Strong rumours that he had been given the job permanently.
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Strong rumours that he had been given the job permanently.
From where?
Plenty of people on Twitter talking like it’s a done deal, but where does it originate from? Assuming it’s true, how come Riza wasn’t good enough after fourteen points out of eighteen and is good enough after two out of fifteen? :facepalm:
Our megalomaniac owner decided yes as he's willing to work for minimum wage
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So I did say few weeks back Tan was giving <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CardiffCityFC</a> job to Riza for rest of season, with Bilic there as Jan back-up should it go wrong. I don't know why announcement has been delayed this long, I'm not sure it's the right call, but guess we hv to back Omer as it's happening</p>— Paul Abbandonato (@PaulAbbandonato) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulAbbandonato/status/1864379067438387368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
If he's appointed then it's the latest in a number of shockers.
The only way out of an inevitable fall down the leagues is someone somewhere being serious in buying Tan out.
Darren Purse being our next manager is a good bet after Riza gets relieved of duties before the winter is out.
We are a complete shambles of a club. Well done Tan and co.
That’ll teach people to go writing letters
Apart from Ipswich, for the past few seasons the sides promoted from league 1 have struggled in the Championship. This season is no different, and whilst we're poor there are at least 3 sides equally bad or worse, ie Portsmouth, Plymouth, Oxford. I think that after paying off Bulut Tan will be quite happy to stay in the Championship under Riza until the Sala case reaches a conclusion..
Hudson was appointed on poor run of results. Now Riza the same.
Guess they have reacted to the open letter from the supporters groups.
Would have rather he stayed interim.
In fairness he doesn't get much wrong and he's adamant paperwork just being completed so that's good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Yeah hudson and riza both had a handful of ok early results. Both then dipped and both now been appointed on the back of the dips. It's beyond ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
I just couldn't believe the bookies were offering 10/1 on riza the day bulut was sacked. I could never see it being anyone else!
I stand by my claim even if riza turned out to be the next pep the club deserve no credit as it'll just be getting lucky. If they keep appointing people with no previous management experience at all then 1 of them maybe OK just the law of averages.
I think most people are past caring but I think it's a joke of an appointment.
His previous experience is Cheshunt 10 years ago. 7 games with Leyton orient 7 years ago (and he lost 5 of them) then next manager job is us.
I can't criticise him as he's been given the opportunity of a lifetime but the club really is a laughing stock and frankly we deserve to be relegated.
Sadly, I agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
I’m past caring now :-/
Let’s pretend the club’s board had parted company with Erol Bulut at the end of last season (as they should have done if they had any sense). Can you imagine the reaction if they’d subsequently unveiled Omer Riza as the new manager before the new season began?
Having been sacked by Watford, this guy was apparently brought in as a coach to improve City’s attack. The team scores one goal in the first six games and he gets a promotion to manager.
Only at Cardiff City…
Wonder what the odds on him being sacked in the last week of january or first week of February are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Yes indeed. However if this is confirmed the even more bonkers thing is this action is on a run of pretty horrible results and performances! If they continue he will be sacked in the next couple of weeks anyway! Is it 2 points from 5 games? It's not like he has done so so well the club now have no option but to leave him in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I look forward to the FAB applauding the club for responding to their letter by taking action.......
I really hope this isn't true.
The man has no dignity, the board is clueless on footballing matters and the results/style of play have been mediocre.
Russell Slade was a far more suitable appointment in hindsight.
Quite how they see fit to do this at this point is beyond me.
2 points from the last 15 available :hehe:
Maybe no one with any ambition wants the job? Tan has a terrible reputation within the football world. Only chancers like bulut and unknowns like riza, Hudson etc…Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Bilic in January if it goes wrong? So they've got some sort of agreement with him that if they sack the manager they're allegedly about to appoint in less than a month he'll take over? I can't see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
With credentials like that it’s easy to see how he will be the perfect candidate for the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Brought in as a forward coach and making a big difference he was obviously the right choice to replace Bulut
I guess winning two points out of the last 15 on offer was enough to convince the board that they had got their man
I wonder if they’ll be a full house on Saturday as fans will be so excited that we have secured he’s services?
If a fans meeting is called I hope this time they really lay into them.
Leave the meeting leave them in no doubts that the fans have no confidence in them whatsoever and this is another joke of an appointment. They learn nothing from past mistakes and they are leading us back to the lower leagues.
No wasted questions on commercial opportunities just lay into them about yet another shocker of an appointment.
In fact with a squad in desperate relegation trouble , a window coming up which we badly need to save us from the drop and the 1st chance to start rebuilding a weak squad this is probably their worse appointment.
Yes I agree. However will probably leave with the club being congratulated on the £5 sausage roll and a pint offer before selected games several hours before kick off :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Apparently they were really impressed with the sausage roll, but thought his appointment might upset the Vegans, so they opted for the more experienced candidate, allegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Jesus Christ.
It’s as if they’re begging me not to care anymore.
I think we all stopped believing they cared what the fans think.
But if we imagined they did its not impossible to think the club may think this will be a really popular response to that letter. It's also not impossible to think having seen the social media reaction last night and today they'll do a late u turn mind. Nothing would surprise me!
