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    Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    All morning I have laughed at Swansea’s corner. I just cannot stop laughing.

    Then again, if you’re a Cardiff fan, laughing at Swansea is something of a regular pastime, because Swansea as a city are now “The Fathers of Failure”. How come a city that used to be a candidate for capital be relegated to a backwater of beyond? How come what used to pass off as real men in Swansea, now talk and behave like squeaky, effete boys in recent years? These are serious questions that reflect its rapid and ongoing decline.

    Gone are the days of Swansea being the City that saw my great great uncles a hundred years ago be the men they were - owning the biggest tin mine conglomorate in Europe, meeting David Lloyd George for dinner, captaining Swansea RFC in the rugby, racing Ferraris at Le Mans and supporting local chapels and education. These were real men of Swansea. Alpha males. Successful strong men that spoke like men, dressed like men, behaved like men, advanced themselves only to then share their advancements with their community. They could sing in male choirs because they were confident enough in the masculinity to do so. And they had a football team in the city of value and local pride.

    But the “Fathers of Failure” in modern day Swansea just keep continuing to fail. How come now in Swansea, when they aim to “rebuild our city centre” it looks like an unco-ordinated calamity? How come such a “thriving city” ( as a deluded Swansea AM recently claimed!) has some of the highest rates of drug crime, drink-driving, sexual abuse and child poverty in Wales? It is awful. Why is it the most prominent Swansea people in the media are no longer the likes of Catherine Zeta Jones (who escaped to the US), but the Z graders on adverts on GB News shouting “Come to our gold jewellers and sell ewe gold?”, or a man with fake orange tan advertising liposuction, squeaking “I did it because I wanted be on a beach”? (get in the gym and eat less mate). They are a laughing stock.These are low-income, Welsh equivalent of Essex boys: orange, vain and little between the ears. Vanity without the money - paid for by Amigo Loans.

    The city and its people have seemingly lost its raison d’etre. It’s only redeeming feature is the M4 near it, that takes you to the real beaches in Pembrokeshire. Failure is now embedded generationally. The “Fathers of Failure” across Swansea have few stories of success to pass on to their kids, so failure now becomes expected, not the exception. It is now default behaviour in almost every aspect of Swansea life.

    The Swansea football team is now shambolic that it mirrors the failing town in general (sorry, city?). Behaviours expected elsewhere in life seeps into its football team. How come owners that did so well and took it to the top spunked all the cash? How can season after season of £120m capital revenues come to this pitiful state? That is a financial
    condundrum that would have confused Robert Maxwell.

    The “Swansealona” style was a short term facade, faux hype, and has largely blown up in smoke. A team that once had technical and tactical brilliance can no longer take a corner properly. Why did ownership that “loved the club” sell it so easily to asset-stripping nincompoops who have no connection whatsoever? There is now money, no plan, no soul, and no real love for the club. What is on the pitch now mirrors its disaster off the pitch. Freefall and a slow death is now seemingly inevitable. Their pastime, like all their townfolk, is to whinge at all the success that the Big Brother capital Cardiff enjoys. “The Crying Jack” is back.

    As for us, well the capital survives and thrives. The storm has been weathered. In contrast to a fundamentally weak club, with a fundamentally weak fan base like Swansea, a capital city’s natural advantages will always accrue given time. Right now, we have a keeper that rarely knows how to be beaten. In Phillips and Goutas we have a real pair of bastards who take no prisoners. Quick, dancing full backs. True operators in the middle of the mark, and quick wide men. Yeah the central strikers are shoddy but it is a story of collective team effort than individual glory. The finances of the owner have repaired and the manager is finding his feet. It was inevitable that the natural forces of Cardiff would re-establish itself, while the fundamental weanesses of Swansea would equally re-establish itself. The laws of nature can only be bent for so long. The gaping chasm of success between the two cities is now reflected in the football teams. One, an emerging giant. The other in white, a fading force that will consigned to nothing more than a minor footnote of history.

