Possible racist gesture from Cardiff fan

[dembethewarrior]

I laugh at you a fair bit.

Thank you, no offence taken.

So you don't like fat jokes, what else do you laugh at that someone in some far corner of the world may be offended by? Or don't you laugh at anything offensive? Squeaky clean.

[life on mars]

The purity of football and its fan is fascinating .

[splott parker]

The guy in question is also undeniably tittist though

Tony Jefferies seeking legal advice as we speak!!

[Rjk]

I agree with this. Although I think it is nothing like 90%. I'd say the vast majority of examples (especially on the utterly vile platform that is twitter) is nothing of the sort, just the most powerful way to smear someone at the moment. It makes spotting and addressing genuine racism so much more difficult and people become scared to talk about the topic

I think the vast majority of things on social media that appear to be racism are indeed racism.

[Feedback]

That's the problem, I assumed he wasn't racist because the goalscorer was white so it didn't make sense - but didn't feel comfortable speaking up incase I looked like I endorsed it.

No doubt 90% of all 'possible racism' is racism and we do need to stamp it out where we see it but we're breeding a culture where if you're not showing to be fully anti-racist at all times you may seem racist, as per this example.

Saying that, i've seen some of the facebook comments following that tragedy of the boat sinking and there really are some horrible racist ****s out there.

that's something that happens a lot on here.

[Do me a Faerber]

Thank you, no offence taken.

So you don't like fat jokes, what else do you laugh at that someone in some far corner of the world may be offended by? Or don't you laugh at anything offensive? Squeaky clean.

Tell me a joke, and I'll tell you if I think it is funny.

[dembethewarrior]

Tell me a joke, and I'll tell you if I think it is funny.

Man offended at nothing in a football thread.

[Rjk]

that's something that happens a lot on here.

surely not wanting to appear racist is a good thing? I'm glad these days most people are aware they need to choose their words carefully when talking about sensitive subjects.

[Do me a Faerber]

Man offended at nothing in a football thread.

Not funny.

[dembethewarrior]

Not funny.

We weren't going for funny or no funny originally, we were looking for what other than fat jokes offend you. You don't seem capable of answering.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

We weren't going for funny or no funny originally, we were looking for what other than fat jokes offend you. You don't seem capable of answering.

Irony alert.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Well Well

You cannot blame people for seeing that gesture and thinking Jesus christ you racist bell end

I don't believe anyone who saw that coming back and saying well I didn't want to say anything but it looked like he was doing a you got fat tits gesture 🤔

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Well Well

You cannot blame people for seeing that gesture and thinking Jesus christ you racist bell end

I don't believe anyone who saw that coming back and saying well I didn't want to say anything but it looked like he was doing a you got fat tits gesture ��

Sludge, I honestly thought that there was insifficient evidence to declare the guy guilty, the reason being that his hands cupped his chest whereas most people would move their hands under their armpits regarding primate-related gestures.

[Do me a Faerber]

We weren't going for funny or no funny originally, we were looking for what other than fat jokes offend you. You don't seem capable of answering.

It's not a question that is answerable really. It could be an extensive list that, on missing one item out, will see me tagged as some sort of *ist.

Let's put it another way. There was an outcry this morning that someone was perceived to have been doing a racist gesture. Generally, the people who took offence were white football fans jumping to conclusions, and engaging the keyboard to prove they, themselves, are not racist. They were angry that this one man was making this one gesture that was offensive to a large group of people.

Then, it turns out the gesture WASN'T offensive towards that large group of people at all. However, the gesture could still be construed to be offensive to a different large group of people, some of who may actually have fallen in the original group of people. The response to the gesture offending a different group of people was "Well, that's alright then, as long as it's not the wrong type of offensive gesture".

I don't, particularly, take offence at fat jokes. If I am sat with my chubby girlfriend (her words) and a comedian makes some fat jokes, she is likely to get upset. Unless that comedian is fat, then she laughs. Strange how it works isn't it? None of it is exactly black and white. It is strange too how a gesture towards one group of people is passed off as "Well, that's alright then" by the same group of people who saw the same gesture, wrongly assumed it was towards a different group of people and were "find him, ban him, name him, shame him".

By the way, I found the gesture immature and not funny the first time I saw it. I didn't jump to the conclusions that others have because, well, there was always the possibility it wasn't what it looked like. Now that I know the gesture's intentions, I still think it is immature and not funny.

[The Lone Gunman]

You are as guilty as Sludge, TLG, and a few others here of jumping to conclusions.

You’re correct. Based on the evidence of the first video, I concluded that the guy is a racist twat. However, it turns out he’s just a twat.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Sludge, I honestly thought that there was insifficient evidence to declare the guy guilty, the reason being that his hands cupped his chest whereas most people would move their hands under their armpits regarding primate-related gestures.

insufficient, that is

[Canton Kev]

It's not a question that is answerable really. It could be an extensive list that, on missing one item out, will see me tagged as some sort of *ist.

Let's put it another way. There was an outcry this morning that someone was perceived to have been doing a racist gesture. Generally, the people who took offence were white football fans jumping to conclusions, and engaging the keyboard to prove they, themselves, are not racist. They were angry that this one man was making this one gesture that was offensive to a large group of people.

Then, it turns out the gesture WASN'T offensive towards that large group of people at all. However, the gesture could still be construed to be offensive to a different large group of people, some of who may actually have fallen in the original group of people. The response to the gesture offending a different group of people was "Well, that's alright then, as long as it's not the wrong type of offensive gesture".

I don't, particularly, take offence at fat jokes. If I am sat with my chubby girlfriend (her words) and a comedian makes some fat jokes, she is likely to get upset. Unless that comedian is fat, then she laughs. Strange how it works isn't it? None of it is exactly black and white. It is strange too how a gesture towards one group of people is passed off as "Well, that's alright then" by the same group of people who saw the same gesture, wrongly assumed it was towards a different group of people and were "find him, ban him, name him, shame him".

By the way, I found the gesture immature and not funny the first time I saw it. I didn't jump to the conclusions that others have because, well, there was always the possibility it wasn't what it looked like. Now that I know the gesture's intentions, I still think it is immature and not funny.

Do you not see the difference between someone making racist monkey gestures towards a black person and someone making a “you're fat” gesture towards a professional athlete who is in the top 0.1% of the healthiest and fittest people in the country?

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Do you not see the difference between someone making racist monkey gestures towards a black person and someone making a “you're fat” gesture towards a professional athlete who is in the top 0.1% of the healthiest and fittest people in the country?

it is a very weird hill to die on

[Croesy Blue]

Fat Tits Matter

[Citizen's Nephew]

Fat Tits Matter