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    One crumb of comfort from the election

    The meteoric rise of the Green Party.

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    you've been flat out in the alt forum but this one just had to come on the main board?

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    Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
    I read Jo Stevens and thought of (what I thought was) a Jo Stevens from S Club 7 who's name is actually Rachel.

    Oh well. I cant post images because I cant get through Mikes hoops.

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by Dembe View Post
    you've been flat out in the alt forum but this one just had to come on the main board?
    I like to reach a wider public ...

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    The meteoric rise of the Green Party.
    And Plaid

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

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    And Plaid
    Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
    Is she the fiirst Bluebird in the Cabinet ? Neil Kinnock was never in Government, Leo Abse was never in the Cabinet, I don’t recall George Thomas was ever a Bluebird. David Lloyd George was at both Cup Finals in the 1920s but I’d be surprised if he ever went to Ninian Park. Stephen Doughty, member for Cardiff South and Penarth, is a Bluebird but has never been in office. Can anyone think of anyone else ?

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    one crumb...you mean a loaf of bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
    Really, was she at the aldershot home game in the snow 1991 ish, there was 1700 odd, only the hardcore

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    And Plaid
    Did alright in canton as half of north wales relocated there

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.
    That's our democracy for you, fewer votes and two more seats. Meanwhile Labour's share of the vote was up by a few percentage points but they got a huge majority. Reform got about the same share of the vote as the Libs but got 5 seats while the Libs got 71.

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    Is she the fiirst Bluebird in the Cabinet ? Neil Kinnock was never in Government, Leo Abse was never in the Cabinet, I don’t recall George Thomas was ever a Bluebird. David Lloyd George was at both Cup Finals in the 1920s but I’d be surprised if he ever went to Ninian Park. Stephen Doughty, member for Cardiff South and Penarth, is a Bluebird but has never been in office. Can anyone think of anyone else ?
    Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West MP until 2024 was a minister and is a bluebird.

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I like to reach a wider public ...
    Hopefully your post takes off

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
    That's our democracy for you, fewer votes and two more seats. Meanwhile Labour's share of the vote was up by a few percentage points but they got a huge majority. Reform got about the same share of the vote as the Libs but got 5 seats while the Libs got 71.
    No, that's our voting system for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
    Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West MP until 2024 was a minister and is a bluebird.
    Definitely a Bluebird but were any of his Junior Ministerial or Parliamentary Under Secretary of State positions actually in the Cabinet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Plaid got fewer votes than 5 years ago, I think.
    This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).

    What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.

    She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.

    It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Jo Stevens...Secretary of State for Wales...is a Bluebird.
    No she isn't. She's from Swansea and grew up in Flintshire.

    She's a horrible anti-Wales pro-UK liar who is intent on denying Wales the £billions we are owed from HS2

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    Re: One crumb of comfort from the election

    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).

    What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.

    She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.

    It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.
    Holde yer horses there. I have nothing against Plaid. Calm down. I believe I said "I think" in the post. I knew the number of votes rounded to the nearest 10k was about the same or fewer - or am I wrong on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    This was Plaid Cymru’s best ever performance in a Westminster election, securing 14.8% of the vote in Wales (up from 9.9% in 2019) and falling just shy of the record number of votes in the 2001 election (194,812 in 2024 vs 195,893 in the heady post-devolution days of 2001).

    What's more, Plaid Cymru's candidate in Cardiff West, Kiera Marshall, came second with 9423 votes, which was by far the best performance in Cardiff in the 100-year history of Plaid Cymru.

    She smashed Neil McEvoy's return of 6096 votes in the 2015 general election and beat McEvoy in every polling district including his former stronghold of Pentrebane. McEvoy himself (the 'leader' and only elected politician of his party, Propel) recieved a derisory 1041 votes.

    It just shows how much Plaid Cymru are ignored by the UK (and 'Welsh') media that you, az city, were unaware of these facts.
    Proportionally more people voted for the reform nutters than Plaid

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Holde yer horses there. I have nothing against Plaid. Calm down. I believe I said "I think" in the post. I knew the number of votes rounded to the nearest 10k was about the same or fewer - or am I wrong on that?
    In the 2019 general election Plaid Cymru received 153,265 votes which was 9.9% of the votes cast in Wales.

    On Thursday Plaid Cymru received 194,812 votes which was 14.8% of votes cast in Wales.

    And 4 of the 32 MP's elected in Wales represent Plaid Cymru - which too is an all-time best.

    Plaid Cymru receives, on average, double its Westminster vote in subsequent Senedd/Assembly elections. 30% in 2026 would almost certainly make Rhun First Minister.

    Many people who vote for other parties in Westminster elections switch to Plaid in Senedd elections.

    Plaid has only a very small chance of being part of any government in Westminster so many Welsh voters feel that it's a wasted vote in a general election.

    The fact that 194,812 people don't feel that voting for Plaid is a wasted vote is a sign of just how strong and popular Plaid Cymru actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    No she isn't. She's from Swansea and grew up in Flintshire.

    She's a horrible anti-Wales pro-UK liar who is intent on denying Wales the £billions we are owed from HS2
    Not commenting on her politics, but you’re wrong about her not being a City fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Proportionally more people voted for the reform nutters than Plaid
    Yes and Reform could easily be one of the largest parties in the Senedd after 2026. That's why Farage launched Reform's UK campaign in the Gurnos a few weeks ago.

    If events go badly for the UK and Wales over the next 18 months Reform could, conceivably be the largest party in the Senedd after 2026

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Not commenting on her politics, but you’re wrong about her not being a City fan.
    She's a Spurs fan who attends Cardiff City games. It says so in this article published today

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...ch_item_mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    She's a Spurs fan who attends Cardiff City games. It says so in this article published today

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...ch_item_mobile
    She's a City Fan whose other half is a big noise in the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust hence the Spurs connection

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