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Tourism will be affected, so why risk Ł100 fine?
Accommodation has gone up too, triple council tax nonsense the tourist renters will have to pay it.
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...urism--claims/
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/wales-20m...tourism-fears/
Marvelous the welsh tourism economy damaged on a whim.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...speed-27772691
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Oh he’s a Tory as well. As deluded in politics as he is in football.
No doubt you would be up in arms if wasn’t Dripfraud’s policy being implemented.
My MPG is the shittest it’s ever been since I bought the car.
Dripfraud?
Yesterday evening I had to follow some arsehole who barely got up to 16mph. He/she continued at this snail pace when the road changed to 40mph.
There are definitely some people who are doing it deliberately and are enjoying holding people up and getting some fun out of it, then cry later when they are tailgated or overtaken.
I was behind one in Porthcawl yesterday doddering at 15mph in a 30 zone, thankfully six cars overtook him, he may eventually get the message.
maybe you need to get the message 30 is not a target its the maximum allowed
It should be the minimum on a lot of the wider safe 20mph roads around here.
Before the 17th Sept there were plenty of people on various Facebook groups wanting to organise protests, and drive slowly holding up traffic. Maybe this was one of them
Incredibly frustrating for anyone with things to do or running late and understandable that people would get frustrated. Intimidating also for the person following the speed limit who no doubt now has increased tailgating behind them
As said before, my main experience so far is that people largely ignore it. No one was driving over 20 in places where it isnt appropriate anyway (narrow residential streets with cars on both sides, schools, cul-de-sacs etc and the vast majority are ignoring 20mph on the streets where it is safe to do 30.
I guess the average speed has perhaps dropped slightly but it's notable and frustrating when you get behind someone sticking to it, and that is a ridiculous thing to feel as there should be a general consensus on speed limits really
Now it is getting political, easy attack lines for the conservatives to the old red wall, look what happens if you let Labour in and look at Wales and London.
Labour baning the car slowly while Conservatives have extended the date for electric cars, there are clear differences developing.
All for a whim and to be different, yes different by making yourself unpopular and not in tune with the voters.
Rishi Sunak calls Welsh 20mph law 'an attack on motorists'
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...20mph-27808855
The Prime Minister has criticised Wales' new default 20mph speed limit describing it as "an attack on motorists". Rishi Sunak also said it does not reflect "the right values of British people". The 20mph law came into effect on Sunday, September 17 and resulted in a third of 30mph roads being changed to 20mph in Wales.
The Prime Minister has criticised Wales' new default 20mph speed limit describing it as "an attack on motorists". Rishi Sunak also said it does not reflect "the right values of British people".
The 20mph law came into effect on Sunday, September 17 and resulted in a third of 30mph roads being changed to 20mph in Wales. There has been backing to the new speed limit, however there has also been vocal opposition to the changes, with a petition on the Senedd website now exceeding 430,000 signatures - the most any Senedd petition has ever received.
Before the law was brought in, leader of the Commons Penny Mordaunt called it "absolutely insane" and now the Prime Minister has added his voice to the criticism in an ITV Wales interview ahead of the Conservative Party's annual conference.
When asked if he agreed with Penny Mordaunt, Mr Sunak said: "I think imposing a blanket 20 mile-an-hour speed limit on areas is absolutely not right. It doesn't reflect people's priorities. People are dependent on their cars for their day-to-day journeys and these kind of blanket bans aren't the right proportionate approach.
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"But also it comes on top of this other policy not to build any new roads as well. You take these things together, it seems like an attack on motorists and that's rightly received the opposition that it deserves." To get more politics news and analysis, subscribe to our Wales Matters newlsetter here.
Conservatives have been using the term blanket ban after seeing some success in the Uxbridge byelection when they opposed London's low emissions zone. The Welsh branch of the Conservatives has been relentless in its opposition to the policy. This is a stark change to just three years ago when senior members of the Welsh Tories were calling on the Welsh Government to bring in a 20mph limit because it is a "common sense" plan.
Mr Sunak added: "You've seen the opposition from people in Wales to this policy. Look, it's not alone - a Labour mayor in London imposing the ULEZ charge, Ł12.50 on ordinary families when they're just trying to get their kids to school, take them to football practice, go weekly shopping or, you know, get to work.
"Those aren't the right values of the British people who do rely on their cars to get around and we should be supportive of them."
In response to the Prime Minister's comments, a Welsh Government spokesperson said that "the introduction of a default 20mph speed limit is designed to save lives and make our communities safer for everyone, including motorists".
A Welsh Government spokesperson has said: "The introduction of a 20mph speed limit in mainly residential areas is designed to save lives and make our communities safer for everyone, including motorists. It has been thoroughly researched, voted on in the Senedd and received the backing from a majority of Senedd Members. There has been extensive consultation and it has been trialled in communities across Wales."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/sunak-blo...s-20mph-roads/
Sunak to stop councils imposing 20mph roads and make it easier to challenge parking fines in 'pro-driver' package
Of all the awful things happening the world today and we have a 34 page thread, full of angry old men moaning about a law which asks them to drive a little slower and safer. Safer for our elderly and children. Get a feckin life the lot of you.
The one thing I agree with Sunak on (but obviously for different reasons) is that the country isn't anywhere near ready to make the hard and uncomfortable decisions that will be needed in the coming years. We've got an entire entitled generation who have rarely had to sacrifice even an inch and who now see any small change as an attack on their freedom (and it's always 'their' freedom). Policies that say 'you making small changes with X would all add up to helping with Y' are never going to be accepted by these people and while I don't think they're quite the majority, they are often the loudest person in the room.
It's clear that the changes needed won't happen until that lot are gone or are safely drooling in their chairs (not too long to go though based on some of the evidence at least). I dread to think how the youngest generation will look back on this but atleast that's nothing new.
Never agreed more with a post on this board. The country will be a better place in 50 years.
It's clear that the changes needed won't happen until that lot are gone or are safely drooling in their chairs (not too long to go though based on some of the evidence at least). I dread to think how the youngest generation will look back on this but atleast that's nothing new.
Maybe a good olde “World War 3” would sort them out !!!!
Oh come on, all they’re doing is asking for the freedom to do whatever they want……………………..
and bugger the consequences for anyone else.
Mind you this one pretty angry too, he wants anyone over 25 dead.
This is literally the angriest post on here.
Ha ha true
I think support for 20mph is highest amongst the elderly isn't it. So your theory is pretty flawed.
Na, I started writing a full explanation, but deleted it as I realised you wouldn’t understand it, it would have gone over your head.
I doubt it would have. Based on your recent posts I think I have a better grasp of understanding people's views on this matter than you tbh, which seems to be one of stamping feet.
Do you think this may be a rather dramatic escalation to the reality that most just want to see a return to the speed limits that we had in place a couple of weeks ago?
Just a smidge of an escalation?
People got the arse in their hands when the 70mph speed limit was introduced, they won't go back as a bad reaction to limits is nothing new.
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