Italy coping relatively well so far this late summer/autumn;-
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/
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Italy coping relatively well so far this late summer/autumn;-
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/
Seems to have levelled out on cases and deaths after the upturn a few weeks back, no reason it shouldn’t do the same here hopefully if we adhere to SD.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Given what Jon says, that last bit may be a problem - speaking for myself, with almost half of the Welsh new cases yesterday being in RCT, I'm almost back into spring lockdown mode now.
All the students have just arrived in Treforest too, if most weren't already here by now
They're now on about not allowing students to leave universities over Christmas. There's of course a myriad of problems within that, but it does beg the question, why have them go back in the first place?
Something has to change?
How about the UK government?
The gaggle of bungling, lying shysters.
The government is damned if they do and damned if they don't. People say we went into lockdown too late but now are saying the new rules are too tight suggesting we should let things get worse before taking precautionary action. People say the government's rules are too complicated but others say they are not clear enough by addressing every situation which would arguably add to the confusion. The government was criticised for allowing passengers from abroad to enter the country but when the quarantine arrangements were introduced that was wrong adding to the destruction of the tourist and hospitality industries. Now the government is accused of ruining the economy which has come about significantly through the cost of the furlough arrangements but others are saying the arrangements should be extended beyond the end of October when current arrangements end.
On the downside, as we are an island, the virus should have been easier to control with the death and infection rates lower and most are agreed the test and trace arrangements are a shambles. The covid test and trace ap is released today 4 months late.
What seems clear to me is that things will not return to normal any time soon; the virus is so infectious and not everyone is obeying the rules meaning things are unlikely to get better in the foreseeable future with infection rates rising especially as Universities resume. If infection rates reduce to below current levels things will be eased and the cycle of infection is likely to occur again. The government seem to think the current restrictions will last for 6 months. How do they know? Is this another example of kicking the can down the road? Until there is a vaccination things can't get better.
Think they are just saying 6 months as that’s winter over at least, even though the last lockdown started at the end of last winter.....
Maybe there will be a vaccine? Didn’t Vallance say the other day there was a small chance it could be ready for those who need it most by Christmas? Now, that would be the sort of news that if true most people would just toe the line up until then, knowing things will be normal again post Christmas. I’d be happy to sit in for 3 months if it was nailed on this would end once and for all.
The arrival of the vaccine will be the beginning of the end, but it will still take a painfully long time before we can say it's ended once and for all.
Why is the arrival of a vaccine the beginning of the end Lardy?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning". Winston Churchill 1942.
15 epidemiologists next door told me.
The arrival of a vaccine won't be click your fingers and we're back to normal, as much as we all want it to be. It's still going to take time.
These people are not “Thick”. They are Ignorant, greedy and thoughtless. A big difference.
And whats worse is they're the UK government!
They could havearmed patrols with machine gun nests on all the roads leading out of towns with University accommodation.
Then they could stop the cars, drag the students out and lock them up, and if the driving mother argues they can use the machine guns.
I think I need to start taking this thread more seriously.
You're right! Didn't Johnson talk about using the services of the Army the other day?
he did. he said in the nicest possible away, as Boris does that he may call in the army to back up the police if they are overstretched. I took that as a shot across the bow. Basically we start playing ball or the gov are going to declare martial law!!
(to be honest it wouldn't hurt to do that in some places!!)
We could do with some civil unrest I reckon, shake things up a bithe did. he said in the nicest possible away, as Boris does that he may call in the army to back up the police if they are overstretched. I took that as a shot across the bow. Basically we start playing ball or the gov are going to declare martial law!!
(to be honest it wouldn't hurt to do that in some places!!)
When was the last good riot here? Poll tax? Don’t know if we still have the youth for it, we not French are we.....
2011 in London wasn't badWe could do with some civil unrest I reckon, shake things up a bit
When was the last good riot here? Poll tax? Don’t know if we still have the youth for it, we not French are we.....
There was some fighting in London over the summer with the statue shaggers
Fair point. It might have prevented trips to Doncaster races with gun toting squaddies stationed outside clubs. I wonder if it would have curtailed little jaunts to Durham though?he did. he said in the nicest possible away, as Boris does that he may call in the army to back up the police if they are overstretched. I took that as a shot across the bow. Basically we start playing ball or the gov are going to declare martial law!!
(to be honest it wouldn't hurt to do that in some places!!)
Some big job losses coming. A good few people who voted for a party that have just paid lip service, to the idea of a social security safety net, will now be relying on it. Oh dear.
This could be the catalyst for the social unrest goats wants
Do I need to buy a stone island white jacket first or am I good to go in my vans and cargo shorts? I wouldn’t say I’m 100% behind the idea but I’m also not part of the bendover and take it allday long from boris and chums
you a vans and cargo shorts guy aswelli like your style
Only about 10 months of the year.....I’ve got some of those long jeans things somewhere in my house, I’ll have to start the search now so I’ve got them by Novemberyou a vans and cargo shorts guy aswell
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