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    Re: George Floyd Good Read

    You don't hear much about him anymore.

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    Re: George Floyd Good Read

    The article says he was a violent criminal, but then says police arrested 9 times for drugs and theft. So not violence then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    The article says he was a violent criminal, but then says police arrested 9 times for drugs and theft. So not violence then.
    There's also a pic listing his sentences -

    including 10 months in 1998 for armed robbery, and
    5 years in 2007 for 'armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her home'


    I'd class armed robbery as a violent crime.

    But his past record is largely irrelevant in the case of the cops choking him .


    *edit*

    Reading on, the sentences listed in the pic are dubious, to say the least.

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    I think most people know George Floyd wasn't a saint, but even the woman in the link who found the way people were trying to turn him into one "despicable" admits that "No one thinks that he should have died in his arrest" and that has to be the overriding consideration surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I think most people know George Floyd wasn't a saint, but even the woman in the link who found the way people were trying to turn him into one "despicable" admits that "No one thinks that he should have died in his arrest" and that has to be the overriding consideration surely?
    I don't understand the purpose of the article. Irrespective of whether Floyd was a violent criminal or Mother Theresa, he died as a result of police brutality. And given the video evidence, its incontrovertible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    That information makes it understandable and alright then that he was choked to death by a policeman’s knee in public.

    Thinking on this, more of these quick judicial processes should be adopted in the UK? We could do with a clear out which wouldn’t cost the country billions in keeping the no good ****ers behind the doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    There's also a pic listing his sentences -

    including 10 months in 1998 for armed robbery, and
    5 years in 2007 for 'armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her home'


    I'd class armed robbery as a violent crime.

    But his past record is largely irrelevant in the case of the cops choking him .


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    Reading on, the sentences listed in the pic are dubious, to say the least.
    Yes it was irrelevant to the case, but the media were making him out to be some kind of saint. Would you put a bloke on a pedestal who had 9 drink driving offences, and consider him to be a lovable rougue? The law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules, plus the article was written by the perception changing Snopes website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    The article says he was a violent criminal, but then says police arrested 9 times for drugs and theft. So not violence then.
    Your attention to detail is shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Your attention to detail is shocking.
    Care to tell us why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Care to tell us why?
    Failure to read simple sentences 3 times in 2 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't hear much about him anymore.
    That's because hes dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    That's because hes dead
    The protests ain't, and he's the figurehead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Failure to read simple sentences 3 times in 2 days.
    Please elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Please elaborate.
    Don't want to derail proceedings, but there is one example in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes it was irrelevant to the case, but the media were making him out to be some kind of saint. Would you put a bloke on a pedestal who had 9 drink driving offences, and consider him to be a lovable rougue? The law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules, plus the article was written by the perception changing Snopes website.
    does this application of law apply to the police? If so, you'll agree they just can't go round killing people, or treating those who they are charged with custody of with such utter contempt as displayed to Floyd.

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    Re: George Floyd Good Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Don't want to derail proceedings, but there is one example in this thread.
    so no examples then. fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Don't want to derail proceedings, but there is one example in this thread.
    So what your'e saying is that you want it both ways then - you're happy to make an irrelevant point which suits your agenda, but not to go into details about it. I think I'll leave things there because there are no end of threads already on here that have gone the way this one, almost certainly, will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The protests ain't, and he's the figurehead.
    Yes , but hes dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes it was irrelevant to the case, but the media were making him out to be some kind of saint. Would you put a bloke on a pedestal who had 9 drink driving offences, and consider him to be a lovable rougue? The law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules, plus the article was written by the perception changing Snopes website.
    Are the police above the law ?

    It appears that after some pressure , the officer who suffocated george floyd who we agree was a convicted criminal , is being charged with murder

    So either the law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules , or it isnt ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Are the police above the law ?

    It appears that after some pressure , the officer who suffocated george floyd who we agree was a convicted criminal , is being charged with murder

    So either the law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules , or it isnt ?
    It's probably not a good thing for the officers charge to be upgraded as it means he's a lot less likely to get convicted on it. The burden of proof is a lot higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Are the police above the law ?

