Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
Soft drinks
Chocolate
Sweets
Cakes
Ice cream
Breakfast pastries
Puddings
Sweet biscuits
Cereals
Yoghurts
Milk-based drinks with added sugar
Juice-based drinks with added sugar
Pizza
Crisps and savoury snacks
Ready meals
Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
Chips and other potato products
Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
"We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
"If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
"Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
"Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
"The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity

To be fair, they're not. They're just trying to make it so that people don't pick up rubbish on the way in and on the way out of shop. They're not saying you can't buy it.

If a fat person finds it that much of a chore to walk a couple of aisles to get their mars bar then, to be fair, it'd probably be helpful to make them get that extra bit of exercise, or to leave it.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
Soft drinks
Chocolate
Sweets
Cakes
Ice cream
Breakfast pastries
Puddings
Sweet biscuits
Cereals
Yoghurts
Milk-based drinks with added sugar
Juice-based drinks with added sugar
Pizza
Crisps and savoury snacks
Ready meals
Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
Chips and other potato products
Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
"We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
"If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
"Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
"Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
"The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity

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Poor old Sludge first they clamp down on PIP now they are moving his shopping list an extra forty steps :shrug:

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
Soft drinks
Chocolate
Sweets
Cakes
Ice cream
Breakfast pastries
Puddings
Sweet biscuits
Cereals
Yoghurts
Milk-based drinks with added sugar
Juice-based drinks with added sugar
Pizza
Crisps and savoury snacks
Ready meals
Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
Chips and other potato products
Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
"We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
"If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
"Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
"Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
"The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity

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Iceland will have to have the first twenty rows from the tills empty? :hehe:

Stop voting for them! They do what they like cos they think they will get in every time, becUsr they do get in every time!

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Stop voting for them! They do what they like cos they think they will get in every time, becUsr they do get in every time!

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If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!

No mention of turkey twizzlers or white cider thankfully.

Good, because we're a nation of fat unhealthy *****. I understand there are loads more factors involved in making poor decisions, but i think it's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!

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Remember when Tesco and the like had mountains of booze at the entrance to their stores? That was stopped as well, good. They were loss makers as well, hoping people would buy other stuff on top that compensated for it.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Remember when Tesco and the like had mountains of booze at the entrance to their stores? That was stopped as well, good. They were loss makers as well, hoping people would buy other stuff on top that compensated for it.

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I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
Soft drinks
Chocolate
Sweets
Cakes
Ice cream
Breakfast pastries
Puddings
Sweet biscuits
Cereals
Yoghurts
Milk-based drinks with added sugar
Juice-based drinks with added sugar
Pizza
Crisps and savoury snacks
Ready meals
Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
Chips and other potato products
Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
"We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
"If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
"Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
"Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not nice they could ban theforcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
"The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity

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Wonderful Idea! More power to their elbow! Any chance they could completely ban cigarette smoking throughout the entirety of Wales? What a breath of fresh air that would be!

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

To be fair, they're not. They're just trying to make it so that people don't pick up rubbish on the way in and on the way out of shop. They're not saying you can't buy it.

If a fat person finds it that much of a chore to walk a couple of aisles to get their mars bar then, to be fair, it'd probably be helpful to make them get that extra bit of exercise, or to leave it.

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This. The original poster is talking out of his arse.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!

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It's just a total waste of everyones time and an example of nannying that doesn't work

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing

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There's definitely some complaining to do, Education, living standards, erosion of employment rights, waiting lists, a demoralised NHS..... But never mind, those ****ers down the bay are getting Aldi to move the frozen pizza..... It's where we're at, sadly.

To be honest I don't have a massive problem with it, anything that adds some friction to the purchase isn't a bad thing. It's also not going to effect the profit and loss of Tesco or Cadburys, all they will do as add a few pence to an item to make up for the percentage loss on impulse purchases.

It isn't going to stop obese people being obese though, but it might help the average person that picks up crap unnecessarily. Someone that wants the item will get the item and I'm all for freedom of choice.

They had a meeting and said these daft taffy twits are so thick they keep voting us in. We had better protect them they are so thick that if a shop sticks something in sight that they don't want they are so dull they will buy them, make the shops move them to save our thickest citizens (our voters) from dying young though too much monster munch and pepsi.

Aye good idea, and let's let some more prisoners out and think up some other daft ideas its what they want from us obviously.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing

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Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.

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You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate:hehe:

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Originally Posted by splott parker

You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate:hehe:

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.

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They'll probably issue mobility scooters for those that can't walk the extra distance to find them..

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Originally Posted by splott parker

You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate:hehe:

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And bullying thugs are allowed to rob pensioners whenever they wish. Yup, I can see a certain type of person loving that.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.

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There’s quite a few people on this post who object to it, like the op with the misleading subject.

I don’t disagree there are other things to think and talk about, but that’s a different conversation.

I don’t think doing simple things that help protect fat and / or stupid people from themselves is necessarily a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

There’s quite a few people on this post who object to it, like the op with the misleading subject.

I don’t disagree there are other things to think and talk about, but that’s a different conversation.

