Bit of an arsehole ain't he
I don't quite understand why he's gone so big on UK politics?
Printable View
Bit of an arsehole ain't he
I don't quite understand why he's gone so big on UK politics?
Because he thinks they are making such a mess of everything?Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Definitely needed a new thread on Elon Musk!
Quote from the Guardian from jon59 in the Trump thread:
In an escalation of discontent among the highest-profile far-right followers of Donald Trump, his former adviser Steve Bannon has called Trump’s newest favorite, Elon Musk, “racist” and a “truly evil guy”, pledging to “take this guy down” and kick him out of the Maga movement.
In an interview with the Corriere della Sera newspaper in Italy, excerpts of which were published this weekend by Breitbart, Bannon criticised Musk’s embrace of some forms of immigration and vowed to ensure that Musk does not have top-level access to the White House.
“He is a truly evil guy, a very bad guy. I made it my personal thing to take this guy down,” Bannon said. “Before, because he put money in, I was prepared to tolerate it – I’m not prepared to tolerate it any more.”
He added: “I will have Elon Musk run out of here by inauguration day”, which falls on 20 January. “He will not have full access to the White House. He will be like any other person.”
Sounds like this Bannon guy and Musk deserve one another. It seems Bannon was happy for Musk to put money into the Trump mission but now realises that Musk is perhaps not the nicest philanthropic chap after all!
Looks like we'll find out if Trump prefers Leon or Steve.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elon Musk set to have office space in the White House complex — NYT</p>— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/status/1879320499974754589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Leon Trotsky?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
With an ice pick !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Well a week really is a long time in politics!
Last week it was only fascists and the far-right calling for inquiries and the like.
Now it's the home secretary! Maybe it wasn't fascism to begin with? Just sensible and correct? 🤷
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9w5l4vxv2qo
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
No it wasn't.
Oh it was reasonable people too was it? Funny I don't recollect that being said.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Starmer did say only last week, that:
“[MPs] calling for inquiries because they want to jump on a bandwagon of the far-right”.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-b1203246.html
An extraordinary U-turn from the govt, but the right decision
In the drawing room?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Do you agree with him? Do you think the same as him about Musk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's an interesting theory that could explain a few things. The trouble is most people can only see things in the here and now, and they miss the small incremental changes that occur over time. If Gary is right, then I would say there are two competing billionaire factions, the one that want's to throw you a bone, and the other that want's to obliterate you, or maybe they are two sides of the same coin?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Are they uni-billionaires?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Perhaps it is because of this kind of thing:Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Team Trump's revenge on Starmer for 'meddling' in the US election: How President could veto Mandelson as ambassador, humiliate Starmer in Washington and plot to help Farage into No10
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rage-No10.html
Everything will be releveled in the coming weeks, months & years. All we have right now is opinions about what other people have said about things that haven't happened yet. However, there are plenty of data points to measure what does happen in the future, Starmer not attending the inauguration being one of them, and his food/energy/free speech policies being another. Buckle up buttercup, it's going to be a wild ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
:hehe:Quote:
A Trump ally told The Mail on Sunday: ‘It was election interference, plain and simple. Who the f*** do these people think they are?
‘Trump’s view is it’s none of their business what is going on here and they should have kept out.
'How could their meddling possibly achieve anything? It didn’t. But it’s left a nasty taste in the mouth as far as President Trump and his team goes.
'What a f***ing cheek these people have. And it didn’t do any good because Kamala was useless and clearly so were they.’
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Attachment 6399
Thank you Sir Humphrey, very helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
A simpler answer would have been just wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Here you have an actual Holocaust historian calling out Musk as a “****ing Nazi” https://x.com/waitmanb/status/188144...LTsVTx09ZSEfIA
Not wrong is he!
Fcuk that is so wrong.you can see why he has been engageing with the far right their his kind of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
'But is it Fascist to do a nazi salute?'Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
- The CCMB Oswald Mosley fan club
Quite normal for Nazis, I would have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Musks salute there is dodgy as f**k. But I sincerely doubt he is a nazi sympathiser or just did a nazi salute. He needs to explain it though and be far more cautious about how things look
Twice it is not like if got carried away with the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Apart from his family being apartheid sympathisers and being raised in that environment, generally retweeting far right and white supremacist info, Adrian Dittman saying he was a Nazi on 4Chan I also don't think he is a Nazi sympathiser.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I think he would suggest it wasn't one, let alone two, but that's for him to explain!Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Is, for example, Jeremy Corbyn a terrorist sympathising communist then? Plenty of evidence for that and people who would say he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
No idea who Adrian Dittman is. I'm not sure of any white supremacy stuff?
Certainly looks odd. But then so is he.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Certainly agree with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Not sure of the relevance of Corbyn.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Adrian Dittman is Musk's alter ego, surprised you missed that. Normally across everything.
Its strange, pro Nazi accounts on Twitter have flourshied under his ownership and he's promoted anti-semitic conspiracy theories. Maybe its a co-incidence, maybe he's a Nazi sympathiser. I don't know.
I do think he's a ketamine addicted cu*t though. Proper weird.
https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1881396801821114671Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
Definitely not.
Reminds me of that George Osborne clip of him off his tits at pmqs
Not quite in a K hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Maybe waiting for his Starlink connection to kick in.
I saw the headline and thought it was probably not a salute.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Then I saw the video. He definitely did a nazi salute (twice )and he has spent the last few weeks heavily promoting the far right in Germany, saying that the AfD are the only way to save the country. I mean, that's pretty close to being what you think he isn't, right?
It looks like he is trying to do Superman, but I don't want to spoil a good Musk is a Nazi story.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
A cognitive bias is a systematic pattern of deviation from norm or rationality in judgment. Individuals create their own "subjective reality" from their perception of the input. An individual's construction of reality, not the objective input, may dictate their behaviour in the world. Thus, cognitive biases may sometimes lead to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgment, illogical interpretation, and irrationality.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
BTW welcome back :biggrin:
That can work both ways. If I did that in the street and gave the explanation that has been given then a grand sum of completely nobody would believe me, yet half of America believes Elon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Fwiw my initial reaction is that I don't think he's trying to do a nazi salute because I don't actually think he is that dumb but am struggling to work out what the **** he is doing if it isn't.