The hospital is short on brain surgeons. Let's give that porter a go. He's always happy, has been in the room for lots of operations, and can pick it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
But one of the best UK surgeons has become available, in fact, there have never been so many top surgeons available, nah stick with the porter he's had a go and not killed any yet, brain damaged a few, but he'll learn.
The chances of relegation have just increased exponentially.
Kaba and Sabrini just about saved us, how the hell could they make the same mistake over and over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Maybe it's not a proper appointment then, just a continuance with a title, to try keep fans happy after the letter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
If so that's backfired big time!
If they'd done it on the back of our 6 game unbeaten run they'd have got far less grief, but do it now and they look even more like a bunch of dicks.
Bilic is just hanging around as back up is he :xmashehe:
Riza is likely to be appointed, we knew it all along, the only real surprise is they didn't announce it after the good run we had.
I sort of think they forgot and the letter and press have reminded them.
Fear not, new manager bounce part 2 incoming
Lads in the dressing room really behind him, new way of playing that the lads are really enjoying, been a massive turnaround etc etc etc. In the bottom three at the end of January, gets sacked for an experienced manager and rinse and repeat. The spiral is depressingly predictable.
I hope he is a success with us.
I think the issue with the board is there's no guarantee with any manager you bring in - experienced, inexperienced, they all end up the same way - sacked after a bad run.
If there was a manager we could bring in who would DEFINITELY turn us into a promotion challenging side then I have no doubt they would be all over it - but such a person doesn't exist. People successful at one club are frequently unable to replicate that elsewhere. Or even at the same club after some time.
Back in the early 2000s George Burley took Ipswich into the premier league, and then to 5th and qualified for Europe. He was made premier league manager of the season the only player in a run of 10 seasons who wasn't Wenger or Ferguson.
Within little more than a year he was sacked - he never got another premier league job and by 2012 he was finished in management altogether, having been unsuccessful in a number of jobs since.
There's often little rhyme or reason to it - that manager you want, your preferred option - deep down you now they could very easily not work out here. I guess the board are unlikely to get rid of a guy who's doing OK at this point when there's a chance whoever they bring in will do even worse.
Yes we may quickly reach the point where Riza has taken us as far as we can go, but at the moment I don't see that giving him time to show what he can do with the tam is any more risky than getting rid of hi and starting again with someone else. And I guess the board probably see it that way as well.
If this is happening - so far just Twitter noise and Paul Abbandonato doing his ITK act - it will be a further example of lack of leadership and lack of effective and regular communication from the club.
I would prefer an experienced manager - and there are lots out there.
I don't agree that Cardiff City is unattractive or a basket case - despite the obvious weaknesses in the boardroom and the foibles of the owner. But the club is stable unless Tan walks away, has its own stadium, training ground, and an Academy that is finally starting to do what it is thee for. The regular fan base may be mainly apathetic and shrinking, but there is the potential for a 30k + home crowd if we get it right.
But Riza, despite his limited track record, has changed the mood music in the squad, been more attacking and adventurous, made some big mistakes (Bristol City) but also shown he is able to change formations and players in-game, has conducted himself well to my mind (I know he has irritated some with his desire for the job) and he isn't Bulut.
So if he gets the job for the rest of the season I hope he gets full backing. The January window is make or break - and little evidence yet that the club has done the ground work for it - and Riza's coaching team is threadbare. At the start of the summer Bulut and the club were talking about adding to the coaching team (numbers and skills). But Omer Riza came in whilst Nadir Sonmez left, and when Erol Bulut, Nikolaos Karydas and Mario Galinovic left only Gavin Ward came in as temporary cover with Darren Purse helping out (he is not shown as a first team coach even now on the club website). We are seriously lacking in the coaching team.
Of course there's no guarantee and it's kind of odd we're just hoping for someone who will leave after a few years rather than 6 months but there must be some rhyme or reason to it; not everyone treats it like a crap shoot. Tan gives the impression that anyone (within reason) can do it and it's not that big a deal so he's reluctant to shell out. Perhaps deep down he doesn't like the whole manager aura since he likes to think of himself as the main man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Ruben Selles is supposedly off to Hull. Maybe we asked and blanched at the fee. Maybe he'll take them down and we'll stay up and No-one Knows Anything, but successful teams don't treat the job as we do.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I'd also say that a significant negative reaction from amongst the fans to Riza getting the job would be the worst of both worlds. Whether he's in charge for 2 months or 2 years, he's going to need the fans behind him.
The downside is we won't now have a 'new manager bounce', which has been the only thing keeping us in this division for a few years now, but that's no reason not to get behind Riza.
Even on here it seems fans are OK with this appointment.
I dont get it.
It's crazy and only at Cardiff City.
He’s not actually been appointed, it’s currently a rumour. The rumour may even have been leaked to try to gauge fans response, who knows. Personally I think it’s much too big a job for someone with Riza’s cv. This is a job for an experienced pair of hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We are pleased to confirm that Omer Riza has been appointed as the Club’s First Team Manager until the end of the 2024/25 campaign. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CityAsOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CityA sOne</a></p>— Cardiff City FC (@CardiffCityFC) <a href="https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/status/1864678653197734175?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>