I don’t think doing simple things that help protect fat and / or stupid people from themselves is necessarily a bad thing.

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Fair play, live and direct, love it.... :hehe: :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

We had better protect them they are so thick that if a shop sticks something in sight that they don't want they are so dull they will buy them, make the shops move them to save our thickest citizens (our voters) from dying young though too much monster munch and pepsi.
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I gather you were being sarcastic judging by the extra unrelated paragraph about prisoner release or something, but you nailed it with this. It seems like a good idea to me.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

It's just a total waste of everyones time and an example of nannying that doesn't work

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It's not though is it. That's just an irrational overreaction.

It's not a waste of your time, my time, anyone on here. Unless you work in a shop, and that's for a couple of days or nights where stuff gets moved. And you'll get paid for that, maybe even some overtime.

If you feel the extra 30 second walk to the next aisle gets your goat too much, you can always save the calories and buy your sugary treats from Amazon

Chocolate, sweets, sugary drinks and pastries should be on shelves that can only be approached by squeezing through narrow gaps between vertical poles.
Smokers should have to go up three floors to buy their baccy and without using a lift.

I get why they are doing it, not sure how successful it will be though. What doesn’t make sense is a Welsh council putting up pitch hire costs by around 70%!! How will that encourage exercise through team sport?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Chocolate, sweets, sugary drinks and pastries should be on shelves that can only be approached by squeezing through narrow gaps between vertical poles.
Smokers should have to go up three floors to buy their baccy and without using a lift.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

It's not though is it. That's just an irrational overreaction.

It's not a waste of your time, my time, anyone on here. Unless you work in a shop, and that's for a couple of days or nights where stuff gets moved. And you'll get paid for that, maybe even some overtime.

If you feel the extra 30 second walk to the next aisle gets your goat too much, you can always save the calories and buy your sugary treats from Amazon

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I love it 👍

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Chocolate, sweets, sugary drinks and pastries should be on shelves that can only be approached by squeezing through narrow gaps between vertical poles.
Smokers should have to go up three floors to buy their baccy and without using a lift.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by bluesp

I get why they are doing it, not sure how successful it will be though. What doesn’t make sense is a Welsh council putting up pitch hire costs by around 70%!! How will that encourage exercise through team sport?

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When Westminster decides to fund local authorities properly, perhaps things like this will change. Sadly, cuts from Westminster keep happening, and that makes up a large amount of their income. Council tax makes up less than a fifth of their income, so while that goes up it appears that councils get more money and still cut services, yet the truth is their income goes down overall year on year. Very few realise this.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

When Westminster decides to fund local authorities properly, perhaps things like this will change. Sadly, cuts from Westminster keep happening, and that makes up a large amount of their income. Council tax makes up less than a fifth of their income, so while that goes up it appears that councils get more money and still cut services, yet the truth is their income goes down overall year on year. Very few realise this.

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

It's not though is it. That's just an irrational overreaction.

It's not a waste of your time, my time, anyone on here. Unless you work in a shop, and that's for a couple of days or nights where stuff gets moved. And you'll get paid for that, maybe even some overtime.

If you feel the extra 30 second walk to the next aisle gets your goat too much, you can always save the calories and buy your sugary treats from Amazon

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It is a total waste of politicians time that will achieve nothing whatsoever.

What mostly frustrates me about this crap is that it always penalises in person shopping which by definition is far healthier in terms of calorie burning etc.

Anyone can sit at home and order what they like on the internet. The WG have actively encouraged people to sit on their arses at home instead of coming into work, they discourage visiting city and town centres via parking charges not realizing no one needs to visit them anymore.

It's a waste of time and it's symbolic of a clueless government incapable of solving a single thing they are tasked with.

And thats why they need more MS's (something I'm not opposed to btw) to come up with more utterly pointless things like this that make not a jot of difference just slightly inconveniencing people.

Lidl and Aldi stopped sweets at counters years ago btw. Are their average shoppers healthier? Not in my experience.

Getting rid of BOGOF deals will just hit the poor who god forbid may want to treat their children from time to time. The rich don't rely on such details.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

When Westminster decides to fund local authorities properly, perhaps things like this will change. Sadly, cuts from Westminster keep happening, and that makes up a large amount of their income. Council tax makes up less than a fifth of their income, so while that goes up it appears that councils get more money and still cut services, yet the truth is their income goes down overall year on year. Very few realise this.

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Exactly this. Down by 27% since 2010, so councils only have the options of cutting services or raising council tax and/or business rates. People are generally too quick to blame their local council without seeing the bigger picture.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Exactly this. Down by 27% since 2010, so councils only have the options of cutting services or raising council tax and/or business rates. People are generally too quick to blame their local council without seeing the bigger picture.

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True, but it also is not the case that Westminster (or the Welsh Govt) is just sat there withholding money that they have and choosing to be mean.

There is a lot going on. It's not a simple battle between Central and local govt. Labour peddled that line when the Tories were in power but the same is happening now (and will continue).

Things are going to get worse too I fear.

