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"I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
This subject has come from a question in the Drones discussion, and the title is using a comment made by Stevo.
So this matter can be discussed here instead of hijacking the other thread. On this occasion I was neither reponsible for the question on life after death or the fact that Jeepster doesn't want to live for ever, particularly now parenthood and CCFC have fulfilled all his earthly dreams.
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To pick up the thread:
I (TP) said: I don't really WANT to pay taxes, but the fact is, I have to. So the issue isn't about what we want, rather, what is.
Jeepster replied: So i do not have a choice?
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Well these bodies of ours do fall apart and are obviously not eternal, but according to 'the manufacturer' our spirit & soul cannot be destroyed. So planning for our eternal destiny is certainly recommended.
This article explains it this way:-
Seasons come and go, but does anything in this life truly satisfy? The answer in Ecclesiastes is, no, all is vanity (Ecclesiastes 1:2). However, through all the ups and downs and vicissitudes of life, we have a glimpse of stability
—God has “set eternity in the human heart” (Eccl 3:11).
"Life is but a vapour" (James 4:14), but we know there is something past this life. We have a divinely implanted awareness that the soul lives forever. This world is not our home.
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truthpaste
Question: What specifically led you to conclude that physical death is not the end?
I've always had a gut feeling that death is not the end, but what clinched it for me, was watching countless NDE videos on YouTube and other related topics. But I'm particularly interested in the reincarnation trap that's keeping us imprisoned on this planet. Worth noting that in the event of your death avoid the bright light and demand an alternative exit out of the darkness. You're welcome.
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stevo
I've always had a gut feeling that death is not the end, but what clinched it for me, was watching countless NDE videos on YouTube and other related topics. But I'm particularly interested in the reincarnation trap that's keeping us imprisoned on this planet. Worth noting that in the event of your death avoid the bright light and demand an alternative exit out of the darkness. You're welcome.
NDE in the majority of cases provide evidence that mirrors God's Word when it talks about the soul.
For example: "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows—was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell".
2 Corinthians 12:2-4.
Reincarnation is a false flag - read Hebrews 9:27.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Option 2: place head firmly in the sand.
Nothing new under the sun :tumbleweed:
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The theory I’ve heard is that there are good and bad aliens. The bad aliens essentially control this planet and are in collaboration with the US government (secret services, not Congress etc.) In return for advanced tech, the aliens are allowed to abduct so many people and mutilate so many cattle. Except the Americans don’t know these anliens anre evil and meanwhile the good aliens are keeping a watching brief. They are trying to drip feed us in terms of ufo disclosure. This started with the drones back in November and we can expect them to up the ante very soon.
It’s also the bad aliens who have created the reincarnation trap. Oh, and most importantly, they created religions to keep us in control. This is why the Bible is so well written for its age. They’re also the ones selecting people for NDEs to reinforce religious beliefs. Depending on what faith you have (or not) will determine who you meet in your NDE.
Now, I’m not saying any of this is true (or that I believe it), but it seems infinitely more believable that God / religion, etc.
Did you watch that video I posted in the drones thread?
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stevo
Did you watch that video I posted in the drones thread?
I've watched the first section up to the mention of 'God's' who walked among us. I will watch the rest hopefully tomorrow.
1. You are aware of the chapter concerning the 'Sons of God' in Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch I presume?
2. You say, "but it seems infinitely more believable that God / religion" - yet what factor/s do you base that on?
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truthpaste
Option 2: place head firmly in the sand.
Nothing new under the sun :tumbleweed:
It's a belter be honest ��
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It's a belter be honest ��
I wouldn't engage with the mindless lunatics on this thread if I'm honest. The amount of drugs they consume must be staggering.
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Well it's either this or the fkg superbowl and I am not getting involved in that cobblers
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truthpaste
I've watched the first section up to the mention of 'God's' who walked among us. I will watch the rest hopefully tomorrow.
1. You are aware of the chapter concerning the 'Sons of God' in Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch I presume?
2. You say, "but it seems infinitely more believable that God / religion" - yet what factor/s do you base that on?
Why do all your replies come from a book of crap.
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jeepster
Why do all your replies come from a book of crap.
I am having a dialogue with Stevo, so unless you have anything to add or ask I suggest you try and derail another thread because it's not going to happen here or anywhere else two adults are communicating with each other.
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truthpaste
I am having a dialogue with Stevo, so unless you have anything to add or ask I suggest you try and derail another thread because it's not going to happen here or anywhere else two adults are communicating with each other.
Touched a nerve did i?
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jeepster
Touched a nerve did i?
