Man Of The Match

Wintle was immense so I think he deserves the acolade of MOM today

a shout out to our keeper too who produced some saves when it mattered and of course both our goal scorers

who's your choice ?

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Rubin.

Kpacio is clearly a real talent. Faded last 15.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

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Gary Player's fit for his age but he would struggle to get through 90 minutes nowadays.

Winter by country mile. He was on his own in the centre much of the game.

Kpakio was my MOTM. Very good battle against Peterborough's nippy Number 10, scored the wonder goal in the second, and was a constant presence and thorn in most Boro attacks.

Wintle played very well too, as did Rubin and I was very impressed by Turner in goal too.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Rubin.

Kpacio is clearly a real talent. Faded last 15.

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He’s got something, but he’s young, and is still learning the game. He must learn not to over-commit himself. He got caught out half a dozen times this afternoon, and a better side would have taken advantage of his lack of experience. Peterborough gradually directed everything down that side. Over on the left, Bagan had a pretty quiet game.

R Cowlill by a country mile. Scored a superb free kick and laid on several other chances for his team mates. Looked like a big boy playing against younger kids when he got on the ball.

Kpakio and Wintle the best of the rest.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

He’s got something, but he’s young, and is still learning the game. He must learn not to over-commit himself. He got caught out half a dozen times this afternoon, and a better side would have taken advantage of his lack of experience. Peterborough gradually directed everything down that side. Over on the left, Bagan had a pretty quiet game.

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You must have watched a different game. He was composed way beyond his 18 years in possession of the ball and scored a great goal.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You must have watched a different game. He was composed way beyond his 18 years in possession of the ball and scored a great goal.

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But he was caught out wrong side of his defender, a lot in the final 15. So great start and learn from it to become even better

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Originally Posted by Q

But he was caught out wrong side of his defender, a lot in the final 15. So great start and learn from it to become even better

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Let’s just forget about the first 75 then plus he wasn’t given any help by Tanner all game.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

He’s got something, but he’s young, and is still learning the game. He must learn not to over-commit himself. He got caught out half a dozen times this afternoon, and a better side would have taken advantage of his lack of experience. Peterborough gradually directed everything down that side. Over on the left, Bagan had a pretty quiet game.

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Spot on , the last 10 minutes he got dispossessed a couple of times by fannying about , played very well overall though

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

Wintle was immense so I think he deserves the acolade of MOM today

a shout out to our keeper too who produced some saves when it mattered and of course both our goal scorers

who's your choice ?

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Kpakio, faded towards the end and almost cost 2 points but he be better for the experience and a probable bollocking from the manager for the not needed fancy stuff when row Z was needed in the last 10 mins, thought the keeper did OK.

R Colwill easily

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

Think one or two on here like to look for someone to have a go at.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

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Tanner??????

Wintle for me, with Rubin a very close second. Nobody had a poor game.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

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Nothing of the sort, im sure BBM will pick up on these lapses, but fans arent allowed to highlight them?

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Think one or two on here like to look for someone to have a go at.

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I wonder what gives you that idea?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

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I thought Tanner had a good game. He was playing in front of me in the opening half so I had a very good look at him, and his first touch was superb.

A few good performances today. The midfield 3 were all good, but Wintle probably edges it for me for MOTM. Kpakio was good but had his moments towards the end which can be expected, he's an outstanding prospect along with Lawlor who struggled after his booking. I think Tanner was very good too, always available and linked up well with JC. I do think we need tk sometimes get the ball into the box a bit earlier for Yousef. The 3 times Tanner did get it in early created three very good chances.

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Originally Posted by Joe Gillis

Nothing of the sort, im sure BBM will pick up on these lapses, but fans arent allowed to highlight them?

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Crazy, init!

As you said, the manager will certainly give Kpakio a pat on the back and then go over one or two things he'd like to iron out. However, as a fan, you daren't discuss this on a message board. :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

Crazy, init!

