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    HS2

    Iíve just priced up Cardiff to Edinburgh on the train for the next half term. Train return was £434. Flying was just over £60

    Now every time I watch question time and scrapping HS2 is mentioned it gets a big round of applause. I donít get it. So much hostility to new infrastructure in the UK.

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    Why would HS2 make it cheaper?

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    Re: HS2

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Why would HS2 make it cheaper?
    Stop being sensible!!

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    the trains are ridiculously priced in this country. for intercity travel it should be a no brainer, yet it is frequently quicker and cheaper to drive. how I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Why would HS2 make it cheaper?
    It allows for more capacity on the lines

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    Why are we in Wales laying for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
    Why are we in Wales laying for it?
    Because we’re very, very tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Because we’re very, very tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    It allows for more capacity on the lines
    Does the Cardiff to Edinburgh route have any crossover with the London to Birmingham route?

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    Train travel in the uk is the most expensive form of public transport in the world, FACT. It costs more money per mile to travel on trains in the UK than a first class ticket on Concorde was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    It allows for more capacity on the lines

    How does that make it cheaper?

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    Used to go to away games regularly by train in the 60s, me and my lot fancied it again lately. Horrendous prices, not viable at all. I’d love to go by rail again but I fear it’ll never happen. Checked it out for the Liverpool game, £100 return was the cheapest I could find, we opted for National Express at £41 return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Does the Cardiff to Edinburgh route have any crossover with the London to Birmingham route?
    There isn't a Cardiff to Edinburgh route, just different ways to get between the two.

    As things stand, travel to the north is often cheaper going through Manchester as advance train prices are cheaper between here and Manchester than between here and Birmingham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    It allows for more capacity on the lines


    Train lines are a monopoly even with multiple operators only one can operate a journey. It would be expensive as **** still donít be naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Used to go to away games regularly by train in the 60s, me and my lot fancied it again lately. Horrendous prices, not viable at all. I’d love to go by rail again but I fear it’ll never happen. Checked it out for the Liverpool game, £100 return was the cheapest I could find, we opted for National Express at £41 return.
    Trains can be the best way to travel but the cost of them in this country are ridiculous.

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    Flying is cheap as we don’t pay tax on airline fuel. If we paid tax on the fuel it fall into line with other transport. However train travel in the UK is too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Bukowski View Post
    Flying is cheap as we don’t pay tax on airline fuel. If we paid tax on the fuel it fall into line with other transport. However train travel in the UK is too expensive.
    We give train operators billions of taxpayers money which we don't give to airlines.

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    What is the solution? I love a train journey and if it was more affordable would use them 100%. Millions must be lost when people like us see the prices and immediately dismiss it and hit the road, madness really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    What is the solution? I love a train journey and if it was more affordable would use them 100%. Millions must be lost when people like us see the prices and immediately dismiss it and hit the road, madness really.
    Renationalising them is a swear word to some, but we pay billions to train operators when they don't make a profit, then when they do, they keep it. The railways cost the taxpayer more in real terms now than they ever did when they were under public ownership.

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    Airlines don’t pay tax on any of their fuel, so we subsidise in a different way.

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