    Having given brief context, history lesson, the “State of the Union” and a comparison of teams, let’s move back to the small matter of the looming fixture. This will be a hiding for Swansea. An unusual one, granted. But a hiding, and it doesn’t taking the reading of the runes to observe the obvious. The Swansea body is old, weak, and declining. So it is only natural that it will be targeted by a feasting predator. That predator is us. Just like Fred West, Cardiff will wrap Swansea up in a carpet and bury them. It will be 3-0. That’ll give “The Crying Jack” from 2003 on Real Radio something new to whinge about. He’ll be back soon. Give him time.

    Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    All morning I have laughed at Swansea’s corner. I just cannot stop laughing.

    Then again, if you’re a Cardiff fan, laughing at Swansea is something of a regular pastime, because Swansea as a city are now “The Fathers of Failure”. How come a city that used to be a candidate for capital be relegated to a backwater of beyond? How come what used to pass off as real men in Swansea, now talk and behave like squeaky, effete boys in recent years? These are serious questions that reflect its rapid and ongoing decline.

    Gone are the days of Swansea being the City that saw my great great uncles a hundred years ago be the men they were - owning the biggest tin mine conglomorate in Europe, meeting David Lloyd George for dinner, captaining Swansea RFC in the rugby, racing Ferraris at Le Mans and supporting local chapels and education. These were real men of Swansea. Alpha males. Successful strong men that spoke like men, dressed like men, behaved like men, advanced themselves only to then share their advancements with their community. They could sing in male choirs because they were confident enough in the masculinity to do so. And they had a football team in the city of value and local pride.

    But the “Fathers of Failure” in modern day Swansea just keep continuing to fail. How come now in Swansea, when they aim to “rebuild our city centre” it looks like an unco-ordinated calamity? How come such a “thriving city” ( as a deluded Swansea AM recently claimed!) has some of the highest rates of drug crime, drink-driving, sexual abuse and child poverty in Wales? It is awful. Why is it the most prominent Swansea people in the media are no longer the likes of Catherine Zeta Jones (who escaped to the US), but the Z graders on adverts on GB News shouting “Come to our gold jewellers and sell ewe gold?”, or a man with fake orange tan advertising liposuction, squeaking “I did it because I wanted be on a beach”? (get in the gym and eat less mate). They are a laughing stock.These are low-income, Welsh equivalent of Essex boys: orange, vain and little between the ears. Vanity without the money - paid for by Amigo Loans.

    The city and its people have seemingly lost its raison d’etre. It’s only redeeming feature is the M4 near it, that takes you to the real beaches in Pembrokeshire. Failure is now embedded generationally. The “Fathers of Failure” across Swansea have few stories of success to pass on to their kids, so failure now becomes expected, not the exception. It is now default behaviour in almost every aspect of Swansea life.

    The Swansea football team is now shambolic that it mirrors the failing town in general (sorry, city?). Behaviours expected elsewhere in life seeps into its football team. How come owners that did so well and took it to the top spunked all the cash? How can season after season of £120m capital revenues come to this pitiful state? That is a financial
    condundrum that would have confused Robert Maxwell.

    The “Swansealona” style was a short term facade, faux hype, and has largely blown up in smoke. A team that once had technical and tactical brilliance can no longer take a corner properly. Why did ownership that “loved the club” sell it so easily to asset-stripping nincompoops who have no connection whatsoever? There is now money, no plan, no soul, and no real love for the club. What is on the pitch now mirrors its disaster off the pitch. Freefall and a slow death is now seemingly inevitable. Their pastime, like all their townfolk, is to whinge at all the success that the Big Brother capital Cardiff enjoys. “The Crying Jack” is back.