As you said, the manager will certainly give Kpakio a pat on the back and then go over one or two things he'd like to iron out. However, as a fan, you daren't discuss this on a message board. :facepalm:

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Just think a thread started to discuss who was man of the match should be positive in tone, but, instead,we get messages making no other point than to be critical of a teenager who scored the winning goal from full back and appeared in the thread because someone thought he was a candidate for man of the match. There’s no reference to who our best player was in these messages, just critical comments about one player. Kpakio seems to be a pretty intelligent footballer to me and he’ll probably know what he’ll need to improve on, but I’d also say the point that he got no support from our right winger in that incident when he lost posssession is a fair one.

As for our wingers, I’d make the observation that, if they’re going to stay wider under this manager (which seems to be the case on the evidence we’ve seen so far) wouldn’t it be better for them to play on their “natural” side (i.e. Ashford on the right and Tanner on the left)? If wingers are being told to stay wide, aren’t they more likely to want to take on their marker on the outside hence it being likely that they will be crossing from positions what I’ll call traditional wingers would get into?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Tanner??????

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Sorry Bob, but Tanner wasted so much good possession down the left, or was I watching a different game ?!

One decent cross in the first half out of what seemed maybe 10 to 15 touches!

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I thought Tanner had a good game. He was playing in front of me in the opening half so I had a very good look at him, and his first touch was superb.

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Did you have your guide dog with you? First half he lost possesion half a dozen times from poor first touch or over hitting simple passes. He also passed the buck a couple of times when he could have shot or cross himself.

He improved after the break and helped assist the 2nd goal but wasted a lot of good positions first half.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Did you have your guide dog with you? First half he lost possesion half a dozen times from poor first touch or over hitting simple passes. He also passed the buck a couple of times when he could have shot or cross himself.

He improved after the break and helped assist the 2nd goal but wasted a lot of good positions first half.

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Perfect summery of how I saw it as well :thumbup:

Kept on giving poor passes, instead of taking responsibility himself

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Did you have your guide dog with you? First half he lost possesion half a dozen times from poor first touch or over hitting simple passes. He also passed the buck a couple of times when he could have shot or cross himself.

He improved after the break and helped assist the 2nd goal but wasted a lot of good positions first half.

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I haven't seen any of the highlights and was working yesterday. It sounds like we played well, but what were Peterborough like? I have zero knowledge of this division.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I haven't seen any of the highlights and was working yesterday. It sounds like we played well, but what were Peterborough like? I have zero knowledge of this division.

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It's hard to know. Wimbledon were worse.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Wintle for me, with Rubin a very close second. Nobody had a poor game.

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The 2 centre backs?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I haven't seen any of the highlights and was working yesterday. It sounds like we played well, but what were Peterborough like? I have zero knowledge of this division.

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They were poor. Of course, it's the first game of the season and they could go on to be anything in the long run, but to me they looked a weak side and not very physically robust by League One standards.

Peterborough finished 18th last season. They conceded more goals (81) than any other side apart from Crawley, who were relegated. To put that into perspective, City conceded 73 goals last season in the Championship while finishing bottom.

There were some very encouraging performances yesterday and it was an enjoyable game to watch, but I have a feeling that Peterborough at home was an ideal fixture for a young and somewhat experimental City side to begin with and there will be much stiffer tests to come.

Apparently, Peterborough lost several of their best players over the summer. I'd never heard of any of them other than Ricky-Jade Jones, who we were supposed to have been interested in signing at one stage, but the Racing Post pundits suggested they were 'influential'.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I haven't seen any of the highlights and was working yesterday. It sounds like we played well, but what were Peterborough like? I have zero knowledge of this division.

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Hard to tell what the standard is in terms of the league as we completely dominated the ball and wasted some good positions first half. You could tell straight away there was a gulf between the two sides, it was just a case of getting R Colwill on the ball and ticking. They seemed to be happy to hang in there first half and scored off a penalty from their first real attack.

2nd half we came flying out of the traps and turned the game around straight away. Then it was back to them hanging in there but us being wasteful again and we didn’t put them to bed. They had a bit of a go last 10 mins plus 10 mins of injury time and Turner had to make one very good save near the end, but it would have been undeserved if they somehow managed to pinch the draw.

