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Joel Colwill
Recalled from Cheltenham and off to Exeter for the rest of the season.
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Sorry just seen this in the transfers thread.
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I understand why but I’m not sure it’s the right move. He was playing well at Cheltenham, fitted into the system and was appreciated. He’s got to go to Exeter, do it all again and break into their team, which is a tough ask. He’s got to be in our squad next season.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I understand why but I’m not sure it’s the right move. He was playing well at Cheltenham, fitted into the system and was appreciated. He’s got to go to Exeter, do it all again and break into their team, which is a tough ask. He’s got to be in our squad next season.
Atleast the club are finding him nice locations to live in, that's something us fans can take some comfort from.
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I understand why but I’m not sure it’s the right move. He was playing well at Cheltenham, fitted into the system and was appreciated. He’s got to go to Exeter, do it all again and break into their team, which is a tough ask. He’s got to be in our squad next season.
Totally agree mate, I'm quite surprised. I don't imagine the standard is that much greater at Exeter. I didn't know whether it was something to do with wages and that Exeter would pay a higher % but I doubt he's going to be on big money.
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Originally Posted by
GL1Blue
Totally agree mate, I'm quite surprised. I don't imagine the standard is that much greater at Exeter. I didn't know whether it was something to do with wages and that Exeter would pay a higher % but I doubt he's going to be on big money.
The standard is definitely higher in League One than League Two - so a move to Exeter will test him more. I can see the argument about having to break into a new side and establish himself again with a new manager - but that is surely partly the point? This season looks like a pretty well managed two-stage crash course for Joel Colwill so he is ready to take on the Championship in 2025-6.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Atleast the club are finding him nice locations to live in, that's something us fans can take some comfort from.
A tad chilly down at Dawlish Warren this time of year...
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Originally Posted by
GL1Blue
Totally agree mate, I'm quite surprised. I don't imagine the standard is that much greater at Exeter. I didn't know whether it was something to do with wages and that Exeter would pay a higher % but I doubt he's going to be on big money.
League One to League Two is night and day. Look at the clubs, Charlton, Bolton, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Reading, Barnsley, Wigan and Blackpool have all been Premier League clubs. It won't be a money thing, it'll be to push him to the next level so he can make the step up to us next season. I'm quite confident he'll be in our squad next season.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The standard is definitely higher in League One than League Two - so a move to Exeter will test him more. I can see the argument about having to break into a new side and establish himself again with a new manager - but that is surely partly the point? This season looks like a pretty well managed two-stage crash course for Joel Colwill so he is ready to take on the Championship in 2025-6.
I've realised my point is what Jon said, so this :-)
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I understand why but I’m not sure it’s the right move. He was playing well at Cheltenham, fitted into the system and was appreciated. He’s got to go to Exeter, do it all again and break into their team, which is a tough ask. He’s got to be in our squad next season.
My issue with Cheltenham was he was playing at 10, I think he will end up playing deeper for us, hopefully Exeter player him a bit deeper to help him work on his defensive game.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The standard is definitely higher in League One than League Two - so a move to Exeter will test him more. I can see the argument about having to break into a new side and establish himself again with a new manager - but that is surely partly the point? This season looks like a pretty well managed two-stage crash course for Joel Colwill so he is ready to take on the Championship in 2025-6.
yes a much better managed loan than we have typically done in the past. it's up to him now to take the opportunity
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
yes a much better managed loan than we have typically done in the past. it's up to him now to take the opportunity
He's done well. Nice to see one of our young professionals having a successful loan spell, i can't really remember the last time it happened.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
He's done well. Nice to see one of our young professionals having a successful loan spell, i can't really remember the last time it happened.
Eli King was getting rave reviews at Morecambe and Ross County but a move to the next level with Stevenage hasn’t worked out for him.
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Maybe they want young Colwill to get league 1 experience in preparation for us playing in that division next season and he can join the first team in the summer and hit the ground running
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I understand why but I’m not sure it’s the right move. He was playing well at Cheltenham, fitted into the system and was appreciated. He’s got to go to Exeter, do it all again and break into their team, which is a tough ask. He’s got to be in our squad next season.
He’s got to go there and impress the manager, so in that respect it will give him a good grounding for when he returns to us, as typically we 2-3 different managers a season
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The standard is definitely higher in League One than League Two - so a move to Exeter will test him more. I can see the argument about having to break into a new side and establish himself again with a new manager - but that is surely partly the point? This season looks like a pretty well managed two-stage crash course for Joel Colwill so he is ready to take on the Championship in 2025-6.
Do you really think he will be a part of the matchday squads next season? I would be very surprised.
Given what's happened to Keiron Evans, Eli King, Raheem Conte, Ollie Denham, Xavier Benjamin, Malachi Fagan-Walcott, Tom Sang and every other City youngster that has shown glimpses of their potential only to be loaned out and forgotten.
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
Do you really think he will be a part of the matchday squads next season? I would be very surprised.
Given what's happened to Keiron Evans, Eli King, Raheem Conte, Ollie Denham, Xavier Benjamin, Malachi Fagan-Walcott, Tom Sang and every other City youngster that has shown glimpses of their potential only to be loaned out and forgotten.
The key difference here is that Joel Colwill is actually good
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Originally Posted by
Carl Dale's Mole
Do you really think he will be a part of the matchday squads next season? I would be very surprised.
Given what's happened to Keiron Evans, Eli King, Raheem Conte, Ollie Denham, Xavier Benjamin, Malachi Fagan-Walcott, Tom Sang and every other City youngster that has shown glimpses of their potential only to be loaned out and forgotten.