    As for us, well the capital survives and thrives. The storm has been weathered. In contrast to a fundamentally weak club, with a fundamentally weak fan base like Swansea, a capital city’s natural advantages will always accrue given time. Right now, we have a keeper that rarely knows how to be beaten. In Phillips and Goutas we have a real pair of bastards who take no prisoners. Quick, dancing full backs. True operators in the middle of the mark, and quick wide men. Yeah the central strikers are shoddy but it is a story of collective team effort than individual glory. The finances of the owner have repaired and the manager is finding his feet. It was inevitable that the natural forces of Cardiff would re-establish itself, while the fundamental weanesses of Swansea would equally re-establish itself. The laws of nature can only be bent for so long. The gaping chasm of success between the two cities is now reflected in the football teams. One, an emerging giant. The other in white, a fading force that will consigned to nothing more than a minor footnote of history.

    Having given brief context, history lesson, the “State of the Union” and a comparison of teams, let’s move back to the small matter of the looming fixture. This will be a hiding for Swansea. An unusual one, granted. But a hiding, and it doesn’t taking the reading of the runes to observe the obvious. The Swansea body is old, weak, and declining. So it is only natural that it will be targeted by a feasting predator. That predator is us. Just like Fred West, Cardiff will wrap Swansea up in a carpet and bury them. It will be 3-0. That’ll give “The Crying Jack” from 2003 on Real Radio something new to whinge about. He’ll be back soon. Give him time.

    Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim.
    Nice post mate, you made Swansea sound a little bit better than it is but the football team is terrible and you are spot on

    They will be up for it, after all it's the Cup Final and the big boys will be in little old Swansea town, but for all their cheating diving, sly little kicks, pinching our players off the ball and dying swan acts all over the pitch at the slightest brush past them, we will score first, quieten the high pitched squeaky spotty smelly fans and win a comfortable two nil win for the doube doube quarupe bed sheet to be unveiled for the cameras to point out so that everyone can laugh at Swansea

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    This board needs shutting down until the games finished.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Luke Williams: Swansea City 'cannot wait' for Cardiff City derby

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68529234

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Love it bring it on!

    https://jackarmy.net/forum/threads/d...-pieces.14679/

    From swansea message board

    Defending set pieces

    I make that the 4th game in a row where we've conceded directly from one.

    All preventable.

    Pathetic.

    Scum next week who score plenty from them.


    From then on everyone agrees they are terrible at defending corners and dead ball free kicks, Turnball and Wintle should be perfecting them and have great fun

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Love it bring it on!

    https://jackarmy.net/forum/threads/d...-pieces.14679/

    From swansea message board

    Defending set pieces

    I make that the 4th game in a row where we've conceded directly from one.

    All preventable.

    Pathetic.

    Scum next week who score plenty from them.


    From then on everyone agrees they are terrible at defending corners and dead ball free kicks, Turnball and Wintle should be perfecting them and have great fun
    Nice find, and a funny read. Look at the sheer array of problems they have. Incredible. They have squeaked that three-game run before Bristol, by fannying around against junk opposition. Only a minority of their fans are clinging onto that like a comfort blanket.

    If you look at the general statistics between Cardiff v Swansea the average Joe would conclude a likely close game. The set pieces data they are talking about 1 data point indicates a super-soft underbelly, and against our very big team it is a huge issue. But looking at the deeper statistics, the set piece defending of Swansea is just 1of 6 key items that indicate to me that their team is in big, big trouble. I think that Cardiff ripping them apart kick starts a new downturn of form and results that will send them hurtling into a relegation fight.

    The Swansea fanbase’ confidence is absolutely shot to pieces. That plays into their crowd support and lack of atmosphere, that their players will feed off.

    I don’t blame Luke Williams for trying to paint us as a “different game”, as he seems like a decent guy just trying to do his job. I have a quiet respect for him. But in doing his job, he is just putting on a brave face. Lipstick on a pig. Finger in the dyke. Because the data I have for Swansea’s recent performances, including their three wins, shows a rapid deterioration in some key areas that often have accuracy in predicting wins from losses. If I can see it, then Luke definitely sees the same data from Opta.