I think better teams will hurt us more defensively but going forward we looked really good even if we did waste some good chances and positions.

8/10 performance for me.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

The 2 centre backs?

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Poor is a bit unfair but they were certainly the weaker players in our side yesterday. Both got a bit nervous and shaky after Lawlor was booked and then shortly after Fish gave the ball away cheaply which led to him then giving the penalty away. Both certainly needed half time to compose themselves and I felt Lawlor was treading on eggshells so it was the right decision to hook him before he got booked again and sent off.

I don’t think both can play together at the moment, they don’t have any experience, it needs to be one or the other with an experienced centre half.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Sorry Bob, but Tanner wasted so much good possession down the left, or was I watching a different game ?!

One decent cross in the first half out of what seemed maybe 10 to 15 touches!

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He was also asleep half the time, plenty of passes played out to him that he hadn't read the flight of and cost us possession

There are times with Tanner that you can see the talent that's there, but his concentration and ability to read the game are lacking

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Poor is a bit unfair but they were certainly the weaker players in our side yesterday. Both got a bit nervous and shaky after Lawlor was booked and then shortly after Fish gave the ball away cheaply which led to him then giving the penalty away. Both certainly needed half time to compose themselves and I felt Lawlor was treading on eggshells so it was the right decision to hook him before he got booked again and sent off.

I don’t think both can play together at the moment, they don’t have any experience, it needs to be one or the other with an experienced centre half.

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I think that's fair. One thing I'd not about Lawlor is he looked more comfortable on the ball than Fish and was regularly playing the ball directly into midfield with accuracy, players seemed to trust him to take his time on it too. Fish's passing by contrast was pretty telegraphed and led to the penalty award

I think one of them will come out for Chambers initially, I think it depends how highly you value passing it out from the back. It may be bias as I don't rate him but I didn't feel particularly comfortable when Daland came on

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Did you have your guide dog with you? First half he lost possesion half a dozen times from poor first touch or over hitting simple passes. He also passed the buck a couple of times when he could have shot or cross himself.

He improved after the break and helped assist the 2nd goal but wasted a lot of good positions first half.

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Tanner is frustrating but he didn’t look fully fit yesterday. He’ll be great in this league.

Ashford worries me, he’s not a winger and I’d prefer Willock to him, and I don’t rate Willock at all.

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Originally Posted by Coyote

Kpakio was my MOTM. Very good battle against Peterborough's nippy Number 10, scored the wonder goal in the second, and was a constant presence and thorn in most Boro attacks.

Wintle played very well too, as did Rubin and I was very impressed by Turner in goal too.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

R Cowlill by a country mile. Scored a superb free kick and laid on several other chances for his team mates. Looked like a big boy playing against younger kids when he got on the ball.

Kpakio and Wintle the best of the rest.

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I'd go the same, and the keeper had a great start.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the man of the match thread descends into a let’s knock the 18 year old match winner one. I thought Kpakio got caught out the once near the end and his poor throw in got Lawlor booked, but, apart from that, I thought he was very good and, on a day when we gave the ball away carelessly quite a lot, he was one who I felt confident about when he was in possession.

Think Rubin Colwill deserved the man of the match, Tanner and Kpakio were candidates, as was Wintle and Joel Colwill had a good second half.

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Spot on Bob. The moaning Minnies will always focus on the negatives. The usual suspects will find it hard to compliment Rubin. And when they do, it will be accompanied with "he's found his level". Many strong candidates for MOM yesterday. Wintle, Kpakio, and Joel Colwill could all make cases. I was also very impressed by Tanner who grew stronger and more influential as the game went on. But my MOM was Rubin. Of course, he scored possibly the best free kick we've seen since the mighty Whitts but he also performed really well in the areas which even his supporters would have said are not his strengths. His energy was impressive, his press was very effective, he showed strength and I can't remember any occasion when he ended up on his arse. Damn, he was even effective in the air.