Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird since 1948 View Post
Uh "what a nasty woman"? Clinton gave as good as she got in that respect.

The traditional left don't need to be nastier they need to stop taking their core working class vote for granted. Hilary ignored Wisconsin and Michigan, states that had voted Dem since the 80s. She barely visited them and then had the gall to post about the "blue wall" around the great lakes propelling her to victory.

This is not a recent trend, remember the North elected two BNP MEPs in 2009, the alarm bells for labour should have been ringing then. Instead they stuck their heads further in the sand and told people that immigration is a wonderful thing to be celebrate. The Jocks deserted Labour and now they are dead in Scotland, same will occur in Wales and the North I am sure. Brexit and Trump is not a recent trend, working class people left behind by globalisation are turning to alternatives.
I don't think she did give anywhere near as much back. Your point about the working class being left behind is an interesting one. Are they? Clinton won more of the popular vote than Trump amongst the poorest. Trump won more of the popular vote than Clinton amongst the most affluent.
I think the white male blue collar vote was strongly fuelled and anti immigration. So globalisation has played a part.