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This runner up thing sounds like it should be a specialist subject on mastermind.
No it doesn't but would hope 20 points would be enough. Anything less than 20 points and we are really struggling for a play off place. Why not just have eight bloody groups to avoid this arbitrary process?
My biggest concern is Georgia away. We need our best midfield combo for that game.
Yes should have 8 groups and cut 6 teams out. Lowest 12 teams should have to play a preliminary play off. The likes of Gibraltar serve no purpose.
Now a team who has gone through an 18 month qualifying campaign, finishing 2nd, won't even get rewarded with a play off game for their efforts.
Even with 9 groups of make the 8th and 9th worst runner up play off in a one off game at the home of 8th worst to make up the last play off spot.
http://www.worldfootball.net/table_c...-quali-europa/
I've got it like this:
Wales 20 (+11)
Serbia 20 (+10)
Ireland 17
Austria 15
Georgia 4
Moldova 2