Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
I would suggest in future that you properly read the post I made and if you want to project something from it, then endorse far less inflammatory accusations than accusing someone of supporting slavery. Even for this football forum, where we routinely get called fascists for not agreeing with people, it was a total overeach.

It also implied that I didn't think genocide should be illegal. I do. The question was whether they are committing genocide and I take a not unreasonable position of devolving that to people who can legally define it. You may disagree, but it's not unreasonable. I also explained that I think a key factor in the horrors is the disproportionate power of the two militaries in question, which is also true.

Thank you for clarifying however.
The crime of genocide is already legally defined.

Most if not all posters on here who have said Israel is committing genocide have referred to the legal definition.

Whether the International Criminal Court finally (in another 2 years or so according to the experts) confirms that view is a different thing. The ICJ has set a very high evidential bar for itself in previous judgements, and has got itself into a real tangle where it will not confirm genocide has been carried out if there are other motives for the genocidal actions - including military action or land grabs!

The ICJ has never yet ruled against any country for genocide - so far it has only determined that the charge of genocide against Israel is 'plausible'. That may change later this year when it rules on Myanmar's genocidal expulsion of the Rohingya, where it may be able to set a more rational precedent and accept genocide against a people can take place alongside other aims or intentions. Even if it doesn't get itself out of a hole of its own making it will at least ensure there is a full record of Israel's objectives and actions in Gaza (if not elsewhere in Palestine).

Either way Israel has totally ignored the interim judgements of the ICJ - backed 100% by the USA.

It will ignore any final judgement when that comes in a few years. None of that will affect the genocide underway in Palestine. It doesn't provide any more defence to the Palestinian people and the delay doesn't give Israel any more cover than it already has from the USA and its other hard core apologists.