Brentford to stop taking a knee

[Heisenberg]

There's treatment out there fella .

Judging from your "young girls were asking for it" comments, I would suggest the treatment be chemical castration.

[Heisenberg]

There you go. A spot the difference competition on views about the manipulation and abuse of young girls. Clue. They were written by different people is not a correct answer.

He's happy with his views and it's my morals that are lacking though.

It's a tough one.

[BLUETIT]

Me thinks this thread should be locked, as this is all about opinions.

There is no right or wrong in either to take or not to take the knee, so there will never be an end result. So technically, this thread could overtake the crisp thread.

Myself, I think it's past it's sell by date.

[jon1959]

Me thinks this thread should be locked, as this is all about opinions.

There is no right or wrong in either to take or not to take the knee, so there will never be an end result. So technically, this thread could overtake the crisp thread.

Myself, I think it's past it's sell by date.

If threads are going to be locked because they're about opinions - they will all be locked!

Myself - I think taking the knee should carry on until the end of the season, and then have a proper debate between players, fans, clubs and authorities about how to embed anti-racism in football. It cannot just fade away like all previous anti racism campaigns and initiatives.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Me thinks this thread should be locked, as this is all about opinions.

There is no right or wrong in either to take or not to take the knee, so there will never be an end result. So technically, this thread could overtake the crisp thread.

Myself, I think it's past it's sell by date.

You think threads based solely on opinions should be locked?

[BLUETIT]

You think threads based solely on opinions should be locked?

This one yes, as it's getting repeatedly boring and taking up football chat on a matchday.

[cyril evans awaydays]

This one yes, as it's getting repeatedly boring and taking up football chat on a matchday.

Crikey, You'll be saying that once you've aired your opinion on the competence of Mark Drakeford or Cardiff City Council's traffic management plans you should let it rest next!

[Croesy Blue]

You have no morality , and the use of language behind a keyboard is a weakness .

I'm okay with my behaviour, sorry you don't agree with my views 😉

Let’s be honest anyone who has ever read your posts knows how much of a bigot you are.

[Croesy Blue]

This one yes, as it's getting repeatedly boring and taking up football chat on a matchday.

Why not just not open the thread?

Taking up football chat? It isn’t a finite resource

[BLUETIT]

Why not just not open the thread?

Taking up football chat? It isn’t a finite resource

At least I got someone laughing

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Why not just not open the thread?

Taking up football chat? It isn’t a finite resource

I'm with Bluetit: we don't want to get to the end of the internet before kick-off.

[AfricanBluebird]

I got into a debate about it on the other board.

Some interesting debates. And some rancid views.

One thing I find absolutely laughable is that
people are claiming that the players are now supporting and implementing a socialist agenda...(oh that it were true!)

Footballers.. socialists... Lol.

Football has become the epitome of capitalism and players probably don't even know what socialism is.

Imagine being allowed to watch live football for the first time in over 18 months and the first thing you do is boo your own players for a gesture which is attempting to unite against racism.. before they have even kicked a ball. what an abysmal thing to do.

Talk about snowflakes..

So what if the players take the knee. Even if fans think it's little more than tokenism, it's the players choice.

If it's more offensive to someone when players take the knee than it is when players receive ongoing aggressive racist abuse and threats, it shows how stupid people are.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I got into a debate about it on the other board.

Some interesting debates. And some rancid views.

One thing I find absolutely laughable is that
people are claiming that the players are now supporting and implementing a socialist agenda...(oh that it were true!)

Footballers.. socialists... Lol.

Football has become the epitome of capitalism and players probably don't even know what socialism is.

Imagine being allowed to watch live football for the first time in over 18 months and the first thing you do is boo your own players for a gesture which is attempting to unite against racism.. before they have even kicked a ball. what an abysmal thing to do.

Talk about snowflakes..

So what if the players take the knee. Even if fans think it's little more than tokenism, it's the players choice.

If it's more offensive to someone when players take the knee than it is when players receive ongoing aggressive racist abuse and threats, it shows how stupid people are.

I've nothing against players 'taking the knee'. They have a lot of spare time on their hands which is normally taken up playing video games in their 'games rooms'. So I suggest they do it in parks, go on marches, anywhere else other than in front of football supporters who, in the main, don't want to see it. Not because what it does or doesn't represent, but they don't cough up all that dosh to be preached to by dimwit footballers..

[lardy]

I've nothing against players 'taking the knee'. They have a lot of spare time on their hands which is normally taken up playing video games in their 'games rooms'. So I suggest they do it in parks, go on marches, anywhere else other than in front of football supporters who, in the main, don't want to see it. Not because what it does or doesn't represent, but they don't cough up all that dosh to be preached to by dimwit footballers..

It does seem to touch a nerve with the daily mail readers.

[jon1959]

I've nothing against players 'taking the knee'. They have a lot of spare time on their hands which is normally taken up playing video games in their 'games rooms'. So I suggest they do it in parks, go on marches, anywhere else other than in front of football supporters who, in the main, don't want to see it. Not because what it does or doesn't represent, but they don't cough up all that dosh to be preached to by dimwit footballers..