Just like Rubin, Bagan , Ashford, can we count Tanner ? all cast aside to the dustbin of football... Oh , wait a sec..
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Just like Rubin, Bagan , Ashford, can we count Tanner ? all cast aside to the dustbin of football... Oh , wait a sec..
It was an odd post. Tanner and Bagan have come back off loans and featured regularly (Ralls too, back in the day), Isaak Davies surely would have played this season without his injury, Tom Davies and Luke Pearce have both been on loan from here and came on the other day, even four of the 'forgotten' players he mentioned have played for us this season. Mark Harris and McGuinness came back off loans and played regularly, I'm not sure what his point was really.
Xaviar Benjamin is playing for Enfield now, by the way. Hardly the same as us forgetting about Velikonja.
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Originally Posted by
Undercoverinwurzelland
And he'll continue playing in red & white stripes. Next stop Sunderland or Stoke if we get relegated?
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Originally Posted by
Forest Green Bluebird
And he'll continue playing in red & white stripes. Next stop Sunderland or Stoke if we get relegated?
Might be our third kit next season, with some mumbo jumbo about what the red stripes and the white stripes symbolise.
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Exeter’s reveal of Colwill
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Listening to the Exeter game over the weekend, the commentators were saying that the pitch is starting to break up, and it is getting worse every game; I hope it does not affect his game if it becomes a mudbath.
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J R Hartley
Eli King was getting rave reviews at Morecambe and Ross County but a move to the next level with Stevenage hasn’t worked out for him.
He was getting MOM every single game for Ross County on BBC website . Quite impressive till I noticed it was voted for . I think he had very enthusiastic friends or family.:hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
He was getting MOM every single game for Ross County on BBC website . Quite impressive till I noticed it was voted for . I think he had very enthusiastic friends or family.:hehe:
Steady now jim...........
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Just like Rubin, Bagan , Ashford, can we count Tanner ? all cast aside to the dustbin of football... Oh , wait a sec..
Agreed if they are good enough we will give them a chance.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Steady now jim...........
That's how it was, it got picked up on in the loan thread. He was getting man of the match against Celtic and Rangers, in games Ross County were getting stuffed in and even when he'd come on as a late sub. The BBC don't have the same system going for the EFL or Eli would be would still be winning them every game, even though he hasn't been in the Stevenage matchday squad for weeks.
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Originally Posted by
Loramski
That's how it was, it got picked up on in the loan thread. He was getting man of the match against Celtic and Rangers, in games Ross County were getting stuffed in and even when he'd come on as a late sub. The BBC don't have the same system going for the EFL or Eli would be would still be winning them every game, even though he hasn't been in the Stevenage matchday squad for weeks.
😂 It must be nice to have that many friends ...
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Tuerto
😂 It must be nice to have that many friends ...
Not really, friends are a bit overrated in my opinion. Always asking you to do stuff and go to their weddings, not for me thanks. Each to their own though.
The thing about Eli was that it seemed believable at first. He'd been having a decent season and it was only Scottish football so it wasn't impossible that he was making an impression. Obviously, it wasn't quite as stellar as we'd first thought but he seemed to be a key player for Ross County and hopes were high that he'd kick on this season.
He picked up an injury in his last game up there, that seemed to affect his pre-season and he has never quite got going since. An oddly skittish performance from him in the cup for us probably cost him any chance he had of featuring in Bulut's plans and that appearance means we can't loan him to anyone else this season either.
Riza's been saying that it will be character building for him but he's already been through this at Crewe a couple of seasons ago, it's hard to look on the bright side of him stalling in League 1 at 22. It's not over yet for him though, of course, and hopefully he can turn things around soon.
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Originally Posted by
Loramski
Not really, friends are a bit overrated in my opinion. Always asking you to do stuff and go to their weddings, not for me thanks. Each to their own though.
The thing about Eli was that it seemed believable at first. He'd been having a decent season and it was only Scottish football so it wasn't impossible that he was making an impression. Obviously, it wasn't quite as stellar as we'd first thought but he seemed to be a key player for Ross County and hopes were high that he'd kick on this season.
He picked up an injury in his last game up there, that seemed to affect his pre-season and he has never quite got going since. An oddly skittish performance from him in the cup for us probably cost him any chance he had of featuring in Bulut's plans and that appearance means we can't loan him to anyone else this season either.
Riza's been saying that it will be character building for him but he's already been through this at Crewe a couple of seasons ago, it's hard to look on the bright side of him stalling in League 1 at 22. It's not over yet for him though, of course, and hopefully he can turn things around soon.
I get a bit of stick on here from time to time for being critical of one of our homegrown products ( i wont say his name for fear of reprisal :hehe:) But i do hope that i've always been fair and that i have always highlighted the positives and ability of said player. I mention this because that's what i attempted to do with King in that game with Bristol Rovers. I sort of knew that i was clutching a bit, but i watched him closely for 10 minutes or so and i liked the fact that he really wanted to get on the ball, he was showing for it, maybe a little over eager, but understandable. The stuff he did with the ball was the problem, but i decided to try and see the positive, however scant they were on that evening. Agree with you over his previous loans, j think he's 22 now, and his future doesn't look like it's with us, although if he can somehow wangle a contract extension, and with the way things are going, i'm sure the club can accomodate Kings playing level by simply dropping down the leagues... :hehe:
As for the comments about having friends, i'm not sure you were being serious, but you sound just like me, the mere mention of a wedding brings me out in a rash, and if it doesn't, then i'll make sure i get one before the wedding date! You sound like my type of person..... :hehe::thumbup: