Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[CCFCC3PO]

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Arguably, this response is trolling. But, I take your lack of words as a lack of an argument. I'll let the casual reader decide on how much weight they'd want to put on your observations which, to put it mildly, seem to be based on you actually reading a newspaper (real or online) and getting a story that confirms your own bias.

[CCFCC3PO]

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So, no link?

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"The retired teacher saw Cummins in Barnard Castle whilst he was'isolating' in Durham" - where in Durham was he "isolating" that makes this is an issue?

When did he pick his daughter up from Berkshire? Was it before or after CummingsGate and the easing of lockdown in England?

Asking for a friend.

apparently it was either just before or just after the ban on driving distances was relaxed but form what I saw he wasn't sure, and he definitely contacted and traveled with a person who was isolating at another place and took them into his family which risked possibly infecting either his family or the people in the house he went to to collect her, which despite when he did it was still contrary to the lockdown requirements. So basically he took the risk of contaminating the people in the house in Berkshire or of his daughter contaminating his family in Durham.
As I have now said 3 times, it doesn't make what Cummins did right but it makes you doubt people when they say things, particularly when its held and altered by the media. That is the main point, that the media spin things so you cannot take anything on face value.

[CCFCC3PO]

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apparently it was either just before or just after the ban on driving distances was relaxed but form what I saw he wasn't sure, and he definitely contacted and traveled with a person who was isolating at another place and took them into his family which risked possibly infecting either his family or the people in the house he went to to collect her, which despite when he did it was still contrary to the lockdown requirements. So basically he took the risk of contaminating the people in the house in Berkshire or of his daughter contaminating his family in Durham.
As I have now said 3 times, it doesn't make what Cummins did right but it makes you doubt people when they say things, particularly when its held and altered by the media. That is the main point, that the media spin things so you cannot take anything on face value.

But you don't read the media. You've said this.

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But you don't read the media. You've said this.

[CCFCC3PO]

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I know you struggle with facts, that is fine. I am just reminding any readers that you have an awful lot of opinions on something that you claim you don't even read.

Either you are a liar (in that you do read newspapers "real or online")
Or, you have an anti-media agenda and are cherry-picking examples to back up your anti-media sentiments and biases.

I can't really see it being anything other than those two things at present.

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I know you struggle with facts, that is fine. I am just reminding any readers that you have an awful lot of opinions on something that you claim you don't even read.

Either you are a liar (in that you do read newspapers "real or online")
Or, you have an anti-media agenda and are cherry-picking examples to back up your anti-media sentiments and biases.

I can't really see it being anything other than those two things at present.

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[Heisenberg]

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apparently it was either just before or just after the ban on driving distances was relaxed but form what I saw he wasn't sure, and he definitely contacted and traveled with a person who was isolating at another place and took them into his family which risked possibly infecting either his family or the people in the house he went to to collect her, which despite when he did it was still contrary to the lockdown requirements. So basically he took the risk of contaminating the people in the house in Berkshire or of his daughter contaminating his family in Durham.
As I have now said 3 times, it doesn't make what Cummins did right but it makes you doubt people when they say things, particularly when its held and altered by the media. That is the main point, that the media spin things so you cannot take anything on face value.

I'm asking you these questions because you are taking the medias word for it on how they're reporting the "facts" yet questioned everything else preceding the news today.

You have said yourself that the gentleman in question "saw Cummins in Barnard Castle whilst he was'isolating' in Durham" - I want to know how you know he was isolating in Durham as if you're going to keep saying that the media twist everything, then surely you can see that this could be twisted? Does he even live in Durham?

[CCFCC3PO]

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I'm asking you these questions because you are taking the medias word for it on how they're reporting the "facts" yet questioned everything else preceding the news today.

You have said yourself that the gentleman in question "saw Cummins in Barnard Castle whilst he was'isolating' in Durham" - I want to know how you know he was isolating in Durham as if you're going to keep saying that the media twist everything, then surely you can see that this could be twisted? Does he even live in Durham?

I guess.

[CCFCC3PO]

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So you are a liar with an anti-media agenda. Thanks for confirming.

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I'm asking you these questions because you are taking the medias word for it on how they're reporting the "facts" yet questioned everything else preceding the news today.

You have said yourself that the gentleman in question "saw Cummins in Barnard Castle whilst he was'isolating' in Durham" - I want to know how you know he was isolating in Durham as if you're going to keep saying that the media twist everything, then surely you can see that this could be twisted? Does he even live in Durham?

I said Cummins was isolating in Durham (County) not the man who saw him, it never occurred to me that the chap didn't live local in Barnard Castle (Co Durham) and was in his local area when he saw Cummins. But he did admit that he drove 250 miles to collect his daughter from Ascot, so if he doesn't live in Durham its must be pretty close if it was that direction.

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So you are a liar with an anti-media agenda. Thanks for confirming.

and you're a multi identity troll.

[CCFCC3PO]

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and you're a multi identity troll.

And, I suppose on the 7th time of me asking, you can back that up with something factual - right?

But, with your reputation as a liar with an anti-media agenda I can't say I have much hope of you providing proof to back up any claims you make. You have dismally failed again tonight.

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And, I suppose on the 7th time of me asking, you can back that up with something factual - right?

But, with your reputation as a liar with an anti-media agenda I can't say I have much hope of you providing proof to back up any claims you make. You have dismally failed again tonight.

[Heisenberg]

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I said Cummins was isolating in Durham (County) not the man who saw him, it never occurred to me that the chap didn't live local in Barnard Castle (Co Durham) and was in his local area when he saw Cummins. But he did admit that he drove 250 miles to collect his daughter from Ascot, so if he doesn't live in Durham its must be pretty close if it was that direction.

Gotcha. The way you wrote it made it look like you were talking about the witness. My bad

I'm still unsure as to why you think the media twisted the Cummings story though - whether the "retired teacher" broke the rules or not is irrelevant. His version of events that he told The Sun/The Guardian turned out to be 100% true - as Cummings admitted.

The only... I repeat only thing that was inaccurate in all of the reporting was the 'second trip' that Cummings supposedly made and it was never printed as fact.

The Mail are now spinning it as though it's all lies and the "retired teacher" cannot be a good witness because of irrelevant facts, which you seem to be projecting too - but that would mean that you're taken in by their spin of it, which you say you're sceptical of. I'm getting dizzy now.