    Luke Williams must know that his team are surely f*cked, rapidly running out of capacity, and they are likely to sink into a slow, painful, struggle for survival.

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    A game away to Swansea to win 5 games in a row and put ourselves 2 points off the playoffs going into the international break?

    Yeah we're definitely going to lose.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    A game away to Swansea to win 5 games in a row and put ourselves 2 points off the playoffs going into the international break?

    Yeah we're definitely going to lose.
    Imagine sending them spiralling towards the relegation zone, a nice 3 niller would do, just like they did here last year…..

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    i reckon we should win by 12-0 There! Gods of thunder and shite , it's in your hands

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    Wonder if they'll manage to sell out before Saturday , can't even shift 18,000 home tickets as it stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad View Post
    Wonder if they'll manage to sell out before Saturday , can't even shift 18,000 home tickets as it stands.
    how many have they sold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    how many have they sold?
    Couple of hundred left apparently.

    Can remember sold out signs going up weeks in advance previously.

    £34 a ticket mind, same as they're robbing our fans, so not a huge shock.

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    Default position. Expect to lose, anything else is a bonus.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Default position. Expect to lose, anything else is a bonus.

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    Always risky when Hyperbole is first on the team sheet.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Erol Bulut will become the first Cardiff City Manager to take charge of the team for both South Wales Derby games in the same season since Dave Jones in 2011.

    Just read that, is that correct Eric?

    Crazy if true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Erol Bulut will become the first Cardiff City Manager to take charge of the team for both South Wales Derby games in the same season since Dave Jones in 2011.

    Just read that, is that correct Eric?

    Crazy if true!
    Off the top of my head

    Malky and ole
    Warnock and Harris
    Harris and McCarthy
    McCarthy and Morrison
    Hudson and lamouche

    But not sure they are all correct or in full - may have missed some

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep View Post
    Off the top of my head

    Malky and ole
    Warnock and Harris
    Harris and McCarthy
    McCarthy and Morrison
    Hudson and lamouche

    But not sure they are all correct or in full - may have missed some
    Thats crazy, we have to stick with Bulut and get some stability and a medium term plan at least!

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    All morning I have laughed at Swansea’s corner. I just cannot stop laughing.

    Then again, if you’re a Cardiff fan, laughing at Swansea is something of a regular pastime, because Swansea as a city are now “The Fathers of Failure”. How come a city that used to be a candidate for capital be relegated to a backwater of beyond? How come what used to pass off as real men in Swansea, now talk and behave like squeaky, effete boys in recent years? These are serious questions that reflect its rapid and ongoing decline.

    Gone are the days of Swansea being the City that saw my great great uncles a hundred years ago be the men they were - owning the biggest tin mine conglomorate in Europe, meeting David Lloyd George for dinner, captaining Swansea RFC in the rugby, racing Ferraris at Le Mans and supporting local chapels and education. These were real men of Swansea. Alpha males. Successful strong men that spoke like men, dressed like men, behaved like men, advanced themselves only to then share their advancements with their community. They could sing in male choirs because they were confident enough in the masculinity to do so. And they had a football team in the city of value and local pride.

    But the “Fathers of Failure” in modern day Swansea just keep continuing to fail. How come now in Swansea, when they aim to “rebuild our city centre” it looks like an unco-ordinated calamity? How come such a “thriving city” ( as a deluded Swansea AM recently claimed!) has some of the highest rates of drug crime, drink-driving, sexual abuse and child poverty in Wales? It is awful. Why is it the most prominent Swansea people in the media are no longer the likes of Catherine Zeta Jones (who escaped to the US), but the Z graders on adverts on GB News shouting “Come to our gold jewellers and sell ewe gold?”, or a man with fake orange tan advertising liposuction, squeaking “I did it because I wanted be on a beach”? (get in the gym and eat less mate). They are a laughing stock.These are low-income, Welsh equivalent of Essex boys: orange, vain and little between the ears. Vanity without the money - paid for by Amigo Loans.

