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Pigs in the trough.
A no story she had the same in Cardiff and every city she played in.
Tory press crap again.
such a nothing story, some free concert tickets, worth a couple of hundred quid?
meanwhile we still haven't got to the bottom of where all the billions of pounds the Tories wasted during the COVID pandemic ended up going
That's the cover up of the centuryOriginally Posted by Rjk
Good point ,but many were happy to accept Track & Trace and the needless closure of businesses and fitness centres without question whilst those who merely wanted further clarification were called Conspiracy Theorists
And here we go again.
no, many people were questioning why track and trace cost so much, and never really worked, especially when other countries were able to introduce it a lot more quickly and cheaply. I'm sure you can find posts on this site going back to the time.
Mortgage rates going up
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93yenv5r74o
Wasn't so long ago higher mortgages were a "Tory penalty"
https://labourlist.org/2023/06/mortg...nterest-rates/
Its almost as if that wasn't true.
Can you tell me where in that story it says mortgage rates will go up as you state with your "mortgage rates going up" claim. What I see is use of the word "could" and the words "are predicted" which is not quite the same thing Yes, one building society is putting its rates up, but you'd have been spitting feathers if I'd come on here during the last Government's time in office and said inflation's going up because I just paid 5p more for a tin of beans in my local Tescos.
Economy growing
GDP up
Starmer The Warrior
I can't stand the man but I'm sure many will see this as a positive step.
Everybody needs a hero
I don't understand why he won't pretend that it never happened, just like everybody else does.
From “New Labour scandal” about Taylor Swift tickets to yet another COVID thread when a different party was in GovernmentI don't understand why he won't pretend that it never happened, just like everybody else does.
So all you lot were after was “further clarification” was it.
I was actually looking for the thread because I was critical of the governments choices around the app at the time (which they later changed). I just remember a passionate discussion, no memory of being called a conspiracy nut or that happening to anybody.
Like everything else, track and trace was just a political football.
People were talking absolute monumental bollocks about this topic.
https://fullfact.org/online/37-billi...race-app-scam/
Madness.
The amount of times that I would hear people go on about the government spaffing "£37bn on an app". Wound me up so much, esp when they accuse others of believing, spreading conspiracy theories etc!
I'm very happy to criticise large parts of our response to COVID but that doesn't justify total misinformation
Yes,people were so quick to jump on this figure and yet so slow to acknowledge when it became apparent it was garbage.
This by the way is not a defence of the govt before some like Sludge or Dorcus make any snide remarks.
I fully agree with your final paragraph and that both National and Welsh governments made many mistakes.
As did governments throughout the world.
The claim of a £37 billion spend was first made in 2020, so it’s a little disingenuous to say people who were pointing this out at the time were wrong because of figures for the 20/21 financial year - according to your link, £37 billion was allocated to Track and Trace over a two year period and the Government of the time were promoting their scheme for months (until they dropped it like a hot potato) almost at the expense of the local Government schemes already in place (don’t forget the jobs for the girls element at play from Johnson either).
I note Labour was fully committed to T and T and the time and were fully behind all the other government initiatives around CONVID, including locking down harder and longer, ( similar to some posters in here ) when most normals were waking up and realising it was a scam and and a money grab.
Pesky ConsPIracy TheoRISts
So yes Bob and others I will keep bringing it up as we are now seeing the results of these needless Diktats and will continue to do so for years.
Can you explain what relevancy that has to what I posted?I note Labour was fully committed to T and T and the time and were fully behind all the other government initiatives around CONVID, including locking down harder and longer, ( similar to some posters in here ) when most normals were waking up and realising it was a scam and and a money grab.
Pesky ConsPIracy TheoRISts
So yes Bob and others I will keep bringing it up as we are now seeing the results of these needless Diktats and will continue to do so for years.
Sure, but people were making the claim in late 2022 too.
Here is Labour MP Karl Turner doing it. He was only £36.965bn out.
https://fullfact.org/health/karl-tur...est-trace-app/
£35 million is also a huge amount for an app with limited functionality like the test and trace app.
Many of my projects involve software in a healthcare setting and several of them involving apps - none have got anywhere near that kind of expense. Although timescales are probably a factor.
My main gripe is after all that money spent it never really worked. I had notifications that I'd been in contact with someone 2 weeks after it happened, so after the quarantine period had already ended.
More incompetence probably than anything else.
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