Riot in Ely

[North Cardiff Blue]

No I'm not confusing anything and there is still a huge question mark as to whether or not it will ever be independent.

Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

[North Cardiff Blue]

Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

Thought so, he's shocking!

[PontBlue]

Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

The shower of shit at the other end of the M4 is making him out to be better than he is but I do think he handled the pandemic really well and has tried his best and I think he genuinely wants what's best for Wales.

[North Cardiff Blue]

The shower of shit at the other end of the M4 is making him out to be better than he is but I do think he handled the pandemic really well and has tried his best and I think he genuinely wants what's best for Wales.

It was a disaster, he killed our economy and wanted to lock down forever, Westminster overreacted too, but he and Sturgeon made it much harder than it should have been.

The country is in a mess because of the overreaction, if they had their way we would be in a much worse state, furlough and lockdown we will be paying the furlough and business loan money back in taxes for the rest of our lives as it is.

[blue sky]

No I'm not confusing anything and there is still a huge question mark as to whether or not it will ever be independent.

Well you said that Wales isnt a ‘sovereign nation’. That isn't a terminology that’s normally used, ‘sovereign state’ is correct. Wales is a nation and a country but not a sovereign state.

[pipster]

Well you said that Wales isnt a ‘sovereign nation’. That isn't a terminology that’s normally used, ‘sovereign state’ is correct. Wales is a nation and a country but not a sovereign state.

Wales is a 'Nation State' according to my Welsh Nat friends. What that means - who knows ..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Labour wants to tax workers more and pay more benefits, so, of course, they will vote for what benefits them most, everyone knows that surely?


If Wales had independence it would be the biggest political disaster ever, they can't manage the little bits of power they have, the NHS is 10 times worse than England, the Roads are a 10mph mess, the airports a car park with no planes, the economy is fecked, they want to tax the few tourists we have more, he hasn't got a clue!

Firstly I don't support Welsh independence

Secondly do YOU think that labour will tax working people more and increase the number on benefits ?

Thirdly do you think most people in Ely are on benefits ?

I don't think you are correct at all

[blue sky]

Firstly I don't support Welsh independence

Secondly do YOU think that labour will tax working people more and increase the number on benefits ?

Thirdly do you think most people in Ely are on benefits ?

I don't think you are correct at all

You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

I voted for the Welsh assembly

I don't think it's doing a very good job but it's better than being totally run from London

I would like proportional representation brought into Westminster but as things stand I think we in South Wales have more in common with Bristol than we do with Brecon or Aberystwyth

The Welsh assembly was brought in by a Labour Government . Without it the independents have a far bigger platform than before . However it seems Wales is not interested in independence and I agree with those voters who reject it .

[North Cardiff Blue]

Firstly I don't support Welsh independence

Secondly do YOU think that labour will tax working people more and increase the number on benefits ?

Thirdly do you think most people in Ely are on benefits ?

I don't think you are correct at all

The extra money has to come from somewhere, so taxes will increase if spending is to increase, of course, they will try and tax the wealthiest significantly more, but that won't work the super-rich will just move money around and use overseas or UK loopholes and good accountants. So yes everyone will have to pay even more if they can get away with it.

Of course not but the vote goes for the demographic of the area and as people have stated, Ely always has been and probably always will be Labour, because they feel it will benefit them more, or do you think it's because they have a pretty rose on the badge?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

What do you think that the people living in London and the South East of England who struggle financially think about Rodger, his father Rupert and Grandfather Charles who vote for anyone in a Conservative rosette ? and have kept things that way for several hundred years ?

It's all a bit predictable eh

[blue matt]

What do you think that the people living in London and the South East of England who struggle financially think about Rodger, his father Rupert and Grandfather Charles who vote for anyone in a Conservative rosette ? and have kept things that way for several hundred years ?

