elected in Wales represent Plaid Cymru - which too is an all-time best.
Plaid Cymru receives, on average, double its Westminster vote in subsequent Senedd/Assembly elections. 30% in 2026 would almost certainly make Rhun First Minister.
Many people who vote for other parties in Westminster elections switch to Plaid in Senedd elections.
Plaid has only a very small chance of being part of any government in Westminster so many Welsh voters feel that it's a wasted vote in a general election.
The fact that 194,812 people don't feel that voting for Plaid is a wasted vote is a sign of just how strong and popular Plaid Cymru actually is.
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severncity
No she isn't. She's from Swansea and grew up in Flintshire.
She's a horrible anti-Wales pro-UK liar who is intent on denying Wales the £billions we are owed from HS2
Not commenting on her politics, but you’re wrong about her not being a City fan.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Proportionally more people voted for the reform nutters than Plaid
Yes and Reform could easily be one of the largest parties in the Senedd after 2026. That's why Farage launched Reform's UK campaign in the Gurnos a few weeks ago.
If events go badly for the UK and Wales over the next 18 months Reform could, conceivably be the largest party in the Senedd after 2026
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the other bob wilson
Not commenting on her politics, but you’re wrong about her not being a City fan.
She's a Spurs fan who attends Cardiff City games. It says so in this article published today
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...ch_item_mobile
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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severncity
She's a City Fan whose other half is a big noise in the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust hence the Spurs connection
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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RichardM
Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West MP until 2024 was a minister and is a bluebird.
Is this the same Kev "white goods" Brennan and his dodgy expenses you are talking about ? :hehe:
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Enoch Mort
She's a City Fan whose other half is a big noise in the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust hence the Spurs connection
Get on to the fact checkers pronto! We can't have WalesOnline spreading fake news about our new imperial viceroy.
It's weird, though, that you in particular would leap to the defence of a Labour politician. And have such in-depth knowledge about a politician of a party that you, seemingly, aren't fond of. Really weird tbh
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severncity
Get on to the fact checkers pronto! We can't have WalesOnline spreading fake news about our new imperial viceroy.
It's weird, though, that you in particular would leap to the defence of a Labour politician. And have such in-depth knowledge about a politician of a party that you, seemingly, aren't fond of. Really weird tbh
You called someone who was born and brought up in Wales and has been an MP in Cardiff for a decade a new imperial viceroy and thought Enoch's assertion that that she might support the City as really weird. Irony was made for this stuff!
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pipster
Is this the same Kev "white goods" Brennan and his dodgy expenses you are talking about ? :hehe:
I remember Severncity ripping you a new one when you tried your nudge nudge innuendo shit on Rhys ab Owen. What's the factual stuff you have on Kevin Brennan that you can share with the wider world?
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az city
The meteoric rise of the Green Party. :-)
🤣 The absolute worst of the worst. Rich, entitled, economically incompetent ladder puller uppers!
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JamesWales
The absolute worst of the worst. Rich, entitled, economically incompetent ladder puller uppers!
The great thing about a secret ballot is you don't need to filter things down for people trying to guess where you placed your x, you know!
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cyril evans awaydays
The great thing about a secret ballot is you don't need to filter things down for people trying to guess where you placed your x, you know!
Not for those selfish nimby charlatans! ;) So you can narrow it down to 6 other parties..
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cyril evans awaydays
You called someone who was born and brought up in Wales and has been an MP in Cardiff for a decade a new imperial viceroy and thought Enoch's assertion that that she might support the City as really weird. Irony was made for this stuff!
I'd heard previously that she'd married a man from Cardiff and that he was a City fan. She supports Spurs as reported by that impeccable source WalesOnline.
Have you seen the recent Catrin Haf Jones interview of Jo Stevens? It's the reason I called her 'Imperial Viceroy'
https://youtu.be/WRYOoY1hBGI?si=xI89JbWDw75kPBzM
Jo Stevens is at 9 minutes in
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severncity
I'd heard previously that she'd married a man from Cardiff and that he was a City fan. She supports Spurs as reported by that impeccable source WalesOnline.
Have you seen the recent Catrin Haf Jones interview of Jo Stevens? It's the reason I called her 'Imperial Viceroy'
https://youtu.be/WRYOoY1hBGI?si=xI89JbWDw75kPBzM
Jo Stevens is at 9 minutes in
Thanks. So HS2 funding plus non devolution of probation and youth justice = imperial viceroy. Got it!
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Re: One crumb of comfort from the election
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severncity
I'd heard previously that she'd married a man from Cardiff and that he was a City fan. She supports Spurs as reported by that impeccable source WalesOnline.
Have you seen the recent Catrin Haf Jones interview of Jo Stevens? It's the reason I called her 'Imperial Viceroy'
https://youtu.be/WRYOoY1hBGI?si=xI89JbWDw75kPBzM
Jo Stevens is at 9 minutes in
CHJ is a classy woman and a very fair interviewer
Absolutely wasted in the goldfish bowl of Welsh politics and S4C
Nobody watches it
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severncity
Get on to the fact checkers pronto! We can't have WalesOnline spreading fake news about our new imperial viceroy.
It's weird, though, that you in particular would leap to the defence of a Labour politician. And have such in-depth knowledge about a politician of a party that you, seemingly, aren't fond of. Really weird tbh
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Quite a remarkable post this. I don’t think I’ve ever posted on the darker side of CCMB before. I initially posted on this thread when it was on the football side and then got moved.
I don’t think I’ve ever got into a political argument on this board and certainly have never stated my political preferences.
“You in particular” is an interesting phrase. On your part it must be a case of mistaken identity or you are a wind up merchant who likes to spread discord.
In terms of the statement I made about the politician in question. I have no views one way or another about her other and I was introduced to both of them at CCS and the situation was explained to me by someone who knows them both better than me.
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cyril evans awaydays
I remember Severncity ripping you a new one when you tried your nudge nudge innuendo shit on Rhys ab Owen. What's the factual stuff you have on Kevin Brennan that you can share with the wider world?
Innuendo and out the other !
He seems to know my shoe size and my post code and CV
He's very odd
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Enoch Mort
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Quite a remarkable post this. I don’t think I’ve ever posted on the darker side of CCMB before. I initially posted on this thread when it was on the football side and then got moved.
I don’t think I’ve ever got into a political argument on this board and certainly have never stated my political preferences.
“You in particular” is an interesting phrase. On your part it must be a case of mistaken identity or you are a wind up merchant who likes to spread discord.
In terms of the statement I made about the politician in question. I have no views one way or another about her other and I was introduced to both of them at CCS and the situation was explained to me by someone who knows them both better than me.
Sorry I thought you were someone else. I'd had a few cans last night.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
CHJ is a classy woman and a very fair interviewer
Absolutely wasted in the goldfish bowl of Welsh politics and S4C
Nobody watches it
The clip has been watched half a million times just on Newyddion's Twitter feed, plus hundreds of thousands of times in retweets.
That's the beauty of social media - content goes viral and is watched by a much bigger audience than on TV.
https://x.com/NewyddionS4C/status/18...549OSo5PQ&s=19
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cyril evans awaydays
Thanks. So HS2 funding plus non devolution of probation and youth justice = imperial viceroy. Got it!
She trashed the concept of devolution, lied about the reaction in the Cardiff West CLP and said that HS2 was "not in existence any longer" despite previously campaigning for Wales to get the £4 billion plus it's owed.
You do realise that Labour have backtracked on that policy and that everyone in Wales will be worse off as a result, don't you?