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Me thinks this thread should be locked, as this is all about opinions.
There is no right or wrong in either to take or not to take the knee, so there will never be an end result. So technically, this thread could overtake the crisp thread.
Myself, I think it's past it's sell by date.
If threads are going to be locked because they're about opinions - they will all be locked!
Myself - I think taking the knee should carry on until the end of the season, and then have a proper debate between players, fans, clubs and authorities about how to embed anti-racism in football. It cannot just fade away like all previous anti racism campaigns and initiatives.
I got into a debate about it on the other board.
Some interesting debates. And some rancid views.
One thing I find absolutely laughable is that
people are claiming that the players are now supporting and implementing a socialist agenda...(oh that it were true!)
Footballers.. socialists... Lol.
Football has become the epitome of capitalism and players probably don't even know what socialism is.
Imagine being allowed to watch live football for the first time in over 18 months and the first thing you do is boo your own players for a gesture which is attempting to unite against racism.. before they have even kicked a ball. what an abysmal thing to do.
Talk about snowflakes..
So what if the players take the knee. Even if fans think it's little more than tokenism, it's the players choice.
If it's more offensive to someone when players take the knee than it is when players receive ongoing aggressive racist abuse and threats, it shows how stupid people are.
I've nothing against players 'taking the knee'. They have a lot of spare time on their hands which is normally taken up playing video games in their 'games rooms'. So I suggest they do it in parks, go on marches, anywhere else other than in front of football supporters who, in the main, don't want to see it. Not because what it does or doesn't represent, but they don't cough up all that dosh to be preached to by dimwit footballers..
Wrong.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...hey-support-it
More football fans in Europe - including in England, Scotland and Wales - are supportive of players taking a knee than against it, but they are split over the gesture's importance in tackling racism, according to a major survey.
I always find people who “don’t want politics” in sport are the ones who’s “politics” are being called into question.
I think taking a knee has raised awareness of the situation quite well. The fact it’s still being discussed shows it’s doing it’s job. It might be time to end it sooner or later but it’s still working now.
Also after your ongoing posts in the coronavirus thread I don’t know how you can call anyone a dimwit.
And since when did not being racist become a political topic?
There seems to be a disingenuous attempt by some to link the political group Black Lives Matter with the tacking a knee.
Plus there seems to be an attempt by some to misinterpret the “defund the police” statement to be something it isn’t either due to ignorance or to want to undermine any anti racist message.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56117084
Wilfred Zaha sharing his personal perspective. I thought it was powerful
I don't agree with Zaha and don't think what he says is powerful at all. "Taking the knee" I think began with Colin Kapernick who did it while the US national anthem played. The point being you're supposed to stand reverentially. Not doing so was very, very powerful. Kapernick (partially at least) lost his career for his actions. He is to be lauded for his bravery. Zaha is of course completely entitled to do as he likes. I always feel a sense of optimism when sports people protest racism (in whatever form) and extreme pessimism when people boo.
Rumours Brentford will not be taking the knee in the Premiership.
Croatia are saying the same for the Euro's , both refer to the alleged no politics rules in football , and its long-term ineffectiveness , as per Zaha point and decision ?
Football and politics will always be intertwined, no getting away from the fact. Cheap get out line for them, the far right, who, let’s not kid ourselves are the shit stirrers in this situation, have attempted to peddle their political filth to football fans for years. They’ve been rightly silenced in more recent years, their odious songs, monkey noises and ignorant behaviour being eradicated with the threat of stadium bans, prosecution etc. This booing is in their eyes a legitimate way of showing their true colours, us proper fans, when back in the grounds, should make our feelings known to them if they start their shite. Leopards don’t change their spots, their racism is still bubbling below the surface, we should be on our guard, we can’t go back to the bad old days.