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Thread: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

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    Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Havent these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

    Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
    The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
    The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
    Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
    Smaller shops and those specialising in one product such as sweet shops and chocolatiers will be exempt.
    The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
    The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
    Soft drinks
    Chocolate
    Sweets
    Cakes
    Ice cream
    Breakfast pastries
    Puddings
    Sweet biscuits
    Cereals
    Yoghurts
    Milk-based drinks with added sugar
    Juice-based drinks with added sugar
    Pizza
    Crisps and savoury snacks
    Ready meals
    Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
    Chips and other potato products
    Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
    Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
    Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
    Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
    "We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
    "If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
    Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
    "Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
    "Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
    Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
    "The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
    He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
    But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
    'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    To be fair, they're not. They're just trying to make it so that people don't pick up rubbish on the way in and on the way out of shop. They're not saying you can't buy it.

    If a fat person finds it that much of a chore to walk a couple of aisles to get their mars bar then, to be fair, it'd probably be helpful to make them get that extra bit of exercise, or to leave it.

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

    Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
    The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
    The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
    Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
    Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
    The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
    The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
    Soft drinks
    Chocolate
    Sweets
    Cakes
    Ice cream
    Breakfast pastries
    Puddings
    Sweet biscuits
    Cereals
    Yoghurts
    Milk-based drinks with added sugar
    Juice-based drinks with added sugar
    Pizza
    Crisps and savoury snacks
    Ready meals
    Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
    Chips and other potato products
    Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
    Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
    Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
    Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
    "We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
    "If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
    Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
    "Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
    "Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
    Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
    "The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
    He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
    But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
    'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity
    Poor old Sludge first they clamp down on PIP now they are moving his shopping list an extra forty steps

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Haven’t these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

    Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
    The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
    The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
    Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
    Smaller shops and those specialising in one product – such as sweet shops and chocolatiers – will be exempt.
    The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
    The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
    Soft drinks
    Chocolate
    Sweets
    Cakes
    Ice cream
    Breakfast pastries
    Puddings
    Sweet biscuits
    Cereals
    Yoghurts
    Milk-based drinks with added sugar
    Juice-based drinks with added sugar
    Pizza
    Crisps and savoury snacks
    Ready meals
    Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
    Chips and other potato products
    Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
    Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
    Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
    Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
    "We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
    "If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
    Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
    "Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
    "Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active – not forcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
    Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
    "The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
    He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
    But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
    'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity
    Iceland will have to have the first twenty rows from the tills empty?

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    Stop voting for them! They do what they like cos they think they will get in every time, becUsr they do get in every time!

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Stop voting for them! They do what they like cos they think they will get in every time, becUsr they do get in every time!
    If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!

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    No mention of turkey twizzlers or white cider thankfully.

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    Good, because we're a nation of fat unhealthy *****. I understand there are loads more factors involved in making poor decisions, but i think it's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!
    Remember when Tesco and the like had mountains of booze at the entrance to their stores? That was stopped as well, good. They were loss makers as well, hoping people would buy other stuff on top that compensated for it.

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Remember when Tesco and the like had mountains of booze at the entrance to their stores? That was stopped as well, good. They were loss makers as well, hoping people would buy other stuff on top that compensated for it.
    I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
    It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Havent these idiots got more important things to discuss !!!!

    Supermarkets will be banned from displaying unhealthy snacks near tills or on their website homepages from next year after the Senedd narrowly approved obesity-tackling plans.
    The new rules mean junk foods including pizza, chocolate, and cereal will have to be removed from shop entrances and the end of aisles, while sugary drink refills and some buy-one-get-one-free deals will also end.
    The restrictions are aimed at stopping impulse buys at key selling spots in businesses with 50 or more employees, with shops found breaching them to face a fine.
    Health Secretary Jeremy Miles said the rules, which will come into force in March 2026, would help "tackle Wales' growing obesity problem".
    Smaller shops and those specialising in one product such as sweet shops and chocolatiers will be exempt.
    The restrictions form part of a wider programme of measures, including encouraging manufacturers to revise ingredients in other products.
    The full list of foods which are "of most concern to childhood obesity", and therefore will not be allowed in key selling areas, are:
    Soft drinks
    Chocolate
    Sweets
    Cakes
    Ice cream
    Breakfast pastries
    Puddings
    Sweet biscuits
    Cereals
    Yoghurts
    Milk-based drinks with added sugar
    Juice-based drinks with added sugar
    Pizza
    Crisps and savoury snacks
    Ready meals
    Processed meat products such as burgers, chicken nuggets, breaded chicken/fish
    Chips and other potato products
    Unhealthy snack offers face Wales ban next year
    Free drink refills could be banned in Wales
    Unhealthy meal deals will be restricted in Wales
    Following a vote on the proposals in the Senedd this week, which saw them just pass by 25 votes to 24, Mr Miles said the move would have "a significant impact on the health of our nation for years to come".
    "We want to make it easier for people to make healthier choices and we'll achieve this by improving the food environment around them," he added.
    "If we ensure healthier food and drinks are more available, accessible and visible to people in shops and stores, it will support our efforts to reduce obesity rates and improve public health."
    Reacting to the outcome, James Evans MS, the Welsh Conservatives' health and social care representative, described the rules as "nanny state nonsense".
    "Keir Starmer promised to ease the cost of living and hasn't, with Welsh Labour following suit here by pushing up costs for working people," he said.
    "Welsh Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Efforts to tackle obesity must be focussed on providing support for grassroots sports clubs, increase the amount of sport played in schools, and encouraging more people to get active not nice they could ban theforcibly pushing up the price of the weekly shop."
    Mabon ap Gwynfor, Plaid Cymru's health representative, warned obesity places "huge pressures" on health and care services, but accused ministers of offering "half a solution".
    "The stick is useful," he said. "But you need the carrot too. The regulations therefore are entirely inadequate."
    He added there was "little detail on how the policy will be implemented" and said the public would see it as "the government once again preventing people from doing things".
    But Miles hit back at accusations there has been a lack of public engagement, saying the proposals had been subject to two 12-week consultations.
    'Cheap junk food to blame' for obesity
    Wonderful Idea! More power to their elbow! Any chance they could completely ban cigarette smoking throughout the entirety of Wales? What a breath of fresh air that would be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    To be fair, they're not. They're just trying to make it so that people don't pick up rubbish on the way in and on the way out of shop. They're not saying you can't buy it.