Well to be fair James, while I don’t agree with a lot of your sentiment normally, you do generally have a reasoned argument. I’ve got to say on this the only thing you mention that’s relevant to the post ie that “It is a total waste of politicians time that will achieve nothing whatsoever” is based on nothing other than your opinion.

It doesn’t penalise in person shopping, unless you can tell me how? In what way is someone penalised? You say that anyone can sit at home and order what they like, but you can go to the shop and buy what you like. In a different aisle?

This isn’t online v instore shopping. If we were to compare those then it would be the equivalent of having popups for McCoys every two seconds while you’re doing your online shop.

I’m aware that Lidl and Aldi stopped sweets at the tills a long time ago, but I’m not convinced you’ve based your experience of them not being healthier on anything? But one thing is for sure, their customers have bought less shit at the checkout.

Getting rid of BOGOF doesn’t hit the poor. BOGOF deals encourage people to buy more of the shit they don’t need. Do you see them on apples, chicken etc? I’m all for giving the kids a treat, and you can equally buy them at a better price elsewhere rather than BOGOF.

I just think that any small change that encourages a healthier country is a good thing, especially if it helps people who might genuinely not know what’s necessarily bad for them, or to what extent.

Some people just don’t like having their sweets moved

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Well to be fair James, while I don’t agree with a lot of your sentiment normally, you do generally have a reasoned argument. I’ve got to say on this the only thing you mention that’s relevant to the post ie that “It is a total waste of politicians time that will achieve nothing whatsoever” is based on nothing other than your opinion.

It doesn’t penalise in person shopping, unless you can tell me how? In what way is someone penalised? You say that anyone can sit at home and order what they like, but you can go to the shop and buy what you like. In a different aisle?

This isn’t online v instore shopping. If we were to compare those then it would be the equivalent of having popups for McCoys every two seconds while you’re doing your online shop.

I’m aware that Lidl and Aldi stopped sweets at the tills a long time ago, but I’m not convinced you’ve based your experience of them not being healthier on anything? But one thing is for sure, their customers have bought less shit at the checkout.

Getting rid of BOGOF doesn’t hit the poor. BOGOF deals encourage people to buy more of the shit they don’t need. Do you see them on apples, chicken etc? I’m all for giving the kids a treat, and you can equally buy them at a better price elsewhere rather than BOGOF.

I just think that any small change that encourages a healthier country is a good thing, especially if it helps people who might genuinely not know what’s necessarily bad for them, or to what extent.

Some people just don’t like having their sweets moved

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Thank you for the first comments, I do try!

I think it's a waste of time in several respects;

1/The senedd should have far better things to do
2/ I don't think it works. As you say, people will just get it anyway. In many cases they may end up buying more. Personally I don't tend to go down those aisles at all with kids but may buy them the odd treat at the counter
3 / Banning bogofs absolutely will hit the poorer more. We all like a treat and like to treat our kids sometimes, why should people be penalized for having less money? I have far far less of an issue with removing sweets from tills, it's how it's wrapped up in this nannying crap that annoys me
4 / I do view this as yet another little burden on in-person stuff and I think physical interactions and mixing is critical for mental and physical wellbeing. This is of course a far lesser example of this than many policies. I would be encouraging in-person shopping, not making it harder.

5 / Is there any evidence this will work? I don't believe it. We live more and more sedentary lives, we aren't burning the calories we consume and living in Wales feels increasingly depressing. There are a hundred other things to focus on than this.

I know BTL comments are notoriously lively and not necessarily representative but they are scathing here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...3yq0o#comments

My favourite comment is probably this one:

"We could be losing our leisure centres in Denbighshire and yet their is an emphasis on getting kids to lose weight." (liked 91 times, disliked 5 times).

I know you can walk and chew gum at the same time, but this kind of thing just makes me realise how utterly inept and incapable our politicians in Cardiff Bay are.

Supermarkets have been playing mind games with consumers for years, trying to influence our purchasing decisions. Their only motivation is profit as they couldn't give a hoot about our health. Now that the government are trying to do something about it, for our benefit, people don't like it.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

It is a total waste of politicians time that will achieve nothing whatsoever.

What mostly frustrates me about this crap is that it always penalises in person shopping which by definition is far healthier in terms of calorie burning etc.

Anyone can sit at home and order what they like on the internet. The WG have actively encouraged people to sit on their arses at home instead of coming into work, they discourage visiting city and town centres via parking charges not realizing no one needs to visit them anymore.

It's a waste of time and it's symbolic of a clueless government incapable of solving a single thing they are tasked with.

And thats why they need more MS's (something I'm not opposed to btw) to come up with more utterly pointless things like this that make not a jot of difference just slightly inconveniencing people.

Lidl and Aldi stopped sweets at counters years ago btw. Are their average shoppers healthier? Not in my experience.

Getting rid of BOGOF deals will just hit the poor who god forbid may want to treat their children from time to time. The rich don't rely on such details.

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Nice to see you caring about the poor Jim, fair play.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Nice to see you caring about the poor Jim, fair play.

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Always have, always will.