Wrong.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...hey-support-it

More football fans in Europe - including in England, Scotland and Wales - are supportive of players taking a knee than against it, but they are split over the gesture's importance in tackling racism, according to a major survey.

[az city]

I got into a debate about it on the other board.

Some interesting debates. And some rancid views.

One thing I find absolutely laughable is that
people are claiming that the players are now supporting and implementing a socialist agenda...(oh that it were true!)

Footballers.. socialists... Lol.

Football has become the epitome of capitalism and players probably don't even know what socialism is.

Imagine being allowed to watch live football for the first time in over 18 months and the first thing you do is boo your own players for a gesture which is attempting to unite against racism.. before they have even kicked a ball. what an abysmal thing to do.

Talk about snowflakes..

So what if the players take the knee. Even if fans think it's little more than tokenism, it's the players choice.

If it's more offensive to someone when players take the knee than it is when players receive ongoing aggressive racist abuse and threats, it shows how stupid people are.

I read the other board but never post on there. I am pretty certain I'd be banned within hours for what they would consider my "Marxist" views.

[AfricanBluebird]

I read the other board but never post on there. I am pretty certain I'd be banned within hours for what they would consider my "Marxist" views.

Aye, I know what you're saying

Some posters with differing views make some good points, which I may disagree with, but at least are respectful. Others are just bonkers.

I'm surprised I lasted at long as I did.

[Croesy Blue]

I don't give a sh*t what footballers think - it's a free world [?], but I go to a game to watch football not have political lessons from 22 dimwits before every game. I doubt 'taking the knee' has moved people in any direction on the subject, though perhaps a few stone statues did actually move. I seriously doubt it would have lasted more than a couple of games with crowds in attendance. They look like a load of daft twats when the do it and I reckon would be told so pretty quickly..

I always find people who “don’t want politics” in sport are the ones who’s “politics” are being called into question.

I think taking a knee has raised awareness of the situation quite well. The fact it’s still being discussed shows it’s doing it’s job. It might be time to end it sooner or later but it’s still working now.

Also after your ongoing posts in the coronavirus thread I don’t know how you can call anyone a dimwit.

[Croesy Blue]

And since when did not being racist become a political topic?

There seems to be a disingenuous attempt by some to link the political group Black Lives Matter with the tacking a knee.

Plus there seems to be an attempt by some to misinterpret the “defund the police” statement to be something it isn’t either due to ignorance or to want to undermine any anti racist message.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56117084

Wilfred Zaha sharing his personal perspective. I thought it was powerful

[az city]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56117084

Wilfred Zaha sharing his personal perspective. I thought it was powerful

I don't agree with Zaha and don't think what he says is powerful at all. "Taking the knee" I think began with Colin Kapernick who did it while the US national anthem played. The point being you're supposed to stand reverentially. Not doing so was very, very powerful. Kapernick (partially at least) lost his career for his actions. He is to be lauded for his bravery. Zaha is of course completely entitled to do as he likes. I always feel a sense of optimism when sports people protest racism (in whatever form) and extreme pessimism when people boo.

[life on mars]

Rumours Brentford will not be taking the knee in the Premiership.

Croatia are saying the same for the Euro's , both refer to the alleged no politics rules in football , and its long-term ineffectiveness , as per Zaha point and decision ?

[splott parker]

Rumours Brentford will not be taking the knee in the Premiership.

Croatia are saying the same for the Euro's , both refer to the alleged no politics rules in football , and its long-term ineffectiveness , as per Zaha point and decision ?

Football and politics will always be intertwined, no getting away from the fact. Cheap get out line for them, the far right, who, let’s not kid ourselves are the shit stirrers in this situation, have attempted to peddle their political filth to football fans for years. They’ve been rightly silenced in more recent years, their odious songs, monkey noises and ignorant behaviour being eradicated with the threat of stadium bans, prosecution etc. This booing is in their eyes a legitimate way of showing their true colours, us proper fans, when back in the grounds, should make our feelings known to them if they start their shite. Leopards don’t change their spots, their racism is still bubbling below the surface, we should be on our guard, we can’t go back to the bad old days.

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...acism-football

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Football and politics will always be intertwined, no getting away from the fact. Cheap get out line for them, the far right, who, let’s not kid ourselves are the shit stirrers in this situation, have attempted to peddle their political filth to football fans for years. They’ve been rightly silenced in more recent years, their odious songs, monkey noises and ignorant behaviour being eradicated with the threat of stadium bans, prosecution etc. This booing is in their eyes a legitimate way of showing their true colours, us proper fans, when back in the grounds, should make our feelings known to them if they start their shite. Leopards don’t change their spots, their racism is still bubbling below the surface, we should be on our guard, we can’t go back to the bad old days.

Ain't that the truth

All lives matter ! ........shut up you daft racist