Sure, and it's taken me ages to recover from such a strategic and devastating attack :-)
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truthpaste
Sure, and it's taken me ages to recover from such a strategic and devastating attack :-)
Patience is a virtue which i thought as a man of god you would have in plenty.
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jeepster
Patience is a virtue which i thought as a man of god you would have in plenty.
I was excercising patience waiting for the person actually involved in this dialogue when you jumped in; Jesus excercised perfect patience, but He also explained that we should not suffer fools gladly.
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truthpaste
NDE in the majority of cases provide evidence that mirrors God's Word when it talks about the soul.
For example: "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows—was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell".
2 Corinthians 12:2-4.
Reincarnation is a false flag - read Hebrews 9:27.
A man in christ? I didn't think that was allowed amongst your lot
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chrisp_1927
A man in christ? I didn't think that was allowed amongst your lot
It's good to know that you are not entirely ignorant of what the scriptures say, well done.
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truthpaste
It's good to know that you are not entirely ignorant of what the scriptures say, well done.
To be honest. Entirely ignorant would probably be a pretty good description of my personality as a whole 🤣.
I do admire your perseverance in continuing to try and educate us godforsaken lot on here.
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truthpaste
I was excercising patience waiting for the person actually involved in this dialogue when you jumped in; Jesus excercised perfect patience, but He also explained that we should not suffer fools gladly.
Thanx. i think you are so clever:thumbup:
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chrisp_1927
To be honest. Entirely ignorant would probably be a pretty good description of my personality as a whole ��.
I do admire your perseverance in continuing to try and educate us godforsaken lot on here.
Well knowledge is a step in the right direction, but in the end we have to want and select what God is offering us.
God has not forsaken any individual, it is we who reject or accept Him, then we get to live & die with that permanent decision.
Here is a guy who apologises to Ray Comfort TEN YEARS after walking away from him, as in the last decade he discovered the truth for himself - Ten years on
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truthpaste
I've watched the first section up to the mention of 'God's' who walked among us. I will watch the rest hopefully tomorrow.
1. You are aware of the chapter concerning the 'Sons of God' in Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch I presume?
2. You say, "but it seems infinitely more believable that God / religion" - yet what factor/s do you base that on?
Sorry for the slow reply, although it looks like others here have kept you busy :hehe:
All my life I have kept an open mind on the possibility of alien life, although if I ever had to make a choice, I would have put money on us not being the only life in the Universe.
However, since the drone story that started at the end of last year, my interest in UFOs/aliens has been reignited. This led me on to the US Congressional hearings in 2023 and 2024, where this topic was being discussed candidly thanks to various high-ranking whistle blowers. We have already had disclosure on UFOs effectively, even though it's not being discussed much in the media, which is interesting in itself.
Now, if we now accept the fact that alien life exists and has visited this planet for decades, it seems reasonable to conclude that we have been visited for millennia. And if so, it would explain a lot of the mysteries surrounding Earth's history (ancient civilisations etc.) and religion, including many stories in the bible. Everything is starting to make sense to me.
The bottom line is, there is much more evidence to support the existence of alien life than the existence of (your) God. I've since learnt of many theories about all life in the Universe being a single consciousness, which has led me down a different spiritual path than you. Quantum physicists are starting to draw similar conclusions about the nature reality and the multi-dimensional universe. Everything is coming together nicely in our collective understanding of reality. And we can expect full UFO disclosure from the Trump administration this year (probably about the only thing they're good for, but that's another topic).
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stevo
Sorry for the slow reply, although it looks like others here have kept you busy :hehe:
All my life I have kept an open mind on the possibility of alien life, although if I ever had to make a choice, I would have put money on us not being the only life in the Universe.
However, since the drone story that started at the end of last year, my interest in UFOs/aliens has been reignited. This led me on to the US Congressional hearings in 2023 and 2024, where this topic was being discussed candidly thanks to various high-ranking whistle blowers. We have already had disclosure on UFOs effectively, even though it's not being discussed much in the media, which is interesting in itself.
Now, if we now accept the fact that alien life exists and has visited this planet for decades, it seems reasonable to conclude that we have been visited for millennia. And if so, it would explain a lot of the mysteries surrounding Earth's history (ancient civilisations etc.) and religion, including many stories in the bible. Everything is starting to make sense to me.
The bottom line is, there is much more evidence to support the existence of alien life than the existence of (your) God. I've since learnt of many theories about all life in the Universe being a single consciousness, which has led me down a different spiritual path than you. Quantum physicists are starting to draw similar conclusions about the nature reality and the multi-dimensional universe. Everything is coming together nicely in our collective understanding of reality. And we can expect full UFO disclosure from the Trump administration this year (probably about the only thing they're good for, but that's another topic).