    It appears that after some pressure , the officer who suffocated george floyd who we agree was a convicted criminal , is being charged with murder

    So either the law is the law and we all have to abide by the rules , or it isnt ?
    They are two separate things. Not one person has condoned the actions of Derek Chauvin, but Floyd is viewed in two different lights, as being either a saint or a sinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They are two separate things. Not one person has condoned the actions of Derek Chauvin, but Floyd is viewed in two different lights, as being either a saint or a sinner.
    Well I think most people accept that george floyd was a person with criminal convictions who was suffocated to death by a police officer

    Loads of people have condoned the actions of that police officer on internet sites all over the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So what your'e saying is that you want it both ways then - you're happy to make an irrelevant point which suits your agenda, but not to go into details about it. I think I'll leave things there because there are no end of threads already on here that have gone the way this one, almost certainly, will.
    It's an interesting article to be fair, well balanced with some interesting points to make.

    Very long though, maybe the reason Wales-Bales is a bit vague about it is that he only gave himself three minutes to read the whole thing (the attachment on Chauvin is equally as long as the main article) before replying. Life on Mars must've been tired because he didn't reply to Wales-Bales (it was quarter to one in the morning to be fair. Come to think about it, it was an amazing coincidence that both of them were on here at that time) and now seems to have forgotten he even started the thread because he hasn't come back to pass comment on it. Maybe he's got to the end of the article now and doesn't think it was such a good read after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They are two separate things. Not one person has condoned the actions of Derek Chauvin, but Floyd is viewed in two different lights, as being either a saint or a sinner.
    it would seem only by you. none of us really care about his past, only how he was treated whilst in police custody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    It's an interesting article to be fair, well balanced with some interesting points to make.

    Very long though, maybe the reason Wales-Bales is a bit vague about it is that he only gave himself three minutes to read the whole thing (the attachment on Chauvin is equally as long as the main article) before replying. Life on Mars must've been tired because he didn't reply to Wales-Bales (it was quarter to one in the morning to be fair. Come to think about it, it was an amazing coincidence that both of them were on here at that time) and now seems to have forgotten he even started the thread because he hasn't come back to pass comment on it. Maybe he's got to the end of the article now and doesn't think it was such a good read after all.
    What are you rambling on about? My comment about Floyd had nothing to do with the article. I actually did read it this morning, and I've already done a deep dive on Floyd & Chauvin a few weeks ago that goes way beyond what the Snopes perception influencers want you to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What are you rambling on about? My comment about Floyd had nothing to do with the article. I actually did read it this morning, and I've already done a deep dive on Floyd & Chauvin a few weeks ago that goes way beyond what the Snopes perception influencers want you to know.
    We are blessed to have you on here to cut through all the noise for us.

    Why dont you summarise for us, and put us in the picture about what's really going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    We are blessed to have you on here to cut through all the noise for us.

    Why dont you summarise for us, and put us in the picture about what's really going on.
    Likely to get some gibberish about doing your own research but now is really not a good time. His hero's Supreme Court picks have cleared a path for Trump's tax and financial returns to be released to New York prosecutors and Donny is in the middle of a twitter hissy fit. It may be some time before he comes up from the deep dive on this. But rest assured when he does it will go way beyond whatever those Supreme Court perception influencers want you to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Likely to get some gibberish about doing your own research but now is really not a good time. His hero's Supreme Court picks have cleared a path for Trump's tax and financial returns to be released to New York prosecutors and Donny is in the middle of a twitter hissy fit. It may be some time before he comes up from the deep dive on this. But rest assured when he does it will go way beyond whatever those Supreme Court perception influencers want you to know!
    What makes you think I am interested in that? There is a once in a generation opportunity to clean up the corrupt Washington institutions, and you are busy creaming yourself over a here today, gone tomorow president. It's no wonder you totally fecked up the Russia collusion hoax cos you can't see the wood for the trees. You are the most obsessive and irrational person I have ever come across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Likely to get some gibberish about doing your own research but now is really not a good time. His hero's Supreme Court picks have cleared a path for Trump's tax and financial returns to be released to New York prosecutors and Donny is in the middle of a twitter hissy fit. It may be some time before he comes up from the deep dive on this. But rest assured when he does it will go way beyond whatever those Supreme Court perception influencers want you to know!
    I'm always amazed at how WB has the ability to think and analyse in a way that nobody on here is able to do, then reach conclusions most of us are incapable of reaching. Also a top sportsman and highly educated. I feel a sense of inadequacy and shame.

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