It's all a bit predictable eh

It is, but that still doesnt take away from the statement I made, ( as GLC once said ) you knows its true

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

I am almost certain your parents were conservatives and you have become exactly the same

[blue matt]

I am almost certain your parents were conservatives and you have become exactly the same

Oh yea, the only Tory in Barry

[Dorcus]

Well you said that Wales isnt a ‘sovereign nation’. That isn't a terminology that’s normally used, ‘sovereign state’ is correct. Wales is a nation and a country but not a sovereign state.

It is neither a nation nor a country. If I followed your logic I could call Dorset or Devon a country. Have some decorum please.

[Dorcus]

Does anyone think Mark Drakeford is a good leader???

Well me definitely for one!

[Dorcus]

You moan about south Wales ‘plastics’ supporting the big English teams yet you support the big English government and parliament instead of getting behind your local, Welsh government and parliament.

Why?

It's nothing to do with nationalism; it's all about Socialism v Capitalism. There's plenty of rich capitalists in Wales just like anywhere else: I have nothing in common with them. Wales also voted for Brexit, that's another reason to distance myself.

[Dorcus]

Labour will always control Wales, grandfather Dai voted for them, My dad voted for them, so guess what, I'll vote for them ( which is exactly what I ( and most others ) do in Wales ( apart from voting for PC ) its all a little predictable

Also gives the people a reason to blame " Westminster " for all the woes they have

Your grandfather Dai and your father (what's his name?) sound like eminently sensible people.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Thinly veiled. ‘Every bugger in Ely is a benefit dependent scrounger, up to no good’...........Not so thinly veiled, ‘I’m a ‘I’m a better than you true blue Tory bigot’.

It was right in your face 😂

[Dorcus]

Thinly veiled. ‘Every bugger in Ely is a benefit dependent scrounger, up to no good’...........Not so thinly veiled, ‘I’m a ‘I’m a better than you true blue Tory bigot’.

He's given the game away so many times...he's got a vendetta against Drakeford. So predictable!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Not at all, just stating the principle that people vote for what works best for them and their families, Ely like most of Wales has a demographic that will vote Labour.

No one is better than anyone else, everyone makes their own choices in life and some people are on benefits because they are ill or sick, I didn't say anything bad about that just stated a fact.

I didn't say I was better than anyone or that I was tory.

You on the other hand oh look at me, I'm better than you I'm in Barcelona and Pisa!

You may not have said you were a tory but you most certainly are

Your disdain for anyone who doesn't live in rhiwbina is perfectly clear

[North Cardiff Blue]

You may not have said you were a tory but you most certainly are

Your disdain for anyone who doesn't live in rhiwbina is perfectly clear

Nonsense people can live where they like and vote how they like, it's obvious why most of Wales will always be Labour that's what I was replying to.

I have said before I have voted for many parties and never Farage or hard right parties or Corbyn.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

The extra money has to come from somewhere, so taxes will increase if spending is to increase, of course, they will try and tax the wealthiest significantly more, but that won't work the super-rich will just move money around and use overseas or UK loopholes and good accountants. So yes everyone will have to pay even more if they can get away with it.

Of course not but the vote goes for the demographic of the area and as people have stated, Ely always has been and probably always will be Labour, because they feel it will benefit them more, or do you think it's because they have a pretty rose on the badge?

Where have you found evidence that a labour government is going to increase welfare benefit spending over and above the cost of living ?

Guess which benefit loads of people in North Cardiff get ?

[Dorcus]

It was a disaster, he killed our economy and wanted to lock down forever, Westminster overreacted too, but he and Sturgeon made it much harder than it should have been.

The country is in a mess because of the overreaction, if they had their way we would be in a much worse state, furlough and lockdown we will be paying the furlough and business loan money back in taxes for the rest of our lives as it is.

He was a hero; he saved many lives. In those circumstances the economy rightly takes a back seat.

[Tuerto]

He was a hero; he saved many lives. In those circumstances the economy rightly takes a back seat.

I think that he did a good job in unique and very difficult circumstances.