    If a fat person finds it that much of a chore to walk a couple of aisles to get their mars bar then, to be fair, it'd probably be helpful to make them get that extra bit of exercise, or to leave it.
    This. The original poster is talking out of his arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    If these charlatans get away with moving your crisps, putting up the cost of your booze, before long they will be coming for your vapes! Down with that sort of thing!
    It's just a total waste of everyones time and an example of nannying that doesn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
    It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing
    There's definitely some complaining to do, Education, living standards, erosion of employment rights, waiting lists, a demoralised NHS..... But never mind, those ****ers down the bay are getting Aldi to move the frozen pizza..... It's where we're at, sadly.

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    To be honest I don't have a massive problem with it, anything that adds some friction to the purchase isn't a bad thing. It's also not going to effect the profit and loss of Tesco or Cadburys, all they will do as add a few pence to an item to make up for the percentage loss on impulse purchases.

    It isn't going to stop obese people being obese though, but it might help the average person that picks up crap unnecessarily. Someone that wants the item will get the item and I'm all for freedom of choice.

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    They had a meeting and said these daft taffy twits are so thick they keep voting us in. We had better protect them they are so thick that if a shop sticks something in sight that they don't want they are so dull they will buy them, make the shops move them to save our thickest citizens (our voters) from dying young though too much monster munch and pepsi.

    Aye good idea, and let's let some more prisoners out and think up some other daft ideas its what they want from us obviously.

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I don't really understand why people object to simple things like this if I'm honest. I can only presume shares in Tesco
    It's like people think that buying their Pringles from aisle 3 instead of the entrance is an infringement on their freedom to choose. Maybe the fact people don't have the energy to go that extra 20 steps is an indication that this isn't a bad thing
    Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.
    You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.
    They'll probably issue mobility scooters for those that can't walk the extra distance to find them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    You need to move to a place where drunk drivers drive at 70mph, munching on Easter Eggs in between chain smoking, freedom to do what you like for all, Steve Wright’s ‘Mr Angry’ reincarnate
    And bullying thugs are allowed to rob pensioners whenever they wish. Yup, I can see a certain type of person loving that.

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Nobody objects to it, it's just that while Rome burns they move the fecking pringles in the shops ffs.
    Theres quite a few people on this post who object to it, like the op with the misleading subject.

    I dont disagree there are other things to think and talk about, but thats a different conversation.

    I dont think doing simple things that help protect fat and / or stupid people from themselves is necessarily a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    Theres quite a few people on this post who object to it, like the op with the misleading subject.

    I dont disagree there are other things to think and talk about, but thats a different conversation.

    I dont think doing simple things that help protect fat and / or stupid people from themselves is necessarily a bad thing.
    Fair play, live and direct, love it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    We had better protect them they are so thick that if a shop sticks something in sight that they don't want they are so dull they will buy them, make the shops move them to save our thickest citizens (our voters) from dying young though too much monster munch and pepsi.
    .
    I gather you were being sarcastic judging by the extra unrelated paragraph about prisoner release or something, but you nailed it with this. It seems like a good idea to me.

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    Re: Welsh government forcing more what to buy laws on us !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    It's just a total waste of everyones time and an example of nannying that doesn't work
    It's not though is it. That's just an irrational overreaction.

    It's not a waste of your time, my time, anyone on here. Unless you work in a shop, and that's for a couple of days or nights where stuff gets moved. And you'll get paid for that, maybe even some overtime.

    If you feel the extra 30 second walk to the next aisle gets your goat too much, you can always save the calories and buy your sugary treats from Amazon

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