    The city and its people have seemingly lost its raison d’etre. It’s only redeeming feature is the M4 near it, that takes you to the real beaches in Pembrokeshire. Failure is now embedded generationally. The “Fathers of Failure” across Swansea have few stories of success to pass on to their kids, so failure now becomes expected, not the exception. It is now default behaviour in almost every aspect of Swansea life.

    The Swansea football team is now shambolic that it mirrors the failing town in general (sorry, city?). Behaviours expected elsewhere in life seeps into its football team. How come owners that did so well and took it to the top spunked all the cash? How can season after season of £120m capital revenues come to this pitiful state? That is a financial
    condundrum that would have confused Robert Maxwell.

    The “Swansealona” style was a short term facade, faux hype, and has largely blown up in smoke. A team that once had technical and tactical brilliance can no longer take a corner properly. Why did ownership that “loved the club” sell it so easily to asset-stripping nincompoops who have no connection whatsoever? There is now money, no plan, no soul, and no real love for the club. What is on the pitch now mirrors its disaster off the pitch. Freefall and a slow death is now seemingly inevitable. Their pastime, like all their townfolk, is to whinge at all the success that the Big Brother capital Cardiff enjoys. “The Crying Jack” is back.

    As for us, well the capital survives and thrives. The storm has been weathered. In contrast to a fundamentally weak club, with a fundamentally weak fan base like Swansea, a capital city’s natural advantages will always accrue given time. Right now, we have a keeper that rarely knows how to be beaten. In Phillips and Goutas we have a real pair of bastards who take no prisoners. Quick, dancing full backs. True operators in the middle of the mark, and quick wide men. Yeah the central strikers are shoddy but it is a story of collective team effort than individual glory. The finances of the owner have repaired and the manager is finding his feet. It was inevitable that the natural forces of Cardiff would re-establish itself, while the fundamental weanesses of Swansea would equally re-establish itself. The laws of nature can only be bent for so long. The gaping chasm of success between the two cities is now reflected in the football teams. One, an emerging giant. The other in white, a fading force that will consigned to nothing more than a minor footnote of history.

    Having given brief context, history lesson, the “State of the Union” and a comparison of teams, let’s move back to the small matter of the looming fixture. This will be a hiding for Swansea. An unusual one, granted. But a hiding, and it doesn’t taking the reading of the runes to observe the obvious. The Swansea body is old, weak, and declining. So it is only natural that it will be targeted by a feasting predator. That predator is us. Just like Fred West, Cardiff will wrap Swansea up in a carpet and bury them. It will be 3-0. That’ll give “The Crying Jack” from 2003 on Real Radio something new to whinge about. He’ll be back soon. Give him time.

    Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim.
    "Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim."


    Very grim indeed. Normal service has resumed.

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by SgorioFruit View Post
    "Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim."


    Very grim indeed. Normal service has resumed.
    One win, you are still below us and can't raise your game when you are not playing your Capital City, normal service had already resumed

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    One win, you are still below us and can't raise your game when you are not playing your Capital City, normal service had already resumed
    have a great day

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    Re: Prediction v Swansea: “Fathers of Failure” to be wrapped up like Fred West

    Quote Originally Posted by SgorioFruit View Post
    have a great day
    will do enjoy your World Cup Final Win

    Then back to your relegation battle

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    A game away to Swansea to win 5 games in a row and put ourselves 2 points off the playoffs going into the international break?

    Yeah we're definitely going to lose.
    Should have listened to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgorioFruit View Post
    "Moreover, it will be a victory that defines the new era ahead. A changing of the guard. But a restoring of the natural order. The “Fathers of Failure” in Swansea need to understand that, process it, and more importantly, get used to it. It is going to be grim."


    Very grim indeed. Normal service has resumed.
    Well look who popped back eh? Ello luv, what made you return after so long, bin so quiet you have….

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