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They keep saying we are 5/6 weeks behind Spain, I see that cases are now going down there after peaking and deaths didn’t go up? They didn’t lock down did they?
Where have you seen that?
All news sources say that cases and deaths are still rising in Spain and Madrid is going into lockdown.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54211361
https://www.euronews.com/2020/09/19/...ease-by-14-000
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html
The graph on this one that says we are 6 weeks behind spain......
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...d-science.html
Don’t take anything I read anywhere as gospel but apparently it’s written by oxford scientists so no reason not to believe them....
Here's a link which shows that, although I would have thought scientists might well say they needed more evidence before declaring Spain was over the worst of this late summer/autumn outbreak, the number of daily new cases has dropped markedly in the last week to ten days.
It also shows that while new cases did climb dramatically for a while, they did not do so to anywhere near the extent talked about at the briefing yesterday - they plateaued at around 10,000 for three weeks before the dip started. As for deaths, they rose well above what had been the norm for a few months, but they.ve not reached anything like spring levels yet.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/spain/
These local lockdown of areas/counties will never work lets be honest. It just makes people think if they live outside the lockdown restricted area they are ok and can continue as normal. Plus its impossible to stop people travelling outside a particular county when most people don't even no where one county starts or ends, and some streets are divided by counties..........complete madness, everyone must all live with the same rules and restrictions otherwise it is a complete waste of time.
What I’m hearing is that there’s not going to be a vaccine anytime soon, but they now have the medication to ease the death rate.
The govt. panicked, along with the rest. Don't go to work - we'll pay you instead, I mean , when you think of that it's totally and utterly crazy, the sort of thing a tinpot Central American state would do, not the 6th largest economy in the world.
We all remember seeing little Spanish children going into their local park to play after leaving their houses/flats for the 1st time in 4 months - think late July/early August. Spain enforced a prison-like lockdown, yet it didn't do much good - look at them now.
I'm approaching my 68th yr. I don't confess to any serious medical qualifications, but I've done business with - and met - hundreds and hundreds of people from all walks of life, and I can tell when people are 'winging it'. And believe me, these scientist are definitely winging it - they haven't go a clue..
I remember you taking a shot at Pearcey on reliance on scientific opinion
What happened to change your mind?There's as much space as you need below to list your qualifications and expertise in these matters, and then give us your detailed explanation why you disagree with the most qualified people in this Country.
Then again you could just f*ck off and let the grown ups get on with it..
Funny how the commentators in the media who are holding up Sweden a bastion of freedom were calling it a muslim infested shithole a year ago.
While continuous lockdowns are not the way to go imo, using Sweden as evidence while cherry picking data is as disingenuous as it comes.
By the same metric we could be saying New Zealand has been using harsh lockdowns and are virtully covid free so why don't we do that?
Where's Total_ITK? I'm pretty sure he was posting about how he was witnessing Swedes not socially distancing during our lockdown. All we are getting in the UK is the media's spin on what's happening there (from both sides of the argument)- at least get an opinion from the horses mouth on this.
I understand that and I'm not saying that they've done well at all. I was pointing out that a couple of posters have said that Swedes were socially distancing better than us despite Total_ITK posting about how gobsmacked he was when he was witnessing barely any social distancing being implemented in whichever town/city he lives in.
The posts about Sweden being a larger country with a smaller population are factual, but the other stuff seems to be conjecture.
The figures don't lie, but we can't fully appreciate what the social protocols in Sweden are like unless we witness them. It's like someone constantly saying that the pubs are safe because they saw people socially distancing in them on TV, yet when you're in one, you can tell that it's a bit of a free-for-all.
Putting aside everything that the Government should be doing.
Every individual, irrespective of age, demographic and ethnicity needs to treat this more seriously and accept that they carry a responsibility to fight it.
Nobody is immune, everybody could be a spreader.
With the right attitude wearing a mask, maintaining a distance are not difficult to do. Observing and implementing rules on gatherings, travel may be upsetting for some but not as much as burying somebody.
I’m not advocating a total lockdown, but individual responsibility and therein lies the problem. There are just too many people who do not think it applies to them or feel that they can interpret it differently.
It’s not just the “young” who can be and have acted irresponsibly.
We all want to get back to attending City matches. It’s not going to happen soon nor should it or any other crowd event. It’s time to stop bleating about loss of privilege and to work to rebuild it. “We are in this together”
Data in Sweden is really worth watching. pic.twitter.com/guob7cZ5k8
— Latika M Bourke (@latikambourke) September 22, 2020
Here's more data from Sweden that's worth looking at.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-the-nordics/
Can't have that many Covid-19 cases if you don't test for it...