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There is no greater turn off in politics than listening to politicians spout to one ,what to or not do. In the case of the right sided politicians ,you have loons like Farage , Boris , Gove ,William Rees - Mogg , John Redwood , who in their right mind would be guided by their advise ?? when its plain to see thye are suing this as an internal power struggle within the Tory party , and bugger all to do with our best interest , Brexit is just the vehicle .
Just imagine out of Europe , Boris as PM , Gove as his deputy , Redwood as foreign Secretary and Mogg as the Chancellor, and with the the current loopy ( 70's style ) left as the effective opposition . Bloody hell save us all , give me a crap Europe union over any of the above, at least it keeps a tight reign on them .
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I'm an undecided at the moment, in fact I'm about 70% in 25% out and I'd be about 50/50 if it wasn't for all the Brexit nutters. Other than Boris, who at least can crack a joke, there's no one I would want to have a pint with or share a lift/meal/conversation etc, they're all nut jobs.
There are lots of nut jobs on the "in" side too but not all as certifiable as The Brexit lot
Don't forget we were much much better off before we joined the Common Market.......oh! Sick man of Europe anybody?
As you say this is all about the bloody Tory party and the right wing hangers and floggers trying to take control. Just look at the names you mentioned. They are a repellant bunch. You missed off one of the worst. That Kent Ian Duncan Smith.
This is correct, I choose not to trust those loons who approved and sanctioned war and the mass killings, resulting in a Europe we have now, joining the EU was never marketed about acts of agression against countries who have heads of state not approved!. joining the EU or common market as it was known at the time was about common policies and not politics, we'll not be allowed to leave anyway irrespective of the vote.
I have been asking my customers over the last 2 weeks
its been interesting to say the least
If you read the posts on here you would be sensible to think that its not worth bothering to vote if you want " out " as the " in " vote is way ahead, from speaking to my customers, it not so clear cut, now these range in a broad spread, from 1 mill plus houses to small 2 bed estate houses
When I look at those individuals you list, I think there's no way I'm going to put myself on the same side as that lot. However, the remain campaign started very poorly and has got worse, with it's daily pronouncements on what will go wrong with the country if we vote to leave (I'm just waiting for the plague of locusts and the slaying of first born sons!). If leaving the EU was really as disastrous as call me Dave, Gideon etc. keep on telling us it is, surely even the loons you list would realise it?
I believe there are millions like me in this country who feel completely let down by the campaign so far. I've my own vague gut instinct to go on and the campaign has done nothing whatsoever to change it - it's a huge decision we've got to make in just over three weeks time and yet the two sides have been of no help whatsoever, it's been like preparing for a philosophy exam by watching endless Tom and Jerry cartoons.
I havent heard one world renowned financial guru say anything other than remain. Also I cant see any reason whatsoever that they have any motivation to influence the result other than genuine belief. On the other hand the leave camp are pursuing their own ambitions!
Bookies seem to have it sorted? http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/...bership-result
I'm probably voting in.
But I am wondering that if well be so much worse off if we leave, why do the French and German governments care so much.
The Remain camp have given facts and figures and all the Leave camp have done is shout nonsense and scream about immigration
Are there actually people out there who're voting on whether to stay in the EU for another generation or two, based on who's in the band of relatively influential/popular 'loons' in 2016?
Not at all , I have decided for a safety first vote, with the world markets still uncertain . My point was, I find it very difficult to be persuaded by the no campaigns reasoning which do appear to flow from the dated right wing lunatic fringe ,who base their argruments on prejudices views, rather than that of substance.