Reply With QuoteWhat about the cost of living making everybody skint?
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The option of watching mid-week and early Saturday fixtures being televised live on Sky has clearly led to a drop in attendances for most EFL clubs.
With the exception of Leeds and a few others chasing promotion the sad backdrop of so many empty seats in the majority of stadiums is only going to increase.
The revenue lost through non-ST holders opting for an armchair rather than paying for a ticket, travelling to the ground, buying refreshments etc is not going to be matched by TV revenues shared by clubs.
Official attendances are inflated due to many season ticket holders choosing not to turn up, so an analysis of actual attendances is impossible.
Regardless of entertainment 'value' in Cardiff's case, would a few extra thousand supporters have had a more positive effect on results?
The early kick-offs on a weekend will prevent many from choosing to attend due to work or other family commitments such as youth football.
Unsure whether Cardiff or any club in the championship have had the majority of their home fixtures kicking off on a Saturday at 3pm ... although I could be wrong.
What about the cost of living making everybody skint?
Strictly Come Dancing has an audience of millions. The couple of hundred in the studio are there just for effect. That's how the TV companies view those who actually watch matches in person..Originally Posted by Forest Green Bluebird
Next season will probably see attendances affected by this more than this season. There's probably loads of season tickets holders cheesed off at the number of games moved.
The sadest thing Tuesday night was how sparse the family stand was as that represents the future.
There's been four games played at home on a Saturday at 3 o' clock.
Should've been five but the Watford game was postponed.
I've said it before but for me personally, 12:30s don't work and neither do Sunday games.
I personally struggle to afford to go to as many games as I used to.
I did a rough count & reckon there was around 150 in there in total.
Yes, this will have its effect. However the excess of Sky coverage and kick-off time change will put off fans from attending regardless of the cost of living crisis.
I don't think clubs have a choice about TV schedules.
2/3rds of last season’s Championship teams have lower attendances this year.
On average attendances are down by over 1000 in the division.
I haven't had a season ticket since covid and now pick and choose a few games a season. Personal circumstances are the main reason, but the lack of regular Saturday 3pm games is also a big reason. There's too much messing about with the weekend fixtures to incentivise me to get another season ticket any time soon. Being able to watch the midweek matches probably affects others more than me, but yes, compared to previous seasons, the sparsely populated family stand should concern the club.
This is interesting, I hadn’t heard this before.
Soon, as season ticket sales dwindle, the attendances being announced for matches will get far closer to the actual number of people in the stadiums.
Expect more drops in those figures, and more clubs starting to panic.
I’m a lunatic case, I go to every away game, if my health is ok, yet I can’t remember the last home game I went to !!!!!
It’s mostly because I don’t enjoy the pre-match at home games as much as the camaraderie on the coach at away games !!!
Daft init ?
And I’ve got 2 season tickets, used to be 9 across the family !
Are you sure about this? If so, where did you obtain the figures?
Night games are always going to be less full in the family stand - If I take my kids to a game it's usually gone 11 by the time I get home - too late for a school night.
that's definitely the case in the premier league, I think its also true for the championship also from memory - I'll have a look at the accounts later if I remember and that should clear it up.
What's true?
ok my curiosity got the better of me -
in the season 23-24 - gate receipts + match day income came to about Ł6m
TV deals and other centralised sponsorships - Ł10.4m
Our own sponsorship deals - Ł6.5 million.
So if we were filling the ground every week it'd probably be getting close to the same impact as the TV deals (assuming we did so without slashing prices).
An extra Ł4-5 million in practice would probably mean one more dodgy signing though
so where were all the empty seats for an early kick off against swansea over the seasons ?
I think people are right that next season will be the big test. I really don't think the number of 12.30 games help at all. It's not necessarily a pig of a time if you had to pop to the doctors or whatever, but football takes hours out of the day.
Putting it at 12.30 essentially takes the whole day out. You can't really go for brunch with family, or take the kids to youth football, or go food shopping in the morning etc and still go to the football in the afternoon. Depending on where you live you are perhaps out the house from 11 til 4. And you get a lesser atmosphere, less away fans and generally less entertainment for that too.
Something people need to bear in mind when considering this situation is that the clubs voted in favour of it unanimously:
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...hes-per-season
It's a bit like VAR in that respect. That Premier League clubs (which included City at the time) also voted in favour of that unanimously.
Having a shit team has a far bigger effect than ko times. Sky TV or no Sky TV.
When you exclude teams affected by promotion or relegation the numbers are:
12/18 teams in the Championship, 11/17 teams in League One, 11/18 teams in League Two seeing decreased attendances.
We've just been through an inflation crisis where most people have felt their personal finances significantly squeezed, so it isn't surprising that leisure events will suffer.
I notice people have been commenting about the low crowds at the Cheltenham race meetings this week
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