Ok, so you have become aware that this 'flesh & blood' existence is not all there is to life. Agreed.
You have become aware of claims concerning the Nephelim, the Pyramids and other unexplained worldwide phenomena and you have sought answers to these.
Next you have found an answer that does the following:-
1. Gives an explanation that satisfies you and ties a lot of these mysteries together.
2. Mentions the Biblical accounts and plants seeds of doubt on their reliability.
3. Makes 'truth claims' about a large narritive based on texts left by the sumerians and other ancient peoples.
Would this be a fair summary of where you are up to now?
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truthpaste
I was excercising patience waiting for the person actually involved in this dialogue when you jumped in; Jesus excercised perfect patience, but He also explained that we should not suffer fools gladly.
Be patient but if we don't agree with God we get sent to hell
Well sod that then
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truthpaste
Ok, so you have become aware that this 'flesh & blood' existence is not all there is to life. Agreed.
You have become aware of claims concerning the Nephelim, the Pyramids and other unexplained worldwide phenomena and you have sought answers to these.
Next you have found an answer that does the following:-
1. Gives an explanation that satisfies you and ties a lot of these mysteries together.
2. Mentions the Biblical accounts and plants seeds of doubt on their reliability.
3. Makes 'truth claims' about a large narritive based on texts left by the sumerians and other ancient peoples.
Would this be a fair summary of where you are up to now?
You are dealing with a religious nutter here
You will never win
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SLUDGE FACTORY
You are dealing with a religious nutter here
You will never win
I see you as way off the mark as ever, I also hate religion because it serves to confuse people like yourself, and sadly it seems that you will never understand this :shrug:
Stevo isn't trying to win, without your permission he is asking questions of many things and looking a little deeper than this brief existence in time; I know that will annoy you but try to deal with it as best you can :thumbup:
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truthpaste
Ok, so you have become aware that this 'flesh & blood' existence is not all there is to life. Agreed.
You have become aware of claims concerning the Nephelim, the Pyramids and other unexplained worldwide phenomena and you have sought answers to these.
Next you have found an answer that does the following:-
1. Gives an explanation that satisfies you and ties a lot of these mysteries together.
2. Mentions the Biblical accounts and plants seeds of doubt on their reliability.
3. Makes 'truth claims' about a large narritive based on texts left by the sumerians and other ancient peoples.
Would this be a fair summary of where you are up to now?
Yes, let's go with that for now, although I'm struggling to think of any related mystery right now that is not explained by my answer.
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stevo
Yes, let's go with that for now, although I'm struggling to think of any related mystery right now that is not explained by my answer.
Your 'answer' being your video I suppose?
So how is your investigation for related facts going re the sources for all their claims?
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I was going to ask you a similar question. How do you think the pyramids were built? How is there staggering similarity in ancient buildings and artifacts that span the globe? How did they make these things thousands of years ago that we'd struggle to achieve today?
Where does Gobleki Tepe fit in with your history and narrative?
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Not to mention "drones", UFOs, etc.
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truthpaste
I see you as way off the mark as ever, I also hate religion because it serves to confuse people like yourself, and sadly it seems that you will never understand this :shrug:
Stevo isn't trying to win, without your permission he is asking questions of many things and looking a little deeper than this brief existence in time; I know that will annoy you but try to deal with it as best you can :thumbup:
I think he's wasting his time but if you enjoy talking nonsense and getting someone to engage then it's a free country
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I think he's wasting his time but if you enjoy talking nonsense and getting someone to engage then it's a free country
Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
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stevo
Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
A Comet ?
A sale at Home Bargains ?
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Well, we are both wasting our time really because Truthpaste and I know that we're never going to change each others minds. But we do agree that we're on the verge of a world-changing event. So, we'll know who's right soon enough.
Match of The Day
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It's not even a fair contest really, given the US Government has already started the ball rolling on alien and UAP disclosure. And you only have to spend 5 minutes of your time looking into the subject's recent events to conclude that we're not alone in this universe.
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It's not even a fair contest really, given the US Government has already started the ball rolling on alien and UAP disclosure. And you only have to spend 5 minutes of your time looking into the subject's recent events to conclude that we're not alone in this universe.
If they come from some distant planet they are unlikely to be Christians....
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Taunton Blue Genie
If they come from some distant planet they are unlikely to be Christians....
Truthpaste will be along soon to belittle you or read you a page out of the book
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Be patient but if we don't agree with God we get sent to hell
Well sod that then
Purgatory?
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Heathblue
Purgatory?
The Waiting Room for Hell. Sludge has just jumped to the end game.
Better to opt for the Mead Halls of Thor with all your old mates from the Ninian Stand shield wall before Ragnarok kicks in.
A